Dating European women over American women

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Since: Sep 07

Fort Lauderdale, FL.

#1 May 6, 2008
- I am not trying to offend anybody with this posting and in case I do I apologize -

Through my company, I haven lucky to have had the opportunity to live in different corners of the world and experience many different cultures. Getting to see multiple cultures ads more knowledge but also sometimes makes you ask questions.

While living in Europe I was lucky enough to have meet a very smart and gorgeous women, we dated for a few years when I asked her to marry me. After getting married I was relocated back to the US and my company took care of the paperwork and she moved with me.

One of the things that I can say happened personally to me and to some other co-workers is that we started preferring dating European women and no longer even consider dating American women.

Trying to figure out the cultural difference's between European and American womens to try to figure out "Why?", why we don't date American women. So we decided to post a topic to find out more.

Here is a comparison of what we have come up with, again this are just general and some of them might be a stereotype. But that is why we want to discuss them here.

- Most European women are very Independent, they want to have some life outside of the relationship. American women want to do everything as a couple.

- Most European women prefer to be financially responsible, like they would rather pay for their own dinner when in the US, its automatically expected that guys have to buy gifts and pay for dinner.

- European women prefer to be healthy, have very active lifestyle. Going to the gym, biking and walking is the thing to do. I am not saying that all American women are not into a healthy lifestyle but its certainly a small percentage in comparison. Unfortunately for some of my friends who married American women once they got married they gained weight... blaming it on childbirth and things like that when I can say for a fact from my and my friends European wifes that after child birth after some months they where back to their previous weight without even trying but just because of their healthy lifestyle.

- In Europe, its common for couples to live together and of course have sex before they are married, I think thats great because you get to know what it is to marry someone, no surprises. But I noticed in America that is a taboo specially around Christian's who look down at those who live together or are sexually active with their loved ones before they are married. How can someone make a lifetime commitment before knowing what they are getting into.

The guys I work with have discussed this greatly, which I think its great to know people I can be that comfortable with the only negative thing that has come out of it is that we have discussed this with other's at work who have divorced their American Wife and re-married European. I don't think thats cool but they are happier now.

All I can say is that I am madly in love with my wife, my wife means everything to me.

Please, I am curious to discuss this subject here on Topix.

“Proud that Obama won”

Since: Dec 07

Australia & Texas

#2 May 6, 2008
I am an American women living in Sydney, Australia.

Thank you for posting your comment, I don't agree 100% with everything you wrote but I agree with almost all of it.

I was born in Texas, but I have lived in London, UK and now live in Sydney, Australia.

Before I left the US the items that you mentioned above where the norm... I can say that I did those things as well but was not really by choice, it was culture, it was what was expected from a women in the US.

Now that I have left the US I am free to think my own way, I am free to be my self instead of following a culture based on very old believes that are still the norm and the expectation.

A few years ago I might have taken this comment as an insult... but I know better.

I will keep an eye on this topic, I am also curious to know.
hami

AOL

#4 Jun 20, 2008
The better question is why there are so many eastern european women(specially,russian, ukrain,polish) so badly are looking for man from different country like italy, western country, middleastern ,you just name it.

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Since: Feb 09

Moskow

#5 Mar 5, 2009
Hami,so MANY? There aren't THAT many Eastern European women who want to marry Italian men or whatever,or Middle Eastern men or whatever.Not everyone here wants to get married in the first place anyway.So,don't take us with this bullcrap about Eastern European women.That's NOT the majority! Like it or not,but i'll have to dissapoint you:We are just like the Wstern women,with strong values,independent and not gold-diggers.Except,let's say,we're more open-minded and respectful.

I'm sick of this stupid,annoying stereotype of the Eastern European woman being a gold-digger and a doormat looking for Western men.That's just LAME. That's a minority of women we're talking about.And why the hell is it ok for a U.S. chick to seek out men from overseas and to want them,and it's so "odd" and "wrong" and,you get all suspicious and b*tchy about the European women who actually like overseas men because they simply find them more attractive,appealing?
So many hypocrites,whoa!Talking about ignorance and arrogance and having two faces.

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Jennessy

Richlands, VA

#6 Mar 8, 2009
frankhou77 wrote:
- I am not trying to offend anybody with this posting and in case I do I apologize -
Through my company, I haven lucky to have had the opportunity to live in different corners of the world and experience many different cultures. Getting to see multiple cultures ads more knowledge but also sometimes makes you ask questions.
While living in Europe I was lucky enough to have meet a very smart and gorgeous women, we dated for a few years when I asked her to marry me. After getting married I was relocated back to the US and my company took care of the paperwork and she moved with me.
One of the things that I can say happened personally to me and to some other co-workers is that we started preferring dating European women and no longer even consider dating American women.
Trying to figure out the cultural difference's between European and American womens to try to figure out "Why?", why we don't date American women. So we decided to post a topic to find out more.
Here is a comparison of what we have come up with, again this are just general and some of them might be a stereotype. But that is why we want to discuss them here.
- Most European women are very Independent, they want to have some life outside of the relationship. American women want to do everything as a couple.
- Most European women prefer to be financially responsible, like they would rather pay for their own dinner when in the US, its automatically expected that guys have to buy gifts and pay for dinner.
- European women prefer to be healthy, have very active lifestyle. Going to the gym, biking and walking is the thing to do. I am not saying that all American women are not into a healthy lifestyle but its certainly a small percentage in comparison. Unfortunately for some of my friends who married American women once they got married they gained weight... blaming it on childbirth and things like that when I can say for a fact from my and my friends European wifes that after child birth after some months they where back to their previous weight without even trying but just because of their healthy lifestyle.
- In Europe, its common for couples to live together and of course have sex before they are married, I think thats great because you get to know what it is to marry someone, no surprises. But I noticed in America that is a taboo specially around Christian's who look down at those who live together or are sexually active with their loved ones before they are married. How can someone make a lifetime commitment before knowing what they are getting into.
The guys I work with have discussed this greatly, which I think its great to know people I can be that comfortable with the only negative thing that has come out of it is that we have discussed this with other's at work who have divorced their American Wife and re-married European. I don't think thats cool but they are happier now.
All I can say is that I am madly in love with my wife, my wife means everything to me.
Please, I am curious to discuss this subject here on Topix.
Hmmmm, well.. lol MY question would be, if you are SO happy in your relationship, why are you on an online dating forum posting a loooooong post like this one? It would seem to me, a happy man would be less concerned with what (and who) the rest of the world is doing, and more concerned with spending time with his beautiful European wife! ROFL

Seriously though, we all have our preferences. nothing wrong with that! Have a good one =)
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Alyssa

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Mar 10, 2009
American women ARE European woman!!!!!! Remember what they taught you in American history class????

American system sucks and its destroying every person in this country through propaganda and agenda pushing.

Are you depressed?? Here's a pill for it!
Are you fat? Here's a special miracle tea or pill for that too!!!
Are you impotent? Here's another pill.
Are you dumb? Here's a pill for that too.
Are you lonely? Here's a bottle of "pheromones"?
Are you broke? Here's a "get rich fast" book?
Are your kids disrespectful? Read this book.
Are you wrinkly? Here's some botox.
Low self-esteem? Buy the latest beauty products.
Equal rights for women? Sleep with as many man as you can, so you can feel like you're having sex like a man.
Are you too tired to cook? Pop one of those disgusting frozen dinners into the microwave, and feed your kids the wonderful preservatives and extra sodium.
God forbid a woman cooks a meal...all of a sudden its a feminist issue.
Are you hungry? Look outside around every corner there's a fast food restaurant, or better yet, watch TV and you'll see 3 food commercials per commercial segment.

This is all it is in this country. NOBODY is addressing the real issues causing these problems. People here are zombies and nobody is questioning why.
The government is pulling all the strings while they're stuffing you with their pharmaceuticals and disgusting food, just long enough to distract you from real issues.

So you want the real difference between Americans and Eropeans??? European Union cares more about its residents than how much money they can milk out of them through schemes.
Think about it, and instead of complaining about it, make a difference and start questioning.

Remember the saying "I think therefore I am". This does not apply to the American population.

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Louella Trinidad WI

Trinidad and Tobago

#8 Mar 31, 2009
Wow, Alyssa your comments are scathing girl. But then i guess the courage to scrutinize oneself and ones own political system takes courage. But i guess that that is what the american system is all about in the first place. There are some who dare not express their opinion as freely as you have.
But i agree. The only difference between american and european women is a question of culture and although alot of that which is american is derived from europe, the americans have their own culture, which doesn't have much to do wit europe. I am merely saying this as an outsider to both europe and america, but also as a person who has been influenced by both in my own country.
Women are women. We are all seen as inferior one way or another. One might say that some are more inferior than others(in the tradition of george orwell), but all in all we all have the same "shortcomings" anyway.
Youness

Casablanca, Morocco

#9 Jun 4, 2009
I am from Morocco and the Dana 21 years old, and I am easy going, fair, beautiful and caring and understanding ... I would also like to pay attention to the relationship, but I could hurt so many times.
Will wish to meet an honest and caring man to live the rest of my life and take care of me also goo

I am looking for honest, caring for, understanding and open-minded man can live the rest of his life with me and know how to take good care of my heart.(ajermouneyouness@yahoo. com)_...Its fragments

Its fragments

Do you love or Isgrk are not linked to a young man?

Do you feel that the patients love you?

Do you will be successful and continue

Stchari Is this age difference between you?
Opinion Girl

Fenton, MO

#11 Jun 8, 2009
America is a very large and very diverse place. A woman in Dallas is very different than a woman in NYC vs. Miami etc. I live in Manhattan and do not find your assessment of American women to be true here at all. Although perhaps it is in many other parts of the country.
Natalia

United States

#13 Jun 26, 2009
I agree entirely with Opinion Girl and Alyssa.
As an American born and raised in Los Angeles, I would have to say that the cultural differences throughout this Country vary from region to region and are reflected through their local historic past. Also, certain regions tend to be plagued more intensely by religious taboo and ideals, which in turn can drastically affect the female mentality. The regional differences here in the states are also very much affected by education level. Here in California, female enrollment in colleges is actually higher than the male population. Where as in other states, this is not the case.

In terms of our government...wow. Alyssa..you hit the nail on the head. Most people here in America are literal drones who accept whatever is fed to them (literally and metaphorically). Our government is driven on ripping as much income off from us through drugging our people up with antibiotics and medicines they don't really need, and entirely artificial shit for food. Fortunately for people like us, we can see past the garbage and propaganda our government and media feeds us and start to look beyond the tunnel vision trap most of this country is locked into. I personally do NOT own a tv and refuse to listen to the nonsense our government and media speak with a rational approach based on questioning.

I recently have become extremely great friends with a Dutch foreign exchange student(my first encounter with an authentic European), and have found his perspectives and opinions, on almost EVERYTHING, a million times more intelligent and progressive than those of my local counterparts.
Most women here are slaves to the constraints our selfish government and religious based culture have set up for them. Snap into it America,(at risk of sounding cliche) think outside the box!
adam

Houston, TX

#14 Jun 30, 2009
women in america are also hard to understand because when you show them love fast they think its corny and not real and you got to pretend to be somebody your not to win her and they dont consider it could be love at first sight. i dont have this problem with women outside my country. i am 31 and have a high awareness of american women. this is a culture where women are too independent and they insist their guy friends will still call them when they marry and dont realize you got to change things when you marry thats why america has the highest divorce rate than any other country. so i am ready for a change . change in different culture of women. my philipino girlfriend could give 2 shits about being friends with women that insist their guy friends will call her while married . all thats good for is cheating and i wont have that under my roof .
justin

Kathmandu, Nepal

#15 Jul 2, 2009
okey guys i didnt read whole of the story but i kind of understood wht is this actully of.. trust me . european women are the best apart british(they are crazy i experiance that)
i think in a relationship european women look for fun look for some kind of magical things and ofcourse not long long term realtionship instead of american and british they mostly look for someone they who has money and someone who can take them out for party every time and even all they just want to have fun and they dont respect any one these women are like.. totally looking for someone to marry not for someone they just can chill out with.. i guess with all thoes frustuation in america and england where everything is money and money and your brain i mean who i the best thing i guess women in europe are like open and truthful in one way also on the other hadn women are like open book in europe they can acknowladge people but not look for some genius things in everyone.. i guess every first date you just want to be yourself and look for yourself. in a country where people bitch about black husband you cant have this feeling .. i am into this i have to be truth full europeans especially from german,holland,norway,belgium, france(ofcourse my best one).
British indian

London, UK

#19 Aug 28, 2009
American women are extremely unnattrative compared to British white women. American are loud and have a big mouth - You cant live with a woman who opens her mouth so wide every time she speaks. Sometimes, You want some space and peace and quiet and you cant get that with a big mouthed and loud american freak.

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American Women

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#20 Sep 5, 2009
I am an American woman and I find the discussion interesting and offensive at the same time. At the end of the day though, I really don't care if some men prefer European woman. I am a secure American woman who knows that there are millions and perhaps billions of men out there who love American women. Most American women do not lose sleep over stuff like this because we know who we are, and we know that we have a lot to offer this world.
Cory

Syracuse, NY

#21 Sep 6, 2009
Wow, a discussion about how European women are superior to American women, and I see half the posters are American women who think by bashing their own country they'll "fit in"?

Of course, they're too stupid to realize they're proving the validity of the stereotype that American women are loud, obnoxious, overly opinionated, penis-envious egotists. Get out of here, you sows! An anti-American woman from America is STILL an American woman.

I just hope the American women who have posted agreements to this thread DON'T move to Europe and poison the Continent with their presence.
Fred

Manassas, VA

#22 Sep 9, 2009
As someone who was born and raised in the US, I have to agree with most of the initial comments in the first post. I have lived all over the US (north east, midwest, west) and traveled across Europe, Asia, South America, and Australia. My last girlfriend was European and she was the best woman I have ever dated.

I was talking to a friend of mine about this the other day. We both found America women very hard to date. Neither of us could quite explain it, but it is a combination of cocky attitude, high expectations, and little/no reciprocal effort. Almost all American women have it, not just the pretty ones. He is dating a Brazilian woman now and loves her to pieces. Me? I have not ruled out dating American women, but I am looking European or Australian (LOVE that accent!).
lived in both US and EU

Davenport, IA

#23 Oct 2, 2009
The problem that males have with American women is that American women expect you to be men and women in many other cultures allow you to remain boys.

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dual citizen

Wellsboro, PA

#24 Oct 4, 2009
i'm a dual citizen of ireland and the usa and a woman.
i think there's a LOT of generalizing going on about american vs. european women.
to say an american woman 'acts like this' or a european woman 'acts like that' is ridiculous. it's so generalized as to be absurd. every person is different; it is dependent on the ways in which they were raised, the location, education, etc. i'd also point out that the usa is a huge place, and what is common in 1 region is not true in another. i'd say the same thing about europe, where some countries are much more traditional than others.
i also found the statement by the italian man appalling and racist. it's not okay to date someone who's been with a black man? are you SERIOUS?
as for american women opening their mouths too much/too wide ... you people are so silly. what a reductive, absurd statement. i have found germans and austrians to be far louder with their speech than american women. same with many people from spain.
don't mix up being 'cool' and anti-yank with thinking all american women are bad.
i'm proud to be european AND american, but being a citizen of 2 countries, i can say both continents have their ups and downs and to say american women are terrible to date is a bit off the mark and rather absurd.

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Amercian woman

Gresham, OR

#25 Oct 7, 2009
In regards to the first posting on here. It's kinda dumb because i think alot of women feel the same about American men. There are alot of out of shape ones, financially irresponsible, don't know how to be a man-so confused about their genetics, proud to be a beer drinker, etc. There are alot of good American men out there too. It's just dumb or ignorant to generalize about a whole group of people. I think you are angry about something and are trying to blame or ignorant or maybe even naive. Your world could change so quickly. I'm a hospice nurse. I encourage you to try and figure out what's really missing in your life.
petit moineau

Portet-sur-garonne, France

#26 Oct 9, 2009
I think that culture forms us, and I know men from several countries in Europe who have dated American women - and you know, they all said, on the first date, the woman was asking about their job, how much money they make, wanting them to pay for everything, but also wanting to take control of everything. They say it was like a job interview, not to get to know the person, and this is very unattractive. this is not a matter of what is wrong in a woman, it would be wrong in anyone. Nobody should be valued for their income, or to be interrogated. The idea is to be nice to each other, to enjoy the world together, fall in love, and be friends and confidants. A man in not the enemy, he brings special gifts of himself, and each deserve to be cherished and being treated tenderly.

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