DeVos choppers whirl up debate: Bigger blades get louder neighbors

[purplizzy]

Yeah, there are a lot of companies doing this and especially because benefits have increased so much. It was a nice place to work for and they had remodeled everything in the customer service area, but I still think he could hire some more people in. I do realize he has done a lot for West Michigan and that is great. Everyone that I knew that was full time seemed to be happy. I do know that they have great customer service!

She Devil wrote:

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There are a lot of companies that have been doing this for years, not just Amway. They do it to save on benefits.
Years ago, Meijer had a policy that in order to get benefits, you had to be full time working 36 hours a week for a consecutive x amount of weeks. Just as you were on your last week to qualify, they would send you home early or tell you they didn't need you that day, just so your count would start all over again.
I have a neighbor that works for Amway, 2nd shift, full time, and has been there for years. He loves it there, and can't say enough about how well he and his family are treated by the DeVos'.

[MustangDan2112]

Wait a minute. Are we not talking about the rock band from Akron?

[Corruption Control]

Devon wrote:

People are just jealous. Devos family has done a lot of good for Grand Rapids and now everyone wants to just fight them becaus they have wealth. I only wish he was our Govenor beacuse the state would be in better hands.

The more you post the dumber you sound. The Devos family are crooks. They broke the law in the usa then china and other countries (the same laws) they were fined in all countries. yet they claim they werent doing nothing wrong. I see a pattern. Which country will file a lawsuit next with the same charges as the other countriies?

Devos lost by a major majority because the majority of people are smarter than you!!!!!

[John Grand rapids]

Gramma wrote:

The DeVos' are very nice people with very nice families. Leave them alone. I see nothing wrong with them using their helicopters if they want to. Helicopters go over the airspace where I live in SW Grand Rapids, and over my apartment building, and don't bother me at all. If my grandkids are here, they run to the window to see what color it is. It's fun. The DeVos' are great people, so what if they have helicopters. Some people complain about anything and everything. Get a life! I'm on the DeVos family side.

Maybe if the Devos' were as nice as they portray to be, people would leave them alone. I run a non-profit in Grand Rapids that provides free referral services for the homeless & low income
in the central Grand Rapids area.
http://www.geocities.com/AmbassadorsoftheLigh...
You be surprised the poor help out more than any of the rich. None of the Devos', Van Andels or their corporations or Foundations help much with this stuff, they specificaly help only with hospital & art and help the rich get richer and poor get poorer. IF they helped 501(c) 3 non-profits that are small & local like ours then maybe we could provide more & better referrl services and then they wouldn't ahve alot of people downtown on Monroe center begging for money, food, bus fare, because we could provide referral service to help them with their basic needs so they would have money for other stuff like bus money and money to get back on their feet. But why help the homeless or organizations it is easier to call the cops and say people are panhandling or digging in the trashj cans for pop cans. Yet he can afford helicopter(s), money to convince neighbors to change their minds, but can't even help support local non-profits that are for homeless & poor in Grand Rapids. We didn't even ask for $20,000 or 1 million like Spectrum. We only asked for $5,000 but would been satified with $500 or $1,000 (which is chump change to him) just to know he cared some, but so far he doesn't. So if youa re really afamily member I dare you to bother looking at our website at:www.geocities.com/Ambassado rsoftheLight

[Miss Meow]

MustangDan2112 wrote:

Wait a minute. Are we not talking about the rock band from Akron?

Yes - Whip It - Whip It Good. ROFLMAO! Flower pots anyone?

[Devon]

Corruption Control wrote:

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The more you post the dumber you sound. The Devos family are crooks. They broke the law in the usa then china and other countries (the same laws) they were fined in all countries. yet they claim they werent doing nothing wrong. I see a pattern. Which country will file a lawsuit next with the same charges as the other countriies?
Devos lost by a major majority because the majority of people are smarter than you!!!!!

All you Democrats can not stand the good things the Devos family has done for Grand Rapids. Get over it. I am glad you are in support of our govenor that has destroyed our state.

[Alfred]

Corruption Control wrote:

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The more you post the dumber you sound. The Devos family are crooks. They broke the law in the usa then china and other countries (the same laws) they were fined in all countries. yet they claim they werent doing nothing wrong. I see a pattern. Which country will file a lawsuit next with the same charges as the other countriies?
Devos lost by a major majority because the majority of people are smarter than you!!!!!

Corruption Control
I suppose you support Granholm too.

[Devon]

Alfred wrote:

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Corruption Control
I suppose you support Granholm too.

Or Corruption Control is Granholm. Look at all the idiot post this person makes. I would guess it is her.

[Quigleyover]

Devon wrote:

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Or Corruption Control is Granholm. Look at all the idiot post this person makes. I would guess it is her.

Insulting people would make you what a "Genius"?

And Can you back up your statement "I only wish he was our Governor because the state would be in better hands"?

An idiot would speak out of turn about something they know nothing about, like helicopters.

[Rick]

John Grand rapids wrote:

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Maybe if the Devos' were as nice as they portray to be, people would leave them alone. I run a non-profit in Grand Rapids that provides free referral services for the homeless & low income
in the central Grand Rapids area.
http://www.geocities.com/AmbassadorsoftheLigh...
You be surprised the poor help out more than any of the rich. None of the Devos', Van Andels or their corporations or Foundations help much with this stuff, they specificaly help only with hospital & art and help the rich get richer and poor get poorer. IF they helped 501(c) 3 non-profits that are small & local like ours then maybe we could provide more & better referrl services and then they wouldn't ahve alot of people downtown on Monroe center begging for money, food, bus fare, because we could provide referral service to help them with their basic needs so they would have money for other stuff like bus money and money to get back on their feet. But why help the homeless or organizations it is easier to call the cops and say people are panhandling or digging in the trashj cans for pop cans. Yet he can afford helicopter(s), money to convince neighbors to change their minds, but can't even help support local non-profits that are for homeless & poor in Grand Rapids. We didn't even ask for $20,000 or 1 million like Spectrum. We only asked for $5,000 but would been satified with $500 or $1,000 (which is chump change to him) just to know he cared some, but so far he doesn't. So if youa re really afamily member I dare you to bother looking at our website at:www.geocities.com/Ambassado rsoftheLight

So apparently you know all of the charities Devos donates to? I find that hard to believe. Just because he chooses not to donate to your single charity does not mean he hasn't given to dozens of others. How would you like someone telling you what to do with your money? It doesn't matter if he gives you a $100 or 1 million, some people just love to hate those who have what they don't.

[Taxpayer]

Rough life having to ride around in a helicopter, I'm sure. Worse yet, living in Ada of all places. Geesh. Put the house up for sale if it's such a bother.

I like a few of Amway's products - I tell them at the onset that I just want to buy a few things, no sales calls and I'll pay cash so my personal info isn't stored somewhere. The local rep I've worked with is fine with that.

For the record, I know that Jay VanAndel and Rich DeVos literally swindled the scientist that put together a few of their first cleaning soap formulas. These two are more of the hucksters and didn't have a scientific background. They needed someone to create the product they wanted to sell.

Ethical? Probably not. But if you think these are the only two who've ever done something underhanded... well... ask Bill Gates how he's doing today. Happens all the time.

[Wide_Stance]

funny how partisan this gets

[VanDos]

Wide_Stance wrote:

funny how partisan this gets

What's the frequency Kenneth?

[John GR]

I posted a reply and it was deleted, umm?9054

[Hurley35]

Miss Meow wrote:

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Yes - Whip It - Whip It Good. ROFLMAO! Flower pots anyone?

Where have you been Miss Meow?? Don't let the trolls get you down.

[Jamie B]

Corruption Control wrote:

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The more you post the dumber you sound. The Devos family are crooks. They broke the law in the usa then china and other countries (the same laws) they were fined in all countries. yet they claim they werent doing nothing wrong. I see a pattern. Which country will file a lawsuit next with the same charges as the other countriies?
Devos lost by a major majority because the majority of people are smarter than you!!!!!

Are you a troll? because you sound like a troll.

[Marion]

Very well stated, Marion. But, now I’m jealous of your hay field – just kidding.
I am very pleased that you have a field and are able to plant harvest a crop of hay from it. It pays some bills and is a good way to meet barrel racers.

The hay field is beautiful - we've mowed an area for landing- sun tea is brewing and I'm rounding up some barrels and bronks. But I haven't heard a word from Mr. DeVos - what's with that?

[Miss Meow]

Hurley35 wrote:

<quoted text>Where have you been Miss Meow?? Don't let the trolls get you down.

Hello Hurley,
Been working, and working on my love life. Too busy to fight with the trolls lately, but swear I came across ACP on Singlesnet - a REAL psycho. lol

[Corruption control]

Jamie B wrote:

<quoted text>Are you a troll? because you sound like a troll.

Now only trolls jump in and reply to posts not concerning them.

Ignorance is displayed by those who join into the middle of a argument without knowing the full details.