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Greg

Fort Pierce, FL

#64 Oct 29, 2008
EES wrote:
So you'd rather speed up global warming than maybe have your engine last a few days less?
Yes, my boat does not like ethanol and it only gets 2-4 miles to the gallon as it is.
Greg

Fort Pierce, FL

#65 Oct 29, 2008
Yes, my boat does not like ethanol and it only gets 2-4 miles to the gallon as it is.
E-Gray

Murfreesboro, TN

#66 Nov 16, 2008
You need to get your info correct. It costs $1.03, mostly in the cost of diesel fuel--burns dirty) to produce $1.00 worth of ethanol. The only reason we have ethanol fuel to start with is because of crop subsidies to produce ethanol and the influence of "tree huggers" like my former Tennessee senator, Al Gore. What a joke! He lives in a mansion, his electricity and natural gas use is approximately 10 times that of the average citizen. When asked if he would consider running for President or Vice President, he stated he thought he had had enough of politics. Of course.
Now he's a hero--Nobel prize, emmy, and oscar winner. People need to check these things out. The media DOESN'T tell the whole story--not on Gore, not on W., and certainly not on Obama.
Ron

Boynton Beach, FL

#67 Nov 19, 2008
EES wrote:
So you'd rather speed up global warming than maybe have your engine last a few days less?
Actually, yes. When that engine is on the front of my aircraft and I am flying over the ocean and everglades at night.
flee

Matthews, IN

#68 Nov 25, 2008
Haven't experience the negatives of ethanol blended fuel. Engine seems to run better/smoother on ethanol blends, oil not as dirty, no engine knocking, plugs clean. My mpg dropped, maybe....hard to tell with so many variables? Just maxing out tire pressure will make up for any loss of mileage. And I'm talking of 30% ethanol blends that I do manually at the pump. I get 21-24 mpg depending on wind direction, and temperature. Best improvement of mileage is to slow down and air tires up 10 psi past max. rating.

Ethanol blend testing reports and most recent gov't long term studies found no damage even for small engines up to E30. Myself, haven't discovered problems with 2 cycle engines including the old chainsaws.

BTW, ethanol absorbs water a good thing. We up north have to put alcohol in tank regular to avoid stalling out. Better to absorb moisture than let water accumulate. Engines will easily run some water in fuel. I've read some water improves cylinder charge density for improved flow and thermodynamics. I've read reports of up to 30% water mixes. Ethanol attacks natural rubber "O" rings but they haven't used them for a long long time. Most auto manufacturers refitted for ethanol tolerance from Jimmy Carter years of Gasohol fueling. Alcohol is less damaging to most materials as compared to petro fuel (more choices).

Engine technology just starting to exploit the superior fuel of ethanol. High engine compression a major factor to efficiency. Ethanol a perfect fuel for diesel technology and high turbocharged engines. Direct injection another big improvement ethanol efficient at. Modern ethanol engines will produce better mpg than current unleaded engines. Diesel engines will utilize ethanol E95 fuel, but since their engines already maximum efficiency they will get 20-30% less mileage.

Petrol really is a compound chemical of dozens or maybe hundreds of chemicals. Ethanol is pure single molecule liquid. As result the chemical very easy to estimate and control, pollution damage.
Dork

Apollo Beach, FL

#69 Nov 25, 2008
EES wrote:
So you'd rather speed up global warming than maybe have your engine last a few days less?
Cars don't cause much global warming! Coal burning power plants are the main contributor! Natural gas power plants put out almost no emissions. But coals so cheap to the electric companies and we pay our electric bills.
real information

Saint Michael, MN

#70 Dec 1, 2008
tommy wrote:
uhm i work in an ethanol producing plant in virginia that just opened up and it takes 1 gallon of propane to make 2 gallons of ethanol so thats one factor why ethonal is not a good power source the plant uses 500k an hour of electric from a coal generation plant which is reason two it is more explosive and corrosive than pure gasoline ( not good for wear and tear on engines ) reason 3 it gets 14% less mlieage per tank reason 4 its using our food supply for humans and for grazing animals such as cattle and making the prices for grain soar up which is also making food prices soar reason 5 people are paying more for vegatables reason 6 and they are not using american corn or american labor so its not producing american jobs so tell me where it helps ??????????
reason 7 - they employ you (evidently not a citizen of US)

There are so many things wrong in this post, I won't even start to point them out.

Your ethanol plant processes corn not grown in US ??????????
Concerned Driver

United States

#71 Dec 14, 2008
I live in an area that there are two Chevron stations. One has stickers on there pumps that they contain 10% ethanol and the other station has a sticker on there pumps that they contain "no ethanol." How can this be that one has it and on doesn't? Is one of them false advertising because they both have signs everywhere that they are a Chevron station?
Thanks,
Spielmeister

Guthrie, OK

#72 Dec 15, 2008
In Oklahoma Phillips 66 is ethanol free. The entire ethanol project is such a scam on the US. While the chemical itself may be good for the environment, the production and blending of ethanol into gasoline make the entire project carbon neutral. Ethanol is too corrosive to pipeline, so it has go by tanker truck from the distillery to the refinery, burning diesel all the way. The only true beneficiaries of the ethanol project are the grain oligarchs, ADM etc. Oh and in the mean time it raises the cost of food world wide to the point of starvation in many third world countries.
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Saint Michael, MN

#73 Dec 16, 2008
Spielmeister wrote:
In Oklahoma Phillips 66 is ethanol free. The entire ethanol project is such a scam on the US. While the chemical itself may be good for the environment, the production and blending of ethanol into gasoline make the entire project carbon neutral. Ethanol is too corrosive to pipeline, so it has go by tanker truck from the distillery to the refinery, burning diesel all the way. The only true beneficiaries of the ethanol project are the grain oligarchs, ADM etc. Oh and in the mean time it raises the cost of food world wide to the point of starvation in many third world countries.
Can you explain to me why ethanol cannot be transported in pipelines but can be in tankers (which are made from the same materials?) Also, why have several pipelines been built in the past couple of years for ethanol transport if ethanol cannot be transported by pipeline?

Corn is the same price today as was in the '70s.

The spike in price last June was due to a flood in the midwest. I'll bet no mill/manufacturer bought any grain during that period ... but they raised the prices of their products anyway.

That said, Corn price doubled in June. Tortilla prices in Mexico went up 500%! How can that be justified? It's easy ... blame ethanol. I'll bet they are still charging the five-times-the-price even though corn has gone back down.

Corruption is the cause of world hunger.
msmarie

Bishopville, SC

#74 Dec 23, 2008
The sunoco station in Marion,SC has not posted a ethanol sticker, but who knows. I do get better gas milage with it though.
msmarie

Bishopville, SC

#75 Dec 23, 2008
why can't someone make the oil companies STOP putting things in our gasoline that will wreck our engines. Oil companies and Auto makers got a deal going? makes you think.
Philip

Waukegan, IL

#76 Dec 24, 2008
Tom wrote:
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The Chevron by me has no enthanol. Costs a little more, but saves the seals on BMW fuel pumps. Better gas mileage also to reduce global warming. If anyone knows of any other station brands please post. The Marathon by me has ethanol. Does anyone think the food we are buying is getting expensive? I hope that is not ethanol.
Citgo does not use ethanol, except in the areas that "require" blended fuels. The company is 100% Venezuelan owned.
Philip

Waukegan, IL

#77 Dec 24, 2008
Citgo does not use ethanol, except in the areas that "require" blended fuels. The company is 100% Venezuelan owned. Look at the FAQ on their website.
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Saint Michael, MN

#78 Dec 24, 2008
msmarie wrote:
why can't someone make the oil companies STOP putting things in our gasoline that will wreck our engines. Oil companies and Auto makers got a deal going? makes you think.
What do they put in gasoline that will wreck our engines?
G I Joe

Las Vegas, NV

#79 Dec 28, 2008
Ethanol varys by state... very few of the gas stations in Northern Michigan have ethenol..If they do it is very rare.. that includes BP and Shell..Other states have it in all the gas. Seems to be more predominant in the western states...Hmmm wonder why..
Selinda B

Saint Michael, MN

#80 Dec 29, 2008
G I Joe wrote:
Ethanol varys by state... very few of the gas stations in Northern Michigan have ethenol..If they do it is very rare.. that includes BP and Shell..Other states have it in all the gas. Seems to be more predominant in the western states...Hmmm wonder why..
Hmmm ... because the western states are not stupid?
wintertexan

United States

#81 Jan 2, 2009
WE found in traveling,towing a trailer with a pickup, that Exxon provides the best performance/mileage, and it does not state that there is ethanol in their gas, on the pumps anyway.
Tom

Brooksville, FL

#82 Jan 5, 2009
The only thing that ethanol is sure to do is wreck your engine. We have every government and policitican to thank for this, and that IDIOT AL GORE! They're all getting rich and laughing at us for being sheep and doing what we're told like "goot little nazis." It's ruining my car, it ings like crazy and the mileage is for crap. I found the Marathon station in Tarpon Springs Fl. on Alt 19 north of Klosterman DOES NOT have ethanol in it, at least that's what the guy says. And he charges over $2.00 a gallon when everyone else (with ethanol) is charging $1.55. Anyone handling gas is nothing but a crook, they know they'll either get you at the pump or in their garage.
Tom

Brooksville, FL

#83 Jan 5, 2009
flee must be a government official, or he sells crops to make ethanol...EVERYONE KNOWS ETHANOL DAMAGES ENGINES, AND HE SAYS IT DOESN'T?! WHAT A CROCK!!! DON'T LISTEN TO HIM. AND YES IT DOES MAKE YOUR ENGINE...KNOCK!!!

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