New group with Clinton ties pushes a dream ticket

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jacksmith wrote:

MY FELLOW "BITTER", STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)
If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER.:-(
You Might Be An Idiot!:-)
If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.
You Might Be An Idiot!:-)
If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!:-)
If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.
You Might Be An Idiot!:-)
If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!
You Might Be An Idiot!:-)
If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!:-)
If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary’s than they had ever been before or since.
You Might Be An Idiot!:-)
If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!:-)
If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..
You Might Be An Idiot!:-)
If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton.:-)
Best regards
jacksmith... Working Class :-)
p.s. You Might Be An Idiot!:-)
If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...
You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year.:-)
Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don’t die from. And I could go on, and on...
OBAMA AIDE: "WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS" :o
p.s. I have been under heavy attacks for some time now. But it wont stop me.:-)

Why don't you stick to what you know best - you ARE a redneck. But thanks for the effort!

[Bea]

You Obama supporters are delusional if you think that the majority of Hillary's supporters will automatically vote for Obama if he were the nominee. I volunteered in several states and there were too many people who stated that for them it was either Hillary or McCain for all of you to be so confident.

As far as I'm concerned, the only way that I would even remotely consider voting for the rookie would be if Hillary was also on the ticket.

No Hillary, then NO Obama.

[GenevieveP]

AMAZING. The illiterate, racist and sexist comments from Obama supporters. The media tells you that you are free thinkers, and you pat yourselves on the back as you allow them to choose your next President. WTF is the matter with you people?
Obama doesn't support universal health care. This is a key concern! He has no record of bipartisanship or ANYTHING. He skips key votes. He has the most liberal voting record in the Senate, and that is no small feat. He has threatened to invade Pakistan. He never held a meeting OF HIS OWN Senate committee on Afghanistan, and you think he can bring our soldiers home safely?! His advisers have met secretly with Canada about NAFTA and with Hamas; he has been called out on several minor lies about... oh, how much money he took from Rezko whether he knew his pastor was a lunatic and an antisemite. I don't care if he sat in the church or not; I do care that he is a liar and points the finger at his opponents instead of apologizing and owning up to a mistake. He made careless remarks about working class voters who are facing hard times now. He and his supporters continue to call them racists, ruining his chances in the GE. Look at his poll showings now. Look at the electoral map. The man is not ready. Muscling him into the Dem nomination will only come back to haunt you in November. Just look at yourselves until then...
"take her crew of sychophants (sic) including Uncle Tom Rangel too"
"if white women want to vote for McCain to repeal Roe v. Wade, that's their boneheaded decision"
"I wondered how it happened that Obama got NOT ONE VOTE in some predominately all black neighborhods (sic) during the New York primary. I thought it quite strange. RIGHT!
"The demographics have established it, and Hillary takes pride in it - her voter base is made up of uneducated white people."
"Clinton, even though she attempts to portray that she has "experience" only rides the coat tails of her husband."
"She is dispised (sic) more and more daily. Her race pandering has come to a head with her "racists trailer park" speech last week."
"Why don't you stick to what you know best - you ARE a redneck. But thanks for the effort!"

[RealChoices]

GenevieveP, I don't know about all the pro-Obama commenters but the criticism directed at "jacksmith" is valid. That poster has been spamming that same message on different websites endlessly for months. jacksmith may or may not be redneck, but the poster is an annoying bore that does Hillary Clinton no good.

[Rendellsport]

According to AP, Obama camp has scheduled a meeting with Christie Todd Whitman, former Gov. NJ, frmr EPA sec. Additionally, the website obamawhitman2008.com was purchased just yesterday... might be an interesting wrinkle...

[frede]

Hillary was raised in a middle-class family in the middle of a state in the middle of America. From that classic childhood in the Park Ridge, Illinois mobile home park, Hillary went on to become one of America's foremost advocates for children,families, and abortion; an attorney twice voted one of the most the most unethical in America; a First Lady of Arkansas who helped transform the schools into what they are today; a bestselling "ghosted" author; a First Lady for America who helped transform that role into dishonor, becoming a chump for health care and families at home and a champion of women's rights to abortion.

Since her wind-breaking election to the United States Senate, Hillary has been a steadfast advocate for middle-class families, working tiredly to help create jobs, expand children's health care and abortion, and prevent Social Security from realization.

As the only Senator representing New York after 9/11, Hillary has fought to soften our approach to homeland security and to inhibit our communications and intelligence operations. As the first New Yorker ever named to the Senate Armed Services Committee, as well as a bona fide war hero, Hillary, though she voted for the war, and expressing a desire to wage nuclear war on Iran, has been a tough critic of the administration's bungling of Iraq and a fierce advocate for proper equipment, health benefits, and treatment for military families.

Hillary is strongly committed to making sure that every American has the right to vote in fair, accessible, and credible elections. She introduced the Count Every Vote Act of 2005 to ensure better protection of votes and to ensure that every vote is counted. The only time she stepped away from this philosophy was in 2007 during the Democrat party primary, when she agreed that the votes of Florida and Michigan would not count.

She has since, through the rigors of deep soul-searching, decided to change her stance in this issue, and has gone back to her Count Every Vote ethic, proving her flexibility.

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festinog wrote:

With all due respect to the Hillary Camp, but most Obama supporters agree with his principle of change. And that means a change from the Clinton legacy every bit as much as from the Bush. Taking her on as VP would run contrary to this.

He already runs contrary to this, in Chicago he supports every old, politics same as usual, the Daleys, the Strogers, Emil Jones, Durbin, Dorothy Tillman,Beavers, if indeed he was about change why would he support and endorse these people?

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frede wrote:

Hillary was raised in a middle-class family in the middle of a state in the middle of America. From that classic childhood in the Park Ridge, Illinois mobile home park, Hillary went on to become one of America's foremost advocates for children,families, and abortion; an attorney twice voted one of the most the most unethical in America; a First Lady of Arkansas who helped transform the schools into what they are today; a bestselling "ghosted" author; a First Lady for America who helped transform that role into dishonor, becoming a chump for health care and families at home and a champion of women's rights to abortion.
Since her wind-breaking election to the United States Senate, Hillary has been a steadfast advocate for middle-class families, working tiredly to help create jobs, expand children's health care and abortion, and prevent Social Security from realization.
As the only Senator representing New York after 9/11, Hillary has fought to soften our approach to homeland security and to inhibit our communications and intelligence operations. As the first New Yorker ever named to the Senate Armed Services Committee, as well as a bona fide war hero, Hillary, though she voted for the war, and expressing a desire to wage nuclear war on Iran, has been a tough critic of the administration's bungling of Iraq and a fierce advocate for proper equipment, health benefits, and treatment for military families.
Hillary is strongly committed to making sure that every American has the right to vote in fair, accessible, and credible elections. She introduced the Count Every Vote Act of 2005 to ensure better protection of votes and to ensure that every vote is counted. The only time she stepped away from this philosophy was in 2007 during the Democrat party primary, when she agreed that the votes of Florida and Michigan would not count.
She has since, through the rigors of deep soul-searching, decided to change her stance in this issue, and has gone back to her Count Every Vote ethic, proving her flexibility.

First of all Park Ridge is not in the middle of the state, and trailer parks are illegal.

[frede]

that depends on what you mean by "in".

[Dave in Spokane]

The problem with Hillary as Vice President, is that 2 years into the term, she will start to run for President.

[dave bonce]

and hill says she like the idea of tea baggin!

[Chappy]

The only way the Dems will win the middle-class white vote in November is if Hillary is somewhere on that ticket. Otherwise we Dems are giving McCain our money and our votes!!!

[Southerner]

Obama/Clinton - why have a ticket that has been voted against by 49% of the party, when you can have a ticket that 100% already opposed!

EXCELLENT PLAN!

A good follow up would be to help Nadar get ballot access. Then maybe ask Rev. Wright to start stumping for the campaign, accompanied by Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones and the bullet riddled skull of Vince Foster.

Lets see if we can come up with some more "good" ideas for Obama's campaign to consider.

[Joe Traves]

This MALE Democratic voter (for over 40 years) will vote for McCain, if Obama's name is anywhere on the ballot. I don't care WHO is on the ballot with him. Barack and Michelle Obama don't DESERVE to represent America because millions of us DON'T
TRUST either one of them.

[rangerover]

I would support Hillary for the VP slot if she pays her own bills. I didn't donate to the Clintons and I won't again if any Obama dollars go to her frumpy ex manager. She could do a great job as VP. If Barack is confident enough to deal with dictators then he ought to be able to deal with Bill.

[joe]

chris wrote:

Just as you Clinton supporters would rather vote for mcCain before supporting Obama, I lose with his dignity before giving Clinton anything. Since she wants to toss around the the broad support she has from hard working white voters, let them pay off her massive campaign debts and let her earn her living as an insignificant Senator for NY who will never be elected to any position of consequence after the way she tried to tear the party apart.

yeah, funny how they don't realize that the reason they have no money to send is because of the Clintons NAFTA and China Agreement which sent away their manufacturing jobs. The trend had already started before G.W. got into office. Now they want to sell out to Colombia....the salivating dogs. The working class Whites are being flim flammed by a distraction tactic called race baiting. Rev. wright is the scourge of the earth for sure, but he is not running for prsident. McCain allied himself with Laraza, a Hispanic supremacist group in short. I think that blows Rev. Wright out of the water except for the fact that Hillary and Obama court them as well.

[katie]

I think it would be a big mistake for Barack to have Hillary for his vice president. He does not want politics as usual in his administration and with her that is what it would be.
She has played dirty in her campaign, said many negative
things about Barack that could have been very harmful but for the American people seeing through her.
Not A Good Idea!!

[katie]

These Hillary supporters that say they will not vote for Barack make me sick. Much bigger percentage than Barack supporters making that statement which shows Barack supporters are more intelligent, truly want change and realizing what harm more years of the Republicn party will do to our country.
Go Barack, without Hillary,
will do to our country.

[frede]

Hillary was raised in a middle-class family in the middle of a state in the middle of America. From that classic childhood in the Park Ridge, Illinois mobile home park, Hillary went on to become one of America's foremost advocates for children,families, and abortion; an attorney twice voted one of the most the most unethical in America; a First Lady of Arkansas who helped transform the schools into what they are today; a bestselling "ghosted" author; a First Lady for America who helped transform that role into dishonor, becoming a chump for health care and families at home and a champion of women's rights to abortion.

Since her wind-breaking election to the United States Senate, Hillary has been a steadfast advocate for middle-class families, working tiredly to help create jobs, expand children's health care and abortion, and prevent Social Security from realization.

As the only Senator representing New York after 9/11, Hillary has fought to soften our approach to homeland security and to inhibit our communications and intelligence operations. As the first New Yorker ever named to the Senate Armed Services Committee, as well as a bona fide war hero, Hillary, though she voted for the war, and expressing a desire to wage nuclear war on Iran, has been a tough critic of the administration's bungling of Iraq and a fierce advocate for proper equipment, health benefits, and treatment for military families.

Hillary is strongly committed to making sure that every American has the right to vote in fair, accessible, and credible elections. She introduced the Count Every Vote Act of 2005 to ensure better protection of votes and to ensure that every vote is counted. The only time she stepped away from this philosophy was in 2007 during the Democrat party primary, when she agreed that the votes of Florida and Michigan would not count.

She has since, through the rigors of deep soul-searching, decided to change her stance in this issue, and has gone back to her Count Every Vote ethic, proving her flexibility.

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joe wrote:

<quoted text>yeah, funny how they don't realize that the reason they have no money to send is because of the Clintons NAFTA and China Agreement which sent away their manufacturing jobs. The trend had already started before G.W. got into office. Now they want to sell out to Colombia....the salivating dogs. The working class Whites are being flim flammed by a distraction tactic called race baiting. Rev. wright is the scourge of the earth for sure, but he is not running for prsident. McCain allied himself with Laraza, a Hispanic supremacist group in short. I think that blows Rev. Wright out of the water except for the fact that Hillary and Obama court them as well.

NAFTA would have worked if George could of followed the rules and regulations set up for it.