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Ruth Sunderland: Libor pain looming over RBS

There are 5 comments on the Daily Mail story from Jan 19, 2013, titled Ruth Sunderland: Libor pain looming over RBS. In it, Daily Mail reports that:

Royal Bank of Scotland is bracing itself for yet another wave of woe. It is anticipating an enormous Libor fine within the next fortnight, dwarfing the 290m punishment visited on Barclays.

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jack loach

Falkirk, UK

#1 Jan 20, 2013
Update --- Jan.20th 2013.
Pictet & Cie Bank ---- List of Crimes.
1996 ----- F.S.A--- Breach in London.
2003 ----- F.S.A.-- States rogues operating in Pictet's London office. Ivan Pictet
states that documents were forgeries but were later proved to be genuine in
the British Courts. He had documents destroyed in their London office --
hoping to hide the crimes.
2007 .--- The Securities and Ecxhange Surveillance issued a recommendation
that the Prime Minister and The Commissioner of the FSA to take disciplinary action against Pictet Asset Management – Japan Ltd.
2008 .-- Dec.- Pictet Bank state - " We have never chosen any funds linked to Madoff.
2011 --- Madoff Trustees sue Pictet & Cie. Bank for $156 Million.
2011--- Pictet & Cie Bank abetted a Bribery Scheme - Oil company sues Pictet for $350Million
2012 --- April – Geneva Bank Pictet used in Offshore Tax Scheme.( USA.)
2012 --- June.-- Published in Anglo INFO .Geneva.--- USA Trust Fund Investors were sent false and fraudulent documents by Pictet Bank in order to collect large fees.( Like MADOFF)
Even after the SEC in the USA uncovered the fraud Pictet continued to charge fees and drain whatever was left in these accounts. Estimated that $90 million lost in this Pictet Ponzi scheme.
2012 --- July.-- De – Spiegel.-- states – Pictet Bank uses a letterbox company in
Panama and a tax loophole involving investments in London to gain
German millionaires as clients.
2012 --- August ---- German Opposition Leader accuses Swiss Banks of "organised crime."
2013 --- Jan.--- Swiss MP' table motion to freeze Tiab Mahmud's assets of " criminal origins"
held in Swiss banks –$18 million held in 5 accounts at Pictet & Cie. Bank. Bahamas.
Ironically the Pictet & Cie.Bank partners are bigger criminals than the criminals who have accounts in the their bank.
Update . Jan20th.2013..
The following sent to ---- 312-- Lords ------ House of Lords.( Inc. Lord Myners.)
The following sent to ---- 649 -- M.P.'s ----- House of Commons.
SWISS BANK PARTNERS IN CRIMES.
Pictet & Cie Bank.
Ivan Pictet.
Charles Pictet.
Nicolas Pictet.
Jacques de Saussure.
Jean – Francois Demole.
Renaud de Planta.
Philippe Bertherat..
Pictet & Cie.- claim they are the “Rolls Royce”of Swiss banks.
Swiss Banks or more correctly Swizz banks.
Swizz.----“ a great disappointment.” or a “ fraud.”
Fraud.---“ an intentional deception or dishonesty.”—“a crime.”
Crime.---“ an act committed or omitted in violation of a law.”
Serious Crimes .
Conspiring to pervert the Course of Justice.
Perverting the Course of Justice.
Contempt of Court.
Both Ivan Pictet and Monty Raphael.Q.C. conspired to withhold crucial documents requested by the High Court – the FSA --- and the Police Fraud Squad.

Quote.( America’s Top Lawyer .)
You can be the richest man in the world with the best lawyers that money can buy but you cannot win against a man who has got nothing left to lose and is telling the truth.

The consensus of opinion is the Pictet & Cie should be prosecuted , and that their U.K. banking licence should be taken away.
Their Solicitors at Peters & Peters .London “ struck off and prosecuted..”
*** Started campaign --- June 6th.2008.
4 .5years ---- approx 8 .5 million e-mails --- but still no writs, injunctions or threats of litigation --- WHY --- because it is all true.
***. The bigger they are --- the harder they fall.!!!
In America ---- they would have all been in prison for the last seven years.
Full Story.
" Google " .
Insert--( Charles Pictet. Banker.
Insert--( Ivan Pictet.Banker.
Insert--( Jacques de Saussure.Banker.
Insert--( Nicolas Pictet. Banker.
Insert--( Jean-Francois Demole.Banker.
Insert--( Renaud de Planta. Banker.
Insert –(Philippe Bertherat. Banker.
jack loach

Bradford, UK

#2 Feb 7, 2013
Feb 7.-2013.

Peters & Peters Partners ----(1999 ---2013.)– guilty.
Pictet & Cie Bank – Partners -(1996---2013)– guilty.

The bank and it’s officials/lawyers deliberately withheld crucial documents requested under a High Court order. The bank and it’s officials/lawyers deliberately withheld evidence from the Police, and one of it’s account managers Susan Broadhead gave a false witness statement to the Police.
Another one of it’s managers Nicholas Campiche ( Now Head of Pictet – Alternative Investments.) concocted a letter pretending to be a client and closed his account. The senior partner (Ivan Pictet.) sought to have numerous documents destroyed,along with those copies held in their London office’s of Pictet Asset Management. Initially stating that they were forgeries then their lawyers Peters & Peters – Monty Raphael Q.C.–and the barrister Charles Flint.Q.C. later had to admit in Court that the documents were genuine.

British Parliament. Hansard .29th March 2007.
Barry Sheerman .M.P.—quote.

---------“ Constituents of mine have lost £2 million through fraud. The fraudster used Pictet & Cie -- a French Bank -- and Pictet Asset Management to back the fraud being perpetrated.””

Both Ivan Pictet and Monty Raphael.Q.C. conspired to withhold crucial documents requested by the High Court – the FSA --- and the Police Serious Fraud Squad.

Written Parliamentary Questions received by the table office ..

(1) To ask the secretary of state what steps he is taking to ensure that Swiss Banks such as Pictet & Cie do not evade criminal prosecution under EU law even when the illegal act is committed by a London based subsidiary.

(2)To ask the secretary of state what steps he is taking to protect the rights of UK citizens who seek redress following criminal activities by Swiss banks with subsidiary offices located in London.

Quote.( America’s Top Lawyer .)
You can be the richest man in the world with the best lawyers that money can buy but you cannot win against a man who has got nothing left to lose and is telling the truth.

*** We note that there has been a sharp increase in Peters & Peters partners leaving to go to other practices. Moving does not alleviate them of any responsibility from any illegalities that may have occurred at Peters & Peters during their partnership tenure. From 1999 onwards.

The consensus of opinion is the Pictet & Cie should be prosecuted , and that their U.K. banking licence should be taken away.

Their Solicitors at Peters & Peters .London “ struck off and prosecuted..”

*** Started campaign --- June 6th.2008.
4 .5years ---- approx 8 .5 million e-mails --- but still no writs, injunctions or threats of litigation --- WHY --- because it is all true.

***. The bigger they are --- the harder they fall.!!!
In America ---- they would have all been in prison for the last seven years.

Monty Raphael Q.C.--- Master of the Bench --- one of the main advisors to the F.S.A.-- the Banks.--- and the Police.

Seeing that the Banks and the Police are now top of the criminality table and the F.S.A. top of the incompetency list for government bodies --- we cannot understand why Monty Raphael Q.C. and his firm of Peters & Peters are still allowed to operate.( Friends in high places.)

Monty And Friends In Association.(MAFIA.)
jack loach

UK

#4 Nov 13, 2013
Sods ---- Law.

For almost two decades we have strived to get justice for the injustice we have suffered at the hands of a world renowned bank .

Two Yorkshire men both running their own family businesses trying to resolve the problem by taking the correct legal procedures to recover their monies.

The matter was raised in parliament –twice – the FSA investigated the matter concluding that the bank had rogues operating in their London Bank --- but the rogues had left --- so there.

We then approached the Financial Ombudsman Service – our case was dealt with by seven different people ---- then numerous E-Mails were ignored --- nobody would speak to us.– so there.

We then asked the SFO ( Serious Fraud Office) to investigate our case
--- the criteria of our case ticked all their boxes --- we were instructed not to send down any documents / evidence --- if fact they wrote to us advising us to go to the Citizen’s Advice Bureau.( CAB).
RICHARD ALDERMAN ( The Boss)---- who responded to our letter was the man who would not investigate the “ Madoff “ scandal or the “Libor” fiasco. The MP’S committee ----- said he was sloppy --- and the SFO was run like “ Fred Karno’s Circus.----- so there.

Our M.P. approached our local Chief Constable to investigate – our West
Yorkshire Police Force --- made “ Dad’s Army” look like the S.A.S.
Inept , corrupt – from top to bottom. We were criminally dealt with by the Forces Solicitor --- the Head of the Economic Crime Unit --- and the Chief Constable --- one SIR NORMAN BETTISON.---- so there.

We then were advised to pass our complaint against West Yorkshire Police to the I.P.C.C.--- which we did -- they instructed the West Yorkshire Police to look into our complaint.----so there.

We even sought justice through the Courts , culminating in a visit to the Court of Appeal. London. On leaving the Court of Appeal that day our barrister ( a rising star ) informed us that if that was justice then they can keep it. He quit the law and moved to Canada.----so there.

We learned a few years later that one of the judge’s in our case at the Courts of Appeal was related to a senior executive of the Bank.—so there.

The Bank ---- PICTET & CIE.. London.--- Geneva.
Voted private bank of the year ---2013.
IVAN PICTET ---- the senior partner --- lied on numerous occasions and had documents destroyed --- said genuine documents were forgeries.
2012—Voted Banker of the Year.
Oct 2013 --- Given the LEGION of HONOUR --- so there

But saying that honours were given to Hitler—Eichmann--- Mussolini ----
Franco – he’s in fitting company.---- so there.

MONTY RAPHAEL –Peters & Peters. London were the banks lawyers.
He along with Ivan Pictet withheld crucial documents requested by the High Court ---- the FSA and the police Fraud Squad.

Monty Raphael became an Honorary Queens Counsellor.( Q.C.) in March.2012 ---- made Master of the Bench in Nov.2012 .
An expert in Fraud – the Doyen of Fraud Lawyers – so there.

This says a lot about Banks ---- the consensus of opinion is that they are highly paid “crooks”--- no wonder they voted Ivan Pictet banker of the year .

Full Story ----“ google or yahoo”

Ivan Pictet. Banker.
Monty Raphael.Q.C.
Ivan Pictet/Monty Raphael.
jack loach

London, UK

#6 Jan 9, 2014
Update --- Jan. 9 th. 2014.

Pictet & Cie Bank ---- List of Crimes.

1996 ----- F.S.A--- Breach in London.

2003 ----- F.S.A.-- States rogues operating in Pictet's London office. Ivan Pictet
states that documents were forgeries but were later proved to be genuine in
the British Courts. He had documents destroyed in their London office --
hoping to hide the crimes.

2007 .--- The Securities and Exchange Surveillance issued a recommendation
that the Prime Minister and The Commissioner of the FSA to take disciplinary action against Pictet Asset Management – Japan Ltd.

2008 .-- Dec.- Pictet Bank state - " We have never chosen any funds linked to Madoff.

2011 --- Madoff Trustees sue Pictet & Cie. Bank for $156 Million.

2011--- Pictet & Cie Bank abetted a Bribery Scheme - Oil company sues Pictet for $350Million

2012 --- April – Geneva Bank Pictet used in Offshore Tax Scheme.( USA.)

2012 --- June.-- Published in Anglo INFO .Geneva.--- USA Trust Fund Investors were sent false and fraudulent documents by Pictet Bank in order to collect large fees.( Like MADOFF)
Even after the SEC in the USA uncovered the fraud Pictet continued to charge fees and drain whatever was left in these accounts. Estimated that $90 million lost in this Pictet Ponzi scheme.

2012 --- July.-- De – Spiegel.-- states – Pictet Bank uses a letterbox company in
Panama and a tax loophole involving investments in London to gain
German millionaires as clients.

2012 --- August ---- German Opposition Leader accuses Swiss Banks of "organised crime."

2013 --- Jan.--- Swiss MP' table motion to freeze Tiab Mahmud's assets of " criminal origins"
held in Swiss banks –$18 million held in 5 accounts at Pictet & Cie. Bank. Bahamas.

Ironically the Pictet & Cie.Bank partners are bigger criminals than the criminals who have accounts in the their bank.

The bank is now seeking to re-structure -- to cut the partners liability – hoping to off load their decades of criminal responsibilty – and move onwards to carry out new crimes. The Germans are right -- the bankers should go to prison if found guilty of financial crimes..
jack loach

London, UK

#7 Jan 21, 2014
Swiss Bank Accounts. 2014.

Is your monies safe in these accounts ---- definitely NOT.
Would you get your money back if every body decided to withdraw all their accounts – NO WAY.
Economic Experts say that there would only enough money to repay 50% of their clients.
Are you going to be in the 50%--- that loose your money.-- Get it out NOW.

2012 --- June.-- Published in Anglo INFO .Geneva.--- USA Trust Fund Investors were sent false and fraudulent documents by Pictet Bank.Switzerland. in order to collect large fees.( Like MADOFF)---Even after the SEC in the USA uncovered the fraud Pictet continued to charge fees and drain whatever was left in these accounts. Estimated that $90,000,000 million lost in this Pictet Ponzi scheme.

2012 --- July.-- De – Spiegel.-- states – Pictet Bank uses a letterbox company in
Panama and a tax loophole involving investments in London to gain
German millionaires as clients.

2012 --- August ---- German Opposition Leader accuses Swiss Banks of "organised crime."

All the fines that crooked Swiss banks have incurred in the last few years exceeds £15.Billion.
It is also calculated that the secrecy " agreements" with regards to tax evation by their clients will cost the banks another £45 Billion.

The banks are panicking --- the are quickly restructuring their banks ---- from partnerships --
to " LIMITED COMPANIES." ----- this will probably mean that in the future --- they could
pay you only 10% of your monies " if you are one of the lucky ones" ---- and it be legal.

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