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Nobel Prize winners highlight universe's design, profs say

There are 4 comments on the Florida Baptist Witness story from Nov 4, 2013, titled Nobel Prize winners highlight universe's design, profs say. In it, Florida Baptist Witness reports that:

Discovery of the so-called "God particle" not only helped two physicists win this year's Nobel Prize, it also unwittingly bolstered the arguments of the Intelligent Design movement, according to Southern Baptist scientists.

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1 Nov 4, 2013
Oh.

So they lied.

Since it was actually Bruce Goofball of the DI who said it (while they sat around on their fat backsides doing nothing as usual), and not the guys who were actually doing the research. There's a surprise.

Oh, but ID doesn't have anything to do with religion, nope! Nosirree-bob! It's just them lying atheist Darwinists who say it is!!! Right?

Thank God for the DI.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#3 Nov 7, 2013
The Dude wrote:
Oh.
So they lied.
Since it was actually Bruce Goofball of the DI who said it (while they sat around on their fat backsides doing nothing as usual), and not the guys who were actually doing the research. There's a surprise.
Oh, but ID doesn't have anything to do with religion, nope! Nosirree-bob! It's just them lying atheist Darwinists who say it is!!! Right?
Thank God for the DI.
Funny, these guys didn't rate mention in the lecture I attended last night. Of course, it was a science lecture and not a Sunday service.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#4 Nov 8, 2013
Crystal_Clear wrote:
So you believe in ID?
Nope. While it's always possible some "God" made the universe, the concept is non-falsifiable and makes no scientific predictions. So is about as useful as saying the universe was farted into existence by the Cosmic Sheep.
Crystal_Clear wrote:
I've always thought that there was a link between Physics and Religion. Have you read "The Tao of Physics"?
Nope. The title sounds like that of something written by yet another new-age crank making silly claims that science somehow supports their philosophical woo woo, but turns out it was written by a physicist. Some scientists can use catchy titles that may initially sound like philosophical woo on the surface, e.g. "The God Particle". Which while apparently a decent science book, still confuses non-science types - some today still even claim the Higgs Boson is evidence of God, even though the guy who wrote it never made that claim. Occasionally though even some scientists aren't immune to philosophical pseudo-science. I was particularly intrigued by the final criticism noted here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tao_of_Physi...
Crystal_Clear wrote:
I'm not an atheist, more Buddhist or Jungian than anything. I however don't believe in ID.
My personal opinion on philosophy is that it works fine on a personal level, but falls apart when attempted to go beyond that and apply to everybody. A theist for example won't find satisfaction being an athiest and vice versa. And an excercise freak with a high metabolism won't be satisfied with sitting on a mat doing yoga as a Buddhist meditation technique.

My only interest on these threads is science, and ultimately science doesn't really care much about what philosophy has to say.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#7 Nov 9, 2013
Crystal_Clear wrote:
God is a man made concept trying to explain away why things happen. I am not an Atheist nor am I a Christian - and I certainly don't believe in ID. It's a joke.
Good enough for me.

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