California panel rejects new offshore oil drilling

Jan 29, 2009 | Posted by: Top Ex Ed | Full story: www.iht.com

A state panel rejected a proposal Thursday that could have led to the first new oil drilling project off the California coast in 40 years.

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Goddamned liberal lying Democrats. They side with the Saudis. Traitors all.
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their in court with n.j. in lowering emission standards. car companies are challenging their authority as seperate state laws, compared to federal laws, or mandates.
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PooPoo Platter wrote:
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California has the world's 5th largest economy.
If Mississippi is smart, they won't get into a spat withholding goods and services from California.
Not to mention a house divided against itself cannot stand...
LOL, the state is insolvent. So your point on how large their economy means nothing since the state and a large percentage of their population are bankrupt.
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I would require California to allow any and all drilling if they want the Federal Govt to bail their POS state out of its financial hell!

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Well, there you have it. California is all about themselves and have little thoughts about anyone else. For anyone who does not know, California could supply itself with all of its oil needs and export some afterwards. But, when it comes to drilling for more oil and helping the rest of the country, they are quick to holler, "screw the rest of the country!"
They have burdened themselves with so many special social programs that they cannot even pay thier own bill and now want the rest of the country to help them pay the bill. I say "screw California" when we divy up tax revenues. If they don't pay it, they don't get it.
Their main interests are: 1. Gay rights 2. Illegal Alien rights 3. Environmental interests.
And that is the order they address them in.
With all that said, I believe that any state that is not willing to share its own resources with the rest of the country should not get any from the rest of us.
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seedtick wrote:
Well, there you have it. California is all about themselves and have little thoughts about anyone else. For anyone who does not know, California could supply itself with all of its oil needs and export some afterwards. But, when it comes to drilling for more oil and helping the rest of the country, they are quick to holler, "screw the rest of the country!"
They have burdened themselves with so many special social programs that they cannot even pay thier own bill and now want the rest of the country to help them pay the bill. I say "screw California" when we divy up tax revenues. If they don't pay it, they don't get it.
Their main interests are: 1. Gay rights 2. Illegal Alien rights 3. Environmental interests.
And that is the order they address them in.
With all that said, I believe that any state that is not willing to share its own resources with the rest of the country should not get any from the rest of us.
seedtick,

There probably IS quite a bit of crude off the California coasts but NOT NEARLY enough to supply their needs! California has more cars and more light trucks than any other state (New York is 2nd for cars; Texas for light trucks). By far most of the crude from the North Slope of Alaska is refined for use in California and there is a huge pipeline from the Gulf States to California that provides more. The amount available from Alaska is decreasing every year.

We CANNOT drill our way to independence from oil imports but COULD dramatically reduce quantities needed if drilling were permitted of the coasts of California and the Eastern states, particularly Florida, and in Area 1002 of ANWAR.

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PooPoo Platter wrote:
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California has the world's 5th largest economy.
California is broke & sending out IOUs rather than checks.
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well said seedtick.Im sick of these liberal asIholes putting the envir.liberal party ahead of the countries interest.Screw California,no financial aid,let them go bankrupt,they are on their own.
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seedtick wrote:
Well, there you have it. California is all about themselves and have little thoughts about anyone else. For anyone who does not know, California could supply itself with all of its oil needs and export some afterwards. But, when it comes to drilling for more oil and helping the rest of the country, they are quick to holler, "screw the rest of the country!"
They have burdened themselves with so many special social programs that they cannot even pay thier own bill and now want the rest of the country to help them pay the bill. I say "screw California" when we divy up tax revenues. If they don't pay it, they don't get it.
Their main interests are: 1. Gay rights 2. Illegal Alien rights 3. Environmental interests.
And that is the order they address them in.
With all that said, I believe that any state that is not willing to share its own resources with the rest of the country should not get any from the rest of us.
Very well said but I do not see the Federal Government having the balls to do that.

It would be a blessing if that state just fell in the Pacific Ocean.

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PooPoo Platter wrote:
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California has the world's 5th largest economy.
If Mississippi is smart, they won't get into a spat withholding goods and services from California.
Not to mention a house divided against itself cannot stand...
it may be the 5th largest economy, but, right now, they're, what $75 billion in debt, cancelling state income tax refunds and on the verge of taxing breathing!
the "braintrusts" in california have screwed the state blue, and with another blinding jab at intelligence and reason, they reject an opportunity to actually make some money while still devoting billions a year to help illegals...

brilliant!

why am i not surprised you agree with them?

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as george bush holds hands with the saudi prince.. damm liberal democrat...
The government mafia may change hats, but they are the same.

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seedtick,
There probably IS quite a bit of crude off the California coasts but NOT NEARLY enough to supply their needs! California has more cars and more light trucks than any other state (New York is 2nd for cars; Texas for light trucks). By far most of the crude from the North Slope of Alaska is refined for use in California and there is a huge pipeline from the Gulf States to California that provides more. The amount available from Alaska is decreasing every year.
We CANNOT drill our way to independence from oil imports but COULD dramatically reduce quantities needed if drilling were permitted of the coasts of California and the Eastern states, particularly Florida, and in Area 1002 of ANWAR.
Add in the fields in the Bakersfield area...production is probably diminishing, but still a lot there. And, although it is expensive to refine, shale oil has great potential.
The other issue is refining capacity...California environmental rules drastically hurt it there. See the following story:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/623...

Many people are doing what they can to improve the development of new processes that will help us toward energy independance.
See the following:
http://www.utexas.edu/news/2009/01/27/nuclear...

Both of these two programs would not be possible in California. Maybe at the unversity level, but would be killed by liberals and environmentalists.
Arnold has been trying to cut spending, but the the liberal politicians kill any plan to cut social programs that demand more and more each year.
I truly believe that California has a lot to offer, but the focus there has nothing to do with helping the United States as a country.
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BigDan wrote:
the best thing about California is that they are a long way away from here. We should stop supplying them with electricity and oil. I bet power plants will start popping up and oil rigs all over the place and the whale lovers and tree huggers that run the state will once and for all be scuttled.
you tell nice fairy tales

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<quoted text>California is broke & sending out IOUs rather than checks.
I was hoping someone was going to post this! That is exactly what is taking place in California. They are busted, and people are moving out of there. Must not need the revenue from Offshore drilling. How arrogant they are. Someone needs to overule them on this! It is not all about them, we are all in this. If California has it...we want it!
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There is a huge cache of oil underneath west central North Dakota, extending up into Canada. But its under a huge thick shale ceiling. They've already got some black gold out that has made some ranchers zillionaires.
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Shine, Baby, Shine. Blow, Baby, Blow.

Harvest the sun and wind. Invest in hydrogen. STOP polluting GOD's creation.
Drill HERE Drill NOW

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http://www.youtube.com/watch...

We have all the oil we need to be energy independent on our own soil!
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Drill baby drill, drill baby drill, drill baby drill! This makes no sense. Why would you not want to use your oil first before you buy from somewhere else? It's just stupid! Maybe the USA just likes being at the mercy of the mid-east and it's allies, I don't know.
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Wow!! Can the stupidity get any worse?

Even if we don't intend on drilling right away, we need to be prepared for the worst.

Libs are hell bent on finding alternative sources, yet that is years in the making. What if our foreign supplies stop tomorrow? What are you going to do?

Yeah...I know...it's Bush's fault.(eye roll)

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BigDan wrote:
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By the way, California is a consumer state. They require resources from other states more than any other. They have to get their damn water from out of state. DUMMY...the house has been divided for a very long time, you just haven't realized it. You probably didn't realize that terrorist of 911 and their ilk were at war against us long before 9-11.
1) Consumer state? California consumes a great deal. But it also exports over $125 billion a year in goods and services. It has significant high tech and computer industry, aerospace, agriculture and wine production, entertainment and communications. Mississippi? Some agriculture. Some casinos. Nowhere near $125 billion in exports.

Water is a problem? California brings enough in, along with $125 billion in exports. Mississippi has that river, but natural resources don't necessarily translate into economic advantage, do they?

2) The house is not divided. There are a lot of malcontents who wish it was. Fortunately they are a tiny minority most Americans roll their eyes at and ignore.

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