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Deflating fuel costs

Pilot Jon Conrad, walking away from the Goodyear blimp after making a landing at the Carson field, says updating the fuel injectors on the blimp's engines in 2002 "cut our fuel burn in half." Think gas prices ...

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May 19, 2008
 
1225 KPH wrote:
This article is absurd and certainly not newsworthy. AvGas has gone from $4.00 to $5.36! At ten gallons per hour, the blimps fuel budget has increased by $13.60 per hour.
If the blimp flies 24/7 (and it doesn't),$13.60 X 24 X 365 =$119,136 per year
Goodyear sold 15,000,000 tires last year.
The price of each Goodyear tire will go up by $119,136 / 15,000,000 =$0.0079424 as a result of paying the higher blimp fuel bill. Less than 8/10th of one cent per tire.
I thought it was newsworthy ... Goodyear is exactly about bean counting short of anything to do with corporate compensation/retirement/hiring .
Don't know how you came up with 8/10th per cent per tire when I paid some 730.00 for my last set of Forteras on my truck and hubby works at a plant (my last set,thank you very much)...and they have sure upped it more than 8/10th per tire since January 07 and hear they are going to up it again.

None of it has a thing to do with the blimp fuel bill anyhow, just the price of fuel period as far as I know. I reckon someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe its all about the oil prices as its part of the mix ? No worris anyway...they need the ole Blimps....they are pretty much all they have left as the false face of being American....for the people...for NASCAR....for NFL....for the SUCKERS....THE SPIRIT OF AMERICA...advertising...GET THERE and I suppose this could be true for Keegan and Company all happy and bloated on their compensations and bonuses,surrounded by friends of old from Kodak,Delphi and TRW,etc.,creating new positions while pushing retirees out on the streets.... so maybe the next slogan will flash across the skies ...GOT THERE.....and while the crowds are eating their hot dogs and raising their beers ,cheering and in wonder that changes to shock as the ole SPIRIT of AMERICA sets sail overseas flashing.... WENT TO CHINA.
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May 19, 2008
 
Goodyear keeps the blimp NOISY so people will look up. Goodyear, if you want to save money and stop wasting imported oil, simply get rid of the blimp. Save yourself a fortune. In the meantime stop flying it over the beach cities. We've had enough of your noise and air pollution. Year after year after year of your grinding noisy blimp is enough. We didn't buy a home here to have your advertising noisy pollution grinding over our home. Stop giving free rides to all the politicians and bureaucrats. Is that your way of shutting them up? We're tired of the noisy Goodyear blimp. Go Away.
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May 19, 2008
 
CandyGram wrote:
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Don't know how you came up with 8/10th per cent per tire when I paid some 730.00 for my last set of Forteras on my truck and hubby works at a plant (my last set,thank you very much)...and they have sure upped it more than 8/10th per tire since January 07 and hear they are going to up it again.
None of it has a thing to do with the blimp fuel bill anyhow, just the price of fuel period as far as I know. I reckon someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe its all about the oil prices as its part of the mix ? No worris anyway...they need the ole Blimps....they are pretty much all they have left as the false face of being American....for the people...for NASCAR....for NFL....for the SUCKERS....THE SPIRIT OF AMERICA...advertising...GET THERE and I suppose this could be true for Keegan and Company all happy and bloated on their compensations and bonuses,surrounded by friends of old from Kodak,Delphi and TRW,etc.,creating new positions while pushing retirees out on the streets.... so maybe the next slogan will flash across the skies ...GOT THERE.....and while the crowds are eating their hot dogs and raising their beers ,cheering and in wonder that changes to shock as the ole SPIRIT of AMERICA sets sail overseas flashing.... WENT TO CHINA.
Jeez, I gave you the formula and I specifically stated that the ANNUAL INCREASE IN BLIMP FUEL (if the blimp flies 24/7) amounts to less than .08 cents per tire sold last year.

In your own rather inept way, you almost succeed in reinforcing my point. The cost of blimp fuel by itself has no impact on Goodyear.

This article is nothing more than Gene Maddaus regurgitating Al Gore's global warming (oops, I mean "climate change"), carbon foot print reducing, let's power aircraft with diesels running waste vegetable oil even though the only company making aircraft diesels is insolvent politically correct B.S.
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May 19, 2008
 
BlimpGoAway wrote:
Goodyear keeps the blimp NOISY so people will look up. Goodyear, if you want to save money and stop wasting imported oil, simply get rid of the blimp. Save yourself a fortune. In the meantime stop flying it over the beach cities. We've had enough of your noise and air pollution. Year after year after year of your grinding noisy blimp is enough. We didn't buy a home here to have your advertising noisy pollution grinding over our home. Stop giving free rides to all the politicians and bureaucrats. Is that your way of shutting them up? We're tired of the noisy Goodyear blimp. Go Away.
Manhattan Beach. Isn't that the place McPherson Oil will soon bankrupt? I think you mean Unincorporated Los Angeles County?
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May 19, 2008
 
It's just a big advertisement. It's a waste of fuel. Ground it.
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May 19, 2008
 
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Manhattan Beach. Isn't that the place McPherson Oil will soon bankrupt? I think you mean Unincorporated Los Angeles County?
No, it's Hermosa that screwed MacPherson
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May 19, 2008
 
CandyGram wrote:
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I thought it was newsworthy ... Goodyear is exactly about bean counting short of anything to do with corporate compensation/retirement/hiring .
Don't know how you came up with 8/10th per cent per tire when I paid some 730.00 for my last set of Forteras on my truck and hubby works at a plant (my last set,thank you very much)...and they have sure upped it more than 8/10th per tire since January 07 and hear they are going to up it again.
None of it has a thing to do with the blimp fuel bill anyhow, just the price of fuel period as far as I know. I reckon someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe its all about the oil prices as its part of the mix ? No worris anyway...they need the ole Blimps....they are pretty much all they have left as the false face of being American....for the people...for NASCAR....for NFL....for the SUCKERS....THE SPIRIT OF AMERICA...advertising...GET THERE and I suppose this could be true for Keegan and Company all happy and bloated on their compensations and bonuses,surrounded by friends of old from Kodak,Delphi and TRW,etc.,creating new positions while pushing retirees out on the streets.... so maybe the next slogan will flash across the skies ...GOT THERE.....and while the crowds are eating their hot dogs and raising their beers ,cheering and in wonder that changes to shock as the ole SPIRIT of AMERICA sets sail overseas flashing.... WENT TO CHINA.
Sorry, please rewite this to make sense.
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May 19, 2008
 
Waste of Fuel wrote:
It's just a big advertisement. It's a waste of fuel. Ground it.
And I suppose you walk everywhere you want to travel. Companies have a right to advertise and everything manufactured on this planet uses oil. So, let us ground everything. To a halt and let the fine folks of China gobble up that natural resource.
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May 19, 2008
 
BlimpGoAway wrote:
Goodyear keeps the blimp NOISY so people will look up. Goodyear, if you want to save money and stop wasting imported oil, simply get rid of the blimp. Save yourself a fortune. In the meantime stop flying it over the beach cities. We've had enough of your noise and air pollution. Year after year after year of your grinding noisy blimp is enough. We didn't buy a home here to have your advertising noisy pollution grinding over our home. Stop giving free rides to all the politicians and bureaucrats. Is that your way of shutting them up? We're tired of the noisy Goodyear blimp. Go Away.
I couldn't agree with you more. The fact that we pass laws controlling leaf blower noise and then let this noisy "leaf-blower-in-the-sky " fly around without restriction amazes me.

The thing that bugs me the most is that Goodyear flies their blimp over the South Bay only so that they can give away flights on it as a promotional vehicle... but the blimp can only seat like 7 PEOPLE! That means that for 7 people to get their promotional blimp ride, more than 100,000 residents of the South Bay have to be affected/disturbed by their super-noisy engines. That is lame.

I have seen newer Zeppelins in Europe and they are virtually SILENT! So, it CAN be done. But Goodyear chooses to fly with noisy engines, because they don't give a rat's a** about the communities they fly over.

THIS ARTICLE PORTRAYS THEM AS CARING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT THEY HAVE ALREADY SHOWN TO NOT CARE AT ALL ABOUT THEIR NOISE POLLUTION. THAT'S THE REAL STORY I WISH THE DAILY BREEZE WOULD COVER. NOT A STORY ABOUT SAVING A COUPLE OF BUCKS IN FUEL.

If this bugs you, I would recommend that you do as I have done: call the Goodyear Airship Operations Center in Carson and tell the pilots how you feel about them repeatedly flying over your property.

Lastly, please also remember that Blimps are dangerous. One crashed on landing in Carson a couple of years ago, and another went down over a neighborhood in the Midwest in the late 90s.

Goodyear is annoying us with their noise and endangering our lives... all so that 7 people can get go ""oooh....ahhhh " as they fly recklessly over our neighborhoods.
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May 19, 2008
 
"Cessna recently announced plans to build 172 Skyhawks with diesel engines. But that deal is on hold since Thielert Aircraft Engines - a German company that is the leading manufacturer of diesel aircraft engines - declared insolvency last month."

The diesel engine in aircraft has been around since the Nazi's used them in high-altitude recon-bomers in WWII. The engines were unsuitable for aircraft then. The diesel engine is still unsuitable for aircraft now. The diesel engine always weighs too much to be practical except when it is a big engine, doing a big job on the ground in a big vehicle, or stationary as a generator. But why some people, who should really know better, continue to try diesels in cars and airplanes is beyond me.

Oh, by-the-way, about the Goodyear Blimp? More power to them. It is an asset to the South Bay. I even like the "noise"!
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May 19, 2008
 
We have avoided buying anything Good Year for years because they fly their noisy blimp over our home. They don't care about us. Why should we buy Good Year?

They even ruin sporting events when all you hear is the drone of that blimp over the Coliseum or Rose Bowl etc. They are losing customers with that blimp. Don't buy Good Year. Check who makes your tires. Good Year also makes other brands. Avoid Good Year anything as long as they waste imported oil, pollute the air, and ruin the life with noise over our home. God forbid that thing crashes on a school like it did in Carson. Shame on Good Year. Bad Corporate Neighbor! Too much advertising everywhere. Don't need it in the fresh air of the sky. Shame on Good Year. Shame! Greed rules at Good Year.
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May 20, 2008
 
1225 KPH wrote:
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Jeez, I gave you the formula and I specifically stated that the ANNUAL INCREASE IN BLIMP FUEL (if the blimp flies 24/7) amounts to less than .08 cents per tire sold last year.
In your own rather inept way, you almost succeed in reinforcing my point. The cost of blimp fuel by itself has no impact on Goodyear.
This article is nothing more than Gene Maddaus regurgitating Al Gore's global warming (oops, I mean "climate change"), carbon foot print reducing, let's power aircraft with diesels running waste vegetable oil even though the only company making aircraft diesels is insolvent politically correct B.S.
:) OOPSIE! my bad... but then math was never my thingy! Though you are welcome for the reinforcement and I did so enjoy your little ALGAE (Al G.) romp through iminent danger and I needed a laugh today...thanks. BTW,I don't really get this political correctness stuff...do you? Its like when I was going to suggest a couple of names for the new blimp and folks told me they would be great but corporate would never go for "Tokyo Rose" or " China Syndrome", I just don't get it.
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May 20, 2008
 
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:) OOPSIE! my bad... but then math was never my thingy! Though you are welcome for the reinforcement and I did so enjoy your little ALGAE (Al G.) romp through iminent danger and I needed a laugh today...thanks. BTW,I don't really get this political correctness stuff...do you? Its like when I was going to suggest a couple of names for the new blimp and folks told me they would be great but corporate would never go for "Tokyo Rose" or " China Syndrome", I just don't get it.
The blimp didn't crash anywhere near a school in Carson. It "crashed" right next to its base into a nursery. Nobody got hurt and the damage was minimal. Check your facts! It seems like the Manhattan Beach old folks are the only ones who complain about the blimp
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May 21, 2008
 
All the people associated with making money from Blimp jobs don't care about the damage they are doing.

The noise, the air pollution, the danger of the utterly unnecessary advertising falling out of the sky and killing someone.

Selfish people looking out for themselves regardless of the cost to entire neighborhoods across the South Bay.

Hey fly it at your football games, but then take it down to Mexico if you must fly the thing.

Stop ruining our environment with visual sky blight, awful noise, and air pollution that is breathed in by children from here to the Salton Sea.

The Blimp is a dumb nuisance.

We like the idea of not buying Goodyear mentioned above. That makes c-e-n-t-s that Goodyear won't get.
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