Ellen DeGeneres sued for copyright infringement

Sep 13, 2009 Full story: lezgetreal.com 17

Several record companies have sued daytime talk show host Ellen DeGeneres for using copyrighted music without their permission.

The suit filed in a federal court in Nashville last week on behalf of Arista Music, Atlantic Recording Corp., Capitol Records, Motown Record Company, Sony Music Entertainment, Virgin Records America and Warner Bros. Records, claims DeGeneres and her producers violated their copyrights by playing more than 1,000 songs without permission during the “dance over” segments of the show

The lawsuit also called the segment and the music played by the show’s own disc jockey “signature elements of the show.” Full Story

“Child of the Universe”

Since: Aug 09

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

#1 Sep 13, 2009
You think in this age of no purchasable singles (oh, I miss the 45rpm!!) the companies would be grateful for any exposure of their artist's songs! And, they are less than 15 seconds worth of timing - isn't there a rule about minimum time duration?

“Plays well with others.”

Since: Jun 07

LIVING WELL*THE BEST REVENGE

#2 Sep 13, 2009
You have got to be kidding...So Ellen DJ Tony showcases different peoples music on a NATIONALLY syndicated show and you sue her for letting people know that your music exists.....This is why 100 lawyers on the bottom of the ocean makes a very good start.
shadow

United States

#3 Sep 13, 2009
well looks like the RIAAs going to have another orgasm again..
michael

Marquette, MI

#4 Sep 13, 2009
So she should pay the artists $50 for using their songs... but corporate entities should get nothing.

A corporation is not a person, and they have no rights to suck out the creations of individuals, and then give the individuals a small portion of what they get for license fees.

Only a human may own copyrights, artificial corporate entities, that are immortal, can't be arrested,or face any consequences for their crimes, are not citizens, need to be prohibited from pretending they are humans.

That is what this country needs a new law, stating corporate entities are not humans under the law. Artificial entities cannot be human.

Since: Jul 09

Sonora, CA

#5 Sep 13, 2009
lol..they must be going broke...why would they wait all these years, and let it continue, without warning or complaining?

they are like the GOP...just grasping for something..anything that will help them line their ever dwindling pocketbooks.

we can play against them...DO NOT BUY ANY MUSIC FROM ANY COMPANY INVOLVED IN THE LAWSUIT.

let them get a little amount from Ellen, and then watch their reaction when they lose three times that amount in a boycott...LOL
Mimi Westport

Cambridge, MA

#7 Sep 13, 2009
The Recording Industry seems hell bent on destroying itself. They should be glad someone is airing their hideous corporate noise.

Since: Sep 09

Long Island, NY

#9 Sep 13, 2009
Just found this little tidbit from an article in Rolling Stone about the lawsuit.
"Ironically, one of the companies suing the Ellen DeGeneres Show is Sony Music Group, home to both RCA and Jive Records — where Idols usually land if they’re successful on the show. Still, it seems that it was just coincidence that the lawsuit was filed the same day DeGeneres was named the new judge on American Idol, as the record companies and the Ellen show were reportedly working on resolving the issue."

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.p...

Since: Jul 09

Sonora, CA

#10 Sep 13, 2009
Eschew Obfuscation wrote:
Just found this little tidbit from an article in Rolling Stone about the lawsuit.
"Ironically, one of the companies suing the Ellen DeGeneres Show is Sony Music Group, home to both RCA and Jive Records — where Idols usually land if they’re successful on the show. Still, it seems that it was just coincidence that the lawsuit was filed the same day DeGeneres was named the new judge on American Idol, as the record companies and the Ellen show were reportedly working on resolving the issue."
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.p...
lol..so let them sue her now. and when the idol winner signs with them SHE will not be allowed to promote them or their music.

LOL..what the hell... are the music companies run by republicans..theres no other reason for that level of ignorance..

Since: Sep 09

Long Island, NY

#11 Sep 13, 2009
deeter1013 wrote:
<quoted text>
lol..so let them sue her now. and when the idol winner signs with them SHE will not be allowed to promote them or their music.
LOL..what the hell... are the music companies run by republicans..theres no other reason for that level of ignorance..
Yeah, thought that seemed a tad strange.. just a "coincidence"?? hmmmm...
Will check on the republicans thingy!!
moosey

Madison, TN

#13 Sep 20, 2009
Leftatalbuquerque wrote:
You think in this age of no purchasable singles (oh, I miss the 45rpm!!) the companies would be grateful for any exposure of their artist's songs! And, they are less than 15 seconds worth of timing - isn't there a rule about minimum time duration?
I'm sorry to disagree with all of you. The record labels are only one part of the equation. I make my living as a songwriter and as a songwriter I can only hope that a t.v. show like Ellen's would use my song and pay for it so that I might be able to feed my family. When I write a song and an artist records it the only way I get paid is if people pay for the right to use it. Believe me, I'm not rich, I just want to work and be paid for my work. I'm sure it is the same for you. Many of you might not be aware of the fact that when a song is played on air the artist receives no payment, only the songwriter and the publisher and record label. Just because you can't hold something in your hand doesn't mean it is not stealing when you take something and use it for your gain and it belongs to someone else. THIS TYPE OF THEFT IS KILLING THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. Shame on you Ellen. Shame on you.

Since: Jul 09

Sonora, CA

#14 Sep 20, 2009
moosey wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry to disagree with all of you. The record labels are only one part of the equation. I make my living as a songwriter and as a songwriter I can only hope that a t.v. show like Ellen's would use my song and pay for it so that I might be able to feed my family. When I write a song and an artist records it the only way I get paid is if people pay for the right to use it. Believe me, I'm not rich, I just want to work and be paid for my work. I'm sure it is the same for you. Many of you might not be aware of the fact that when a song is played on air the artist receives no payment, only the songwriter and the publisher and record label. Just because you can't hold something in your hand doesn't mean it is not stealing when you take something and use it for your gain and it belongs to someone else. THIS TYPE OF THEFT IS KILLING THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. Shame on you Ellen. Shame on you.
hey IDIOT...
playing short little clips of music on a high rated television show causes people to go out and buy the cd's....

free advertising.
I hardly think anyone is not going to buy a cd because this one time they heard a 30 second clip of the song..LOL

it actually causes MORE people to buy the stupid cd than would have if it had not been heard on a tv show like Ellen.

so go cry somewhere else.

Half the time I wouldn't even know about many songs or cds or albums if I did not hear them somewhere like on a tv show.

you should be paying HER to advertise the crap that is being written nowadays.
moosey

Madison, TN

#15 Sep 20, 2009
deeter1013 wrote:
<quoted text>
hey IDIOT...
playing short little clips of music on a high rated television show causes people to go out and buy the cd's....
free advertising.
I hardly think anyone is not going to buy a cd because this one time they heard a 30 second clip of the song..LOL
it actually causes MORE people to buy the stupid cd than would have if it had not been heard on a tv show like Ellen.
so go cry somewhere else.
Half the time I wouldn't even know about many songs or cds or albums if I did not hear them somewhere like on a tv show.
you should be paying HER to advertise the crap that is being written nowadays.
Thanks for the civility. This is an issue that truly effects me, that might be what you believe to be true but the numbers don't lie, no matter how much name calling you do. It doesn't matter. Take a look at record sales. Album sales are down nearly 30% in recent years while illegal downloading is drastically up. This effects the business as a whole. With less money coming in labels sign less artists. With less artists there is less work for technical crew, road musicians, even bus drivers. Why do people like you get to decide what is the best way to use what I create and own? Hershey makes a candy bar. If tens of thousands of people start stealing candy bars out of stores every week the way copyrighted music is stolen, is that free advertising? Should Hershey be thrilled? Will more people buy them in the future because they sampled them for free? Of course not. No offense, I'm just trying to survive in a world full of people like you.
michael

Marquette, MI

#19 Oct 1, 2009
I used to sell $6,000 per month in USED compact discs, with free downloading and mp3 players, all those sales went bye bye. Never to come back.

Its because record companies tried to charge $15-25 for a CD that cost a dollar, and the music on it was worth maybe $5-10... but they insisted on their huge profits, so they could pay their exec's so much money and huge dividends, and for their huge lawyer tabs, and their promotions and accounting schemes.

If CD's hadn't cost more than $5 and if $3 of that went to the artist this wouldn't have happened so fast. But if artists aren't making money they just have to get on the road and do live performances.
Too many tards

United States

#20 Oct 1, 2009
moosey wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry to disagree with all of you. The record labels are only one part of the equation. I make my living as a songwriter and as a songwriter I can only hope that a t.v. show like Ellen's would use my song and pay for it so that I might be able to feed my family. When I write a song and an artist records it the only way I get paid is if people pay for the right to use it. Believe me, I'm not rich, I just want to work and be paid for my work. I'm sure it is the same for you. Many of you might not be aware of the fact that when a song is played on air the artist receives no payment, only the songwriter and the publisher and record label. Just because you can't hold something in your hand doesn't mean it is not stealing when you take something and use it for your gain and it belongs to someone else. THIS TYPE OF THEFT IS KILLING THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. Shame on you Ellen. Shame on you.
Agree. I would think she or someone that works for her knows better. BTW what took them so long to file a suit? She has been doing that segment for years.

“Down To Earth”

Since: Apr 07

Indianapolis

#21 Oct 1, 2009
moosey wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry to disagree with all of you. The record labels are only one part of the equation. I make my living as a songwriter and as a songwriter I can only hope that a t.v. show like Ellen's would use my song and pay for it so that I might be able to feed my family. When I write a song and an artist records it the only way I get paid is if people pay for the right to use it. Believe me, I'm not rich, I just want to work and be paid for my work. I'm sure it is the same for you. Many of you might not be aware of the fact that when a song is played on air the artist receives no payment, only the songwriter and the publisher and record label. Just because you can't hold something in your hand doesn't mean it is not stealing when you take something and use it for your gain and it belongs to someone else. THIS TYPE OF THEFT IS KILLING THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. Shame on you Ellen. Shame on you.
Fine, then say, "Ellen, darling, you've been using this music on your show and we would really like to be compensated for it."

What's killing the music industry is the poor way they compensate and treat the artists, their slow-to-adapt attitude regarding digital music, and their bullying of the on-line community. I don't download music illegally, but I haven't purchased a single piece of music in 15 years because of these attitudes.

Every time they handle an issue by slapping someone with a lawsuit, they are shooting themselves in the foot. People literally hate these record labels for their aggression.

“Down To Earth”

Since: Apr 07

Indianapolis

#22 Oct 1, 2009
moosey wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the civility. This is an issue that truly effects me, that might be what you believe to be true but the numbers don't lie, no matter how much name calling you do. It doesn't matter. Take a look at record sales. Album sales are down nearly 30% in recent years while illegal downloading is drastically up. This effects the business as a whole. With less money coming in labels sign less artists. With less artists there is less work for technical crew, road musicians, even bus drivers. Why do people like you get to decide what is the best way to use what I create and own? Hershey makes a candy bar. If tens of thousands of people start stealing candy bars out of stores every week the way copyrighted music is stolen, is that free advertising? Should Hershey be thrilled? Will more people buy them in the future because they sampled them for free? Of course not. No offense, I'm just trying to survive in a world full of people like you.
Well, no. Correlation does not mean causation.

Record sales are down because a CD lasts for something like 75 years - longer if you're extra careful. As a youth, I can remember having to purchase a few albums more than once because I scratched them. Even though I had already paid for the right to own and play the music, I had to pay for it again, my own careless handling notwithstanding.

Record sales are down because online sales are up. On-line album sales were up 10% in 2008 while single-track sales were up 24%. The top selling single of 2008 was Lil Wayne’s 'Lollipop'.

Record sales are down because most new music just blows dogs. Despite this, total music consumption in the US rose by one third between 2003 and 2007 and Nielsen Soundscan reported overall sales at an all-time high in the US in 2008.

So someone... somewhere... is lying.
Too many tards

United States

#23 Oct 1, 2009
IndyStevie wrote:
<quoted text>
Fine, then say, "Ellen, darling, you've been using this music on your show and we would really like to be compensated for it."
What's killing the music industry is the poor way they compensate and treat the artists, their slow-to-adapt attitude regarding digital music, and their bullying of the on-line community. I don't download music illegally, but I haven't purchased a single piece of music in 15 years because of these attitudes.
Every time they handle an issue by slapping someone with a lawsuit, they are shooting themselves in the foot. People literally hate these record labels for their aggression.
Very good point but what's a better solution for the writers and new artists. Again I would think Ellen would know better but it does seem a little un-timely.. like I said before it's not a new bit she does.

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