NYT Reports On Harassment Against Pro-Marriage Equality NC Business

May 27, 2012 | Posted by: Sei | Full story: lezgetreal.com

The National Organization for Marriage constantly and consistently makes the argument that, if their donors are known to the public, then they will be harassed and lose business.

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Herb

Lacon, IL

#1 May 27, 2012
Face reality. There is no logical argument for disenfranchising citizens in order to force the concocted failed philosophy of homosexual 'marriage' into law. Hate and attack on opponents are the only real tools these hateful radical homosexual fanatics have to try to oppress others. Homosexual 'marriage' is a cruel lie with no real basis in how homosexual live!

No significant percent of the homosexual population has 'married' in ANY country that allows it, and studies have shown that few such 'marriages' are even exclusive relationships.

The homosexual 'marriage' movement is a hate based political charade attacking what others hold sacred.

No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage. No economically or physically unequal genders are involve. No child is ever born as a direct result, and no such relationship can provide a child with a father and mother. Having both is one of the most accurate statistical predictions of a child's future success in life.

Homosexual themselves overwhelmingly reject 'marriage' as an actual practice in EVERY country that allows the concocted oxymoron.

Since: Apr 08

Chagrin Falls, OH

#2 May 27, 2012
Give it up, David. Repeating the same failed arguments over and over doesn't transform them into correct statements.

The FACT is that in places, like Canada, where same-sex marriage has been legally recognized there has been absolutely no impact on heterosexual marriage. Straight people still go on with their lives like they always have, getting married, having kids, staying together if they're lucky and work hard at their relationships.

And despite the doom and gloom predictions from homophobes like you, Canada is actually doing just fine thank you very much almost ten years now after same-sex marriage was legalized across the country. And it's the same outcome everywhere else it's been legalized too.
Herb

Lacon, IL

#3 May 27, 2012
Gay And Proud wrote:
Give it up, David. Repeating the same failed arguments over and over doesn't transform them into correct statements.
The FACT is that in places, like Canada, where same-sex marriage has been legally recognized there has been absolutely no impact on heterosexual marriage. Straight people still go on with their lives like they always have, getting married, having kids, staying together if they're lucky and work hard at their relationships.
And despite the doom and gloom predictions from homophobes like you, Canada is actually doing just fine thank you very much almost ten years now after same-sex marriage was legalized across the country. And it's the same outcome everywhere else it's been legalized too.
My name isn't David, liar, and if any of my arguments aren't logical or factual, neither you nor a host of other mindless homofascist clones has been able to refute any.

The truth about Canada is, homosexual 'marriage' has had very little impact on homosexuals themselves, since it has been overwhelmingly rejected as an actual practice. Likely it has added to the suicide rate of young homosexuals who learn that it is a false hope to think that their homosexual lifestyle choice would ever wind up with anything even vaguely like real marriage and family.

You of course lie about my position, because you can't refute what I actually post. That makes both you and your horrible hate based cause look pathetic.

Now, a little homework for you. Document ANY country on earth where a significant percent of homosexuals has 'married' when laws were changed to allow it.

Hint: no such place exists!
Pat Robertson s Fatwass

Souderton, PA

#4 May 27, 2012
Herb wrote:
Face reality.
Hey you sick, obsessed freeek, why aren't you at the PA Catholic Exercism sports camp for closet case males who want help from misogynists in dresses on becoming celibate and even more self hating for the rest of their lives?

Or are you in attendance and posting from the locker room?
Pat Robertson s Fatwass

Souderton, PA

#5 May 27, 2012
Herb wrote:
<quoted text>My name isn't David
We should chip in and do a records search to see if D. Moore changed his name or is now going by his middle name or something.

snicker
Herb

Lacon, IL

#6 May 27, 2012
Pat Robertson s Fatwass wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey you sick, obsessed freeek, why aren't you at the PA Catholic Exercism sports camp for closet case males who want help from misogynists in dresses on becoming celibate and even more self hating for the rest of their lives?
Or are you in attendance and posting from the locker room?
Thanks for reminding us that you hate yourself, the horrible perversion that has ruined your life and separated you from God. You make that plain by trying to project your perversion as an insult.

Do you really think lying about others make you and your horrible hate based radical homosexual cause look better?

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#7 May 27, 2012
fr "Herb" aka DAVID MOORE FROM PEKIN IL:

>Face reality....<

Give it UP, David, and YOU "face reality". Marriage EQUALITY will eventually be in all fifty states and DC.

Since: Apr 08

Chagrin Falls, OH

#8 May 27, 2012
Herb wrote:
The truth about Canada is, homosexual 'marriage' has had very little impact on homosexuals themselves, since it has been overwhelmingly rejected as an actual practice.
IF that were true then why on Earth are you bothering to make a fuss at all? If it makes no difference because according to you there are no same-sex marriages anyway, why waste time worrying about it?

In any case human rights are not dependent on there being a set number of people to take advantage of a particular right. Rights are rights.

“We are all atheists”

Since: May 11

Lewes, DE

#9 May 27, 2012
Herb wrote:
<quoted text>My name isn't David, liar, and if any of my arguments aren't logical or factual, neither you nor a host of other mindless homofascist clones has been able to refute any.
The queen of denial. Nobody bothers to refute your ridiculous made-up claims because frankly they aren't worth the effort. Do you think people are that stupid that when we read the same words over and over again, albeit with different names attached, we don't recognize the author? All I have to read is the three words ("No significant percent...") and realize that it is our resident dingbat, and I skip to the next post.
Hoodathunkit

Mount Gilead, OH

#10 May 27, 2012
Herb wrote:
Face reality. There is no logical argument for disenfranchising citizens in order to force the concocted failed philosophy of homosexual 'marriage' into law. Hate and attack on opponents are the only real tools these hateful radical homosexual fanatics have to try to oppress others. Homosexual 'marriage' is a cruel lie with no real basis in how homosexual live!
No significant percent of the homosexual population has 'married' in ANY country that allows it, and studies have shown that few such 'marriages' are even exclusive relationships.
The homosexual 'marriage' movement is a hate based political charade attacking what others hold sacred.
No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage. No economically or physically unequal genders are involve. No child is ever born as a direct result, and no such relationship can provide a child with a father and mother. Having both is one of the most accurate statistical predictions of a child's future success in life.
Homosexual themselves overwhelmingly reject 'marriage' as an actual practice in EVERY country that allows the concocted oxymoron.
You wouldn't know reality if it kicked you in the butt until your nose bleeds.
Opposite sex and same sex marriages are lumped together as just marriage in all countries and states that allow same sex marriage. Since there are no separate records on opposite sex and same sex marriage, there is no way of knowing how many same sex couples have gotten married. Since there are no accurate counts on the percentage of the population that is gay or any separate records for same sex marriage, there is no way of knowing what percentage have gotten married.
The right for same sex marriage does not include a law that forces same sex couples to marry. The significance of same sex marriage is that, where it is available, those who wish to get married do get married.
There are no peer reviewed scientific studies on whether or not same sex marriages are monogomous. The government does not force opposite sex couples to be monogomous, why should it force same sex couples to be monogomous.
This is not an ideal world. Millions of children are being raised in households where one or both parents are missing. Peer reviewed scientific studies have proven that children raised by same sex parents do just as well and, in some cases, fair even better than those raised by opposite sex couples.
The same sex couples who have embraced marriage are the only significant factor about same sex marriage. Opposite sex couples maintain a 50% divorce rate in the US. Where is the effort to curb the fraud of opposite sex marriage and the mockery that a 50% divorce rate makes of marriage?
Hoodathunkit

Mount Gilead, OH

#11 May 27, 2012
Herb wrote:
<quoted text>My name isn't David, liar, and if any of my arguments aren't logical or factual, neither you nor a host of other mindless homofascist clones has been able to refute any.
The truth about Canada is, homosexual 'marriage' has had very little impact on homosexuals themselves, since it has been overwhelmingly rejected as an actual practice. Likely it has added to the suicide rate of young homosexuals who learn that it is a false hope to think that their homosexual lifestyle choice would ever wind up with anything even vaguely like real marriage and family.
You of course lie about my position, because you can't refute what I actually post. That makes both you and your horrible hate based cause look pathetic.
Now, a little homework for you. Document ANY country on earth where a significant percent of homosexuals has 'married' when laws were changed to allow it.
Hint: no such place exists!
The concocted hate-based drivel that you post over and over again has been refuted over and over again. The problem isn't that it hasn't been refuted, the problem is that you are a fascist who does not live in reality.
mainelygay

Portland, ME

#12 May 27, 2012
Does anyone else here think Herb/David is a concocted oxymoron?
Herb

Lacon, IL

#13 May 27, 2012
Hoodathunkit wrote:
<quoted text>
The concocted hate-based drivel that you post over and over again has been refuted over and over again. The problem isn't that it hasn't been refuted, the problem is that you are a fascist who does not live in reality.
So why did that imaginary refutation disappear?

Hint: it never existed. Your ridiculous homofascist hate remains exposed as fraud.
Herb

Lacon, IL

#14 May 27, 2012
Gay And Proud wrote:
<quoted text>
IF that were true then why on Earth are you bothering to make a fuss at all? If it makes no difference because according to you there are no same-sex marriages anyway, why waste time worrying about it?
In any case human rights are not dependent on there being a set number of people to take advantage of a particular right. Rights are rights.
It is ludicrous for you to think that you have a 'right' to disenfranchise others on the legal definition of marriage.

None of you mindless homofascist clones has been able to make any rational case for your failed redefinition of marriage, and to date, Americans have rejected it EVERY time it has appeared on a ballot.

31 of 50 states now have constitutional amendments preventing disenfranchisement of citizens by you hateful fanatics, and more are coming.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#15 May 27, 2012
Herb wrote:
It is ludicrous for you to think that you have a 'right' to disenfranchise others on the legal definition of marriage.
Gay couples are taxed the same as hedro couples for the government's $467,562.00 marriage benefit package; but the gay couples are cheated out of the benefits they pay for
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/03/your-money/...
.
So its time for the government either to cough up the benefits or stop taxing the gays
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#16 May 27, 2012
mainelygay wrote:
Does anyone else here think Herb/David is a concocted oxymoron?
Which one is Herb; which one is David; and which one is Brannan?
http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/1...
Herb

Lacon, IL

#17 May 27, 2012
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay couples are taxed the same as hedro couples for the government's $467,562.00 marriage benefit package; but the gay couples are cheated out of the benefits they pay for
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/03/your-money/...
.
So its time for the government either to cough up the benefits or stop taxing the gays
Nonsense. No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage, and if the Bush tax cuts expire as Demonrats wish, there will be a marriage penalty again and not a benefit.

If you want to marry and can find a partner, do so. If you want to do something homosexual, don't expect other Americans to pay for discriminatory benefits and subsidies for your sin.

Since: May 12

Livonia, MI

#18 May 27, 2012
Herb wrote:
<quoted text>Nonsense. No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage, and if the Bush tax cuts expire as Demonrats wish, there will be a marriage penalty again and not a benefit.
If you want to marry and can find a partner, do so. If you want to do something homosexual, don't expect other Americans to pay for discriminatory benefits and subsidies for your sin.
Oh, so it all boils down to "sin"? I guess that all non-Christian (of which there are more and more every day) folk who want to marry, you would have no argument against since sin doesn't play a part in their moral code (not that Christians have anything near to a lock on "morality"). Or do you propose to force folk to follow your religion?

I have not chosen to be a Christian, nor any of the other "Big Three" faiths. I wasn't raised with any of them, so don't have a background at all in them. I should be able to get married then, since your "sin" has no meaning to me. And your silly argument regarding procreation as marriage's reason just doesn't hold water - as many other more learned folk have said, there is no procreation requirement for opposite-sex marriage.

I guess we're done here. I going to plan my marriage. You're all invited!! Bring lots of prezzies!!!

“Church | | State”

Since: Jun 07

Toby's Landing

#19 May 27, 2012
Herb wrote:
<quoted text>Nonsense. No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage, and if the Bush tax cuts expire as Demonrats wish, there will be a marriage penalty again and not a benefit.
If you want to marry and can find a partner, do so. If you want to do something homosexual, don't expect other Americans to pay for discriminatory benefits and subsidies for your sin.
"Real marriage"? Really, David... Like yours?

Since it's no longer legal for a man to trade his daughter for 3 goats and a cow we have ALREADY redefined marriage. That's the sort of "betrothals" that are all through the bible. Those sad arguments are ... well ... just sad. And totally useless.

And nobody is trying to change the definition of marriage anyway... Just expand the privilege and responsibility to a broader segment of the population.

It's coming. In your lifetime. Get over it.
Herb

Lacon, IL

#20 May 27, 2012
Lazlow wrote:
<quoted text>
"Real marriage"? Really, David... Like yours?
Since it's no longer legal for a man to trade his daughter for 3 goats and a cow we have ALREADY redefined marriage. That's the sort of "betrothals" that are all through the bible. Those sad arguments are ... well ... just sad. And totally useless.
And nobody is trying to change the definition of marriage anyway... Just expand the privilege and responsibility to a broader segment of the population.
It's coming. In your lifetime. Get over it.
Are you living under a rock? North Carolina just joined the strong majority of states with constitutional amendments against your ridiculous political charade, with more states coming this fall.

You are of course lying about the Bible- or perhaps just ignorantly repeating lies from radical homosexual hate sites.

You know positively nothing about my marriage. Does making up lies and calling me a name other than my own make you feel better?

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