PROTON BEAM THERAPY LVH center in Bet...

PROTON BEAM THERAPY LVH center in Bethlehem to zap cancer

There are 29 comments on the The Morning Call story from Aug 14, 2008, titled PROTON BEAM THERAPY LVH center in Bethlehem to zap cancer. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

What it is: A type of cancer treatment that delivers higher doses of radiation with more precision and fewer side effects.

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rust belt

Highland, NY

#2 Aug 14, 2008
but what will the butchers who call themselves doctors at the hospital now do???

they'll have to find more victims to butcher.
CONFUSED

Rutland, VT

#3 Aug 14, 2008
Amazing wow what a solution Thanks to all the people that put it together .
Amazing life work . Helping others is the key to a successful life .
Terminator

Allentown, PA

#4 Aug 14, 2008
Gee thats just great, but who the H E L L can afford it
Confused

Plano, TX

#5 Aug 14, 2008
The University of Penn hospital is in the process of adding another building which will include Proton Radiation, why wasn't that included in the article. Personally, if I or somebody I loved would get cancer Philly would be the place we would go. My daughter is being treated at the Children's Hospital of Phila. (next door), she went to HUP for radiation treatments and they are FAR better than any hospital here in the ABE area...
Dennis

Wilkes Barre, PA

#6 Aug 14, 2008
This new cancer treatment facility is what our governor meant that Agriculture is the number one industry and creates many high paid jobs. This is our politicians answer to the cancer that Agriculture grows. All around the country Breast Cancer etc. all because our politicians turn there heads to our Farmers that put cancer chemicals in our water, air and the food we eat. This country has let this so called industry police itself in which cancer is everywhere. Vote all of them out of office and cancer will be eliminated. Cancer or no cancer , its that simple.
Leonard Arzt

Washington, DC

#7 Aug 14, 2008
Currently there are 5 operating proton centers in the country. Not six. UPENN in Philly will open mid-2009 making it six. There are at least 5 or more in various developmental stages and others talking about proton facilities.
Nat.Asso. for Proton Therapy
bee gee

United States

#8 Aug 14, 2008
Proton therapy has been used since 1960 at Loma Linda University Medical Center in California. It appears to be "in its infancy" in areas like ours, where even some physicians are not aware of proton radiation treatment. Cancer patients can be treated with NO SIDE EFFECTS and NO SURGERY. That, in itself, makes this
treatment priceless. For more info., look up Loma Linda proton treatment center on the Web and get ready to welcome an amazing alternative to traditional cancer treatment to the Valley!
Fred

United States

#9 Aug 14, 2008
So because CHOP is ranked #1 in the country, LVH shouldn't bother to try to improve? I don't get your point.

Many types, diagnosis and primary care can be done at a place like CHOP, but actual treatments can be done at other locations that are more accessible to patients and their families. Even CHOP has a bunch of satellite locations for that purpose.

What about people that live in the Poconos? We're already 90 minutes from CHOP, are they expected to drive 3 hours each way for chemo or other frequent treatments?

I think this is great news for the region.
Confused wrote:
The University of Penn hospital is in the process of adding another building which will include Proton Radiation, why wasn't that included in the article. Personally, if I or somebody I loved would get cancer Philly would be the place we would go. My daughter is being treated at the Children's Hospital of Phila.(next door), she went to HUP for radiation treatments and they are FAR better than any hospital here in the ABE area...
mike

Northampton, PA

#10 Aug 14, 2008
if they are about saving lives then money wouldn't be the stickler
Where it starts

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Aug 14, 2008
Confused wrote:
The University of Penn hospital is in the process of adding another building which will include Proton Radiation, why wasn't that included in the article. Personally, if I or somebody I loved would get cancer Philly would be the place we would go. My daughter is being treated at the Children's Hospital of Phila.(next door), she went to HUP for radiation treatments and they are FAR better than any hospital here in the ABE area...
Is this your opinion? Because if you are promoting the Philly hospitals as better than LVH or St. Luke's as a fact, I'd like to see where you get your proof. M&M data, QA data, etc. will suffice.

That said, having to travel to Philly for treatment is almost as bad as the treatment itself. Going to a local hospital is much more convenient. So kudos to LVH for bringing this technology to the valley.
bee gee

United States

#12 Aug 14, 2008
Kudos, indeed, for bringing this to the Valley. We moved from the Valley out to California for 6 weeks of treatment for my husband's prostate cancer. The hospital had rentals close by, which is key, since treatments are about half an hour daily, Mon.-Fri. The commute to Philly for that could be brutal, esp. for Poconos folks.
I am delighted that people in the Valley will soon be able to easily receive proton beam therapy. The only side effects my husband had during his six weeks were shedding a few pounds and getting a nice tan. Way to go, LVH!
Jot

Allentown, PA

#13 Aug 14, 2008
Hmmm, a non-profit institution partnering with a for profit company to provide an expensive treatment with negligible added benefit in cure rates. Sounds a bit fishy.
bee gee

United States

#14 Aug 14, 2008
Perhaps the 12,000 people already treated at Loma Linda alone would disagree with the "negligible added benefit" in cure rates. And the more than 3,000 men in the Brotherhood of the Balloon online support group for prostate cancer, who were cured of their cancers without surgery or side effects such as incontinence or impotence, would most likely disagree as well.

Since: Mar 07

Bethlehem, PA

#15 Aug 14, 2008
We took my father to the Hospital in Staten Island for "Stereotactic Body Radiotherapy".

This was a new technology that pinpoints the tumor, and delivers a high dose of radiation - without destroying surrounding tissues.

He ultimately died, because (according to them) his cancer had metastasized to other organs/systems.

BOTTOM LINE:
If they can guarantee that the tumor is localized, this therapy is great, but who in the industry would issue "guarantees"?
bee gee

United States

#16 Aug 14, 2008
No one offers guarantees, as far as I know. We all know once the cancer spreads to other organs, there is no guarantee. What we do know is IF the tumor appears to be localized, say, in the prostate bed, proton sure beats surgery and regular photon radiation and the side effects of each. I am sorry about your father -- it sounds like you got him the best possible care. Let's hope every day brings new hope for cancer patients, and this is a great new hope today.
Dr Porkchopian

East Stroudsburg, PA

#17 Aug 14, 2008
A spin-off of CyberKnife, by Accuray? CK has been having excellent results with this precision machine. Are the major Blues covering it?
Dr Porkchopian

East Stroudsburg, PA

#18 Aug 14, 2008
Fred wrote:
So because CHOP is ranked #1 in the country, LVH shouldn't bother to try to improve? I don't get your point.
Many types, diagnosis and primary care can be done at a place like CHOP, but actual treatments can be done at other locations that are more accessible to patients and their families. Even CHOP has a bunch of satellite locations for that purpose.
What about people that live in the Poconos? We're already 90 minutes from CHOP, are they expected to drive 3 hours each way for chemo or other frequent treatments?
I think this is great news for the region.
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And your point is what? That you wouldn't drive 3 hours to get non surgical procedures done that kill the cancer cells with pinpoint accuracy? If it's similar to CyberKnife (CK) max procedures are generally held to 5...small price for your life!
Dr Porkchopian

East Stroudsburg, PA

#19 Aug 14, 2008
Dennis Mac wrote:
We took my father to the Hospital in Staten Island for "Stereotactic Body Radiotherapy".
This was a new technology that pinpoints the tumor, and delivers a high dose of radiation - without destroying surrounding tissues.
He ultimately died, because (according to them) his cancer had metastasized to other organs/systems.
BOTTOM LINE:
If they can guarantee that the tumor is localized, this therapy is great, but who in the industry would issue "guarantees"?
Sorry about your loss. Yes, there are no guarantees, however I am familiar with CyberKnife (CK) and CK can, and is used, on other non cancerous masses, i.e. AN's and cranial nerve schwannomas, just to mention two.
Fred

United States

#20 Aug 14, 2008
I would, and maybe you would, but if you've ever worked in clinical care you would know that there are many in our society that can't or won't.

Congratulations to LVH, this is great news for the lehigh Valley.
Dr Porkchopian wrote:
<quoted text> And your point is what? That you wouldn't drive 3 hours to get non surgical procedures done that kill the cancer cells with pinpoint accuracy? If it's similar to CyberKnife (CK) max procedures are generally held to 5...small price for your life!

Since: Mar 07

Bethlehem, PA

#21 Aug 14, 2008
Dr Porkchopian wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry about your loss. Yes, there are no guarantees, however I am familiar with CyberKnife (CK) and CK can, and is used, on other non cancerous masses, i.e. AN's and cranial nerve schwannomas, just to mention two.

Thanks, Dr P., But I'm wondering what the difference is between the "stereotactic body radiotherapy" that my Dad received, vs this therapy.

I can do my own due-diligence, and will report my findings on this board, but I want to know if this therapy is different than what's been offered for several years, closeby.

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