With no place to go

With no place to go

There are 194 comments on the Evening Sun story from Apr 9, 2011, titled With no place to go. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

Keith Grandstaff stands in the dining room of the historic Tillie Pierce House on Baltimore Street in Gettysburg.

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Gettysburg, PA

#1 Apr 10, 2011
God Bless you fellow PRESERVATIONISTS in the future !Thank you for trying to make Gettysburg a better place by preserving it.

York, PA

#2 Apr 10, 2011
How sad! I hope the new owners plan to carry on with their mission.
Common sense

Gettysburg, PA

#3 Apr 10, 2011
How did this mortgage get approved if the house had all of these problems?? Don't you have to have inspections by our trusty code enforcement people?
Historical Ken

Roseville, MI

#4 Apr 10, 2011
To stay in this historical house was a dream come true for me and my family. It's too bad the powers that be cannot - WILL not - step in to help folks like the Grandstaffs who have done something as important as restoring history.
Well, since they're not BIG business, I guess they mean nothing...and that's a shame.
Diane from Hanover

Spring Grove, PA

#5 Apr 10, 2011
What a shame. So sorry for your heartache Mr. Ken. Where are the bailouts for the people that truly deserve them. Hope things get better for you and your family.
Natty Doh

Hanover, PA

#6 Apr 10, 2011
You have to give this guy credit for taking that huge gamble of putting everything on the line to start a business. He's not alone in his troubles; a huge percentage of start-ups fail. But that's America: you gamble, and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. WHen you win you win big, but the opposite is true as well. Good luck to them and let's hope they're back on their feet soon.
local taxpayer

Carlisle, PA

#7 Apr 10, 2011
If people would only learn to make a good faith effort in paying their bills, especially to local conerns, maybe people would not have such problems, most noteworthy with this particular case!

Boiling Springs, PA

#8 Apr 10, 2011
Greedysburg is a tough place to do business in. Most feed off of others misery. Gossip spreads like wildfire. You cannot be lazy if you run a business here, you need to hustle, be personable.Life's a gamble, I know all about it.
Cest Lavie

Chambersburg, PA

#9 Apr 10, 2011
There were obviously huge missteps made on all sides of this equation. You have to be able to see the writing on the wall, but it is very disheartening that someone could lose as much as the Grandstaff's obviously have. I hope they can feel some bit of relief soon as these kinds of situation just breed depression and despair. I really hope they can start to feel better once the situation resolves.

On the other hand, Mr. Jirzy Wirth obviously has even less of an idea of how things work in Gettysburg than the Grandstaff's did. Posting brazen "Notice of Foreclosure" signs? Just tasteless and needlessly humiliating. I don't feel sorry for HIS losses at all, but I hope the Grandstaff's can at least walk away with their obligations satisfied.

Since: Dec 07

Arlington, VA

#10 Apr 10, 2011
History is bunk. So are ghosts. JP Morgan is a corporate criminal. Grandstaff sounds like a guy with too much money and too little smarts. You don't want bankers to be too smart or else they won't take any risks. He took too many.
Gburg Guy

Gettysburg, PA

#11 Apr 10, 2011
This guy burned contractors left and right. He hired them to do work when he knew he was not able to pay them. He may have had the passion to restore a piece of history, but the contractors who were not paid were trying to make a living.

Detroit, MI

#12 Apr 10, 2011
What a sad story. It's a shame others in the same business were wishing them the worst. As a lifelong resident and local business person I find that deplorable. Most of the B&B owners here are " transplants" themselves! What a shame they cannot all work together and welcome the newbies!! Good luck to this unfortunate couple.

Gettysburg, PA

#13 Apr 10, 2011
While Gettysburg is a closed business community unless you are born and raised here, you can survive and flourish if you just ignore the "good old boy" business network here. It is that bad and the boro is impossible to work with as well, that being said, Mr. & Mrs Grandstaff did everything they could to piss off every neighbor, and business that tried to help. I have empathy but no sympathy, you reap what you sow

Chambersburg, PA

#14 Apr 10, 2011
local wrote:
While Gettysburg is a closed business community unless you are born and raised here, you can survive and flourish if you just ignore the "good old boy" business network here. It is that bad and the boro is impossible to work with as well, that being said, Mr. & Mrs Grandstaff did everything they could to piss off every neighbor, and business that tried to help. I have empathy but no sympathy, you reap what you sow
Agreed...they hurt a lot of people who befriended them too. Many of us sent business their way & we got kicked in the teeth for doing it. Their prices were too high, no amenities, not even a bar of soap or shampoo for the guests. No TV..then they started the ghost crap and the Civil War nudie calendars. Very sad indeed.
In the know

Carlisle, PA

#15 Apr 10, 2011
All of you who have expressed your sympathy for the Grandstaffs...save it! This guy wasn't just a poor businessman, he is a crook and a pathological liar. The businesses in Gettysburg are willing to work with you and many of them gave Keith his chance. In return they were stiffed for thousands of dollars! He would sooner make up another lie than pay anyone a single penny. As far as his love for History and preservation, he tore out a lot of the original Tillie Pierce house that can never be replaced. If you want to feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for the person who buys the place next and has to try and fix all of Keith's mistakes and shortcuts. As far as the Grandstaffs go...good ridence, Gettysburg doesn't need "business people" like them!
Gburg local

Carlisle, PA

#16 Apr 10, 2011
The business community was not against the Grandstaffs. The problem was that the Grandstaffs were rude to their business neighbors and that doesn't sit well. If you are going to start a business in Gettysburg, offer a good product and have and get along with other businesses. If you yell at tour groups, act nasty toward other businesses, and somehow believe Bor ordinances don't apply to you, the community will shun you and the results can be devastating.

It is sad to see the Pierce House going for auction. I wouldn't wish that on anyone but it was not all the fault of a town out to get the new guy.

Hanover, PA

#17 Apr 10, 2011
Seems to me that Mr. Grandstaff should discontinue his "boo-hoo", sniveling, "oh, I forgot to look at the bills" mentality and grow a set of b*lls, admit that he screwed up and move on.

Carlisle, PA

#18 Apr 10, 2011
The owner made a very bad business decision. Anyone restoring a very old house might as well at the start write a blank check to his contractor(s)
for the restoration. To do otherwise is just naive.

Gettysburg, PA

#19 Apr 10, 2011
Must be a slow news day. WGAS AND WGAF.
Too bad, soo sad.


Since: Mar 11

Rockin' USA ;)

#20 Apr 10, 2011
Wow, sad story indeed, but hey look on the bright side. The place will be auctioned and perhaps with the lower sale price, someone might really be getting a bargain. Turn it into a historic B&B with all the goodies, hire local contractors and decorators. I was asked at one time to operate a B&B here by a hipchick pal. She wanted me to make my own jams for breakfast with baked goods. Also, to have a supper meal, in case some didn't want to venture out during the winter months. i think also keeping the kitchenfrig stocked with homemade soups, fried chix, potato salad, chocolate cake and fruit pies, would entice couples to stay there, just like raiding the home frig. Country down home feeling in a historic town with great business owners, sounds like a piece of heaven to me.... ROCK ON!!

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