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Third of El Pasoans get medical care in Ju rez

There are 58 comments on the El Paso Times story from Nov 11, 2008, titled Third of El Pasoans get medical care in Ju rez. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

El Pasoan Luis Alvarado pays cash for his doctor visits and medicines in Juarez.

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Tooth

United States

#26 Nov 12, 2008
Has anyone been to Juarez recently for medical services? I would like to go to the dentist there, but am afraid due to all the killings. Is it safe?
Jonathan

El Paso, TX

#27 Nov 12, 2008
By the way, the realist already told you that the medicines are subsidized, yet you ignored his comment.
Gaser

Brownsville, TX

#28 Nov 12, 2008
They have a huge Kracker-Back problem in Jaurez.
The Realist

United States

#29 Nov 12, 2008
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
As I wrote before, I am talking about the SERVICES, not the PRODUCTS, Einstein. Washington Dental is after all a business, I don't believe the Mexican government is paying for the shuttle nor the salaries of the dentists who work there...
And I am not debating whether people shop here or in Juarez to find a better bargain, who wouldn't???
And I am sorry to enlighten you, but as much as it upsets you and me, the topic of the THREAD within this FORUM is what it is. If you want to discuss trade, government subsidized public health care in the US or Mexico, or xenophobia, just start another thread.
I suggest that you practice reading a bit more as your reading comprehension seems to lag a bit. The article isn't only about the Washington Clinic, it reffers to all sorts of medical care and it also mentions pharmacies, which in this case are subsidized.
The Realist

United States

#30 Nov 12, 2008
Jonathan wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, since you're putting an emphasis on services, you are correct. The Mexican government does not subsidize it for U.S. Citizens, but that does not mean they do not find a loophole to use IMSS. Now, put the emphasis on products, what can you tell me now?
I have not the slightest doubt that some El Paso residents do use loopholes to use IMSS and/or sign up for the Seguro Popular. I read somewhere that IMSS estimated that it treats about 5000 El Paso residents a year.
The Realist

United States

#31 Nov 12, 2008
Gaser wrote:
They have a huge Kracker-Back problem in Jaurez.
LOL.

Surprisingly you never hear Juarenses bitc-hing about El Pasoans taking advantage of their services or government subsidies. They are generally a lot more open minded about this.
Jonathan

El Paso, TX

#32 Nov 12, 2008
The Realist wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL.
Surprisingly you never hear Juarenses bitc-hing about El Pasoans taking advantage of their services or government subsidies. They are generally a lot more open minded about this.
Not just El Pasoans, it happens all over the country in border cities.
Dorado

Houston, TX

#33 Nov 12, 2008
The Realist wrote:
<quoted text>
I have not the slightest doubt that some El Paso residents do use loopholes to use IMSS and/or sign up for the Seguro Popular. I read somewhere that IMSS estimated that it treats about 5000 El Paso residents a year.
If you or a family member pay the IMSS taxes, then you can use IMSS services no matter where you live. So treating El Pasonas it's ok as long as they pay their corresponding taxes.

BUT, this article is talking mainly about dentist clinics, ophthalmologists, MRIs, gynecologists, etc.. this article is not about tax payers paying for someone elses benefits. I agree with a post above. Why do people from Juarez go to ELP hospitals for medial treatment?

An MRI in Juarez costs $500 dlls and in EP is about $3K or $10K if you have insurance. Big difference. An eye doctor visit in EP cost me $270 dlls and a visit in Juarez $70 dlls. These services are private clinics that are not subsidez by the government.

The price difference between Mexico and the US is due mainly to 2 reasons, lower wages and lower cost of insurance for practitioners. A MD in the US that makes $250K per year might end up paying close to $50K just in insurance for medical malpractice. A MD in Juarez might make around $100K and pay at the most $5K per year on insurance.

Cost of buildings is cheaper, cost of transportation, which are other factors that affect the price difference.

Drugs aren't subsidized either unless you belong to Seguro Popular, or IMSS or ISSSTE and you have to get them at special location which are very hard to get. Drugs are just cheaper becasue of price fixing of US pharmaceuticals and simple supply side economics. People up north (NY, NJ, etc...) go to Canada for drugs also.
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Short story... I broke my ankle a year ago, and I went to thomason and ASKED how much everything was going to be. They quoted me around $800 for x rays and emergency room use etc.. My deductible on my insurance is $250 in case of emergency. I decided to wait and went go to Juarez to Hospital Gernika, a private clinic near the old US Consulate. Everything was less than $100 dlls.
Mexicotrucker

Dallas, TX

#34 Nov 12, 2008
Jonathan wrote:
<quoted text>
Then get off your arse and get a better job. Stop blaming others for your laziness. Typical xenophobia.
You're wasting your breath. That idiot makes a life our of making racist comments against anything to so with Mexico or Mexicans

“UMMMM...Burrito?”

Since: Mar 08

city withTown Mentality ELPASO

#35 Nov 12, 2008
The insurance/medical system here and all over the U.S is as crooked as my great grandpas' knees. I go to Juarez for dental services to avoid all these Dr's on this side of the border that need to support their high living standards.
MEXICAN RACIST

Tijuana, Mexico

#36 Nov 12, 2008
chingen asu madre todos los de estados unidos bola de habladores pendejos
PERFECT ACAI

El Paso, TX

#37 Nov 12, 2008
Stay healthy, eat right, excercise and take acai every day and there's a good chance you won't need to go to a doctor.
Some people call it the youthberry, others call it Botox in a bottle. Either way, it's important you learn how to pronounce a├žai (ah-sigh-eee), because it looks like it's going to be big this year.

http://acaiperfect.net/
organizer

Pea Ridge, AR

#38 Nov 12, 2008
What does this tell you, that our dental plan suck!
organizer

Pea Ridge, AR

#39 Nov 12, 2008
Dorado wrote:
<quoted text>
If you or a family member pay the IMSS taxes, then you can use IMSS services no matter where you live. So treating El Pasonas it's ok as long as they pay their corresponding taxes.
BUT, this article is talking mainly about dentist clinics, ophthalmologists, MRIs, gynecologists, etc.. this article is not about tax payers paying for someone elses benefits. I agree with a post above. Why do people from Juarez go to ELP hospitals for medial treatment?
An MRI in Juarez costs $500 dlls and in EP is about $3K or $10K if you have insurance. Big difference. An eye doctor visit in EP cost me $270 dlls and a visit in Juarez $70 dlls. These services are private clinics that are not subsidez by the government.
The price difference between Mexico and the US is due mainly to 2 reasons, lower wages and lower cost of insurance for practitioners. A MD in the US that makes $250K per year might end up paying close to $50K just in insurance for medical malpractice. A MD in Juarez might make around $100K and pay at the most $5K per year on insurance.
Cost of buildings is cheaper, cost of transportation, which are other factors that affect the price difference.
Drugs aren't subsidized either unless you belong to Seguro Popular, or IMSS or ISSSTE and you have to get them at special location which are very hard to get. Drugs are just cheaper becasue of price fixing of US pharmaceuticals and simple supply side economics. People up north (NY, NJ, etc...) go to Canada for drugs also.
----
Short story... I broke my ankle a year ago, and I went to thomason and ASKED how much everything was going to be. They quoted me around $800 for x rays and emergency room use etc.. My deductible on my insurance is $250 in case of emergency. I decided to wait and went go to Juarez to Hospital Gernika, a private clinic near the old US Consulate. Everything was less than $100 dlls.
That must of been painful but it is more painful for you and your family wasting more money, damn got to feed the kids!
organizer

Pea Ridge, AR

#40 Nov 12, 2008
Gsans wrote:
The insurance/medical system here and all over the U.S is as crooked as my great grandpas' knees. I go to Juarez for dental services to avoid all these Dr's on this side of the border that need to support their high living standards.
Now that is the truth
TRDOFLZYPPL

AOL

#41 Nov 13, 2008
I take my pets to Jz, they get great care, I can walk in, go right to the vet, he is a good friend now and the average payment is 20 dlls, that includes shots, blood test, check up, and fast service. Sometimes I have called him on his cell and he has given me advice on the phone, even on Sunday. Say what you want, but I wont got to vet here in El Paso for service. Its just to good over there. The only thing I get in El Paso is the Rabies shot.
Whatever

United States

#42 Nov 13, 2008
Gaser wrote:
They have a huge Kracker-Back problem in Jaurez.
I have no reason to refer to that comment, since AGAIN, I was not referring to medicine.
Jonathan

El Paso, TX

#43 Nov 13, 2008
Dorado wrote:
<quoted text>
Drugs aren't subsidized either unless you belong to Seguro Popular, or IMSS or ISSSTE and you have to get them at special location which are very hard to get. Drugs are just cheaper becasue of price fixing of US pharmaceuticals and simple supply side economics. People up north (NY, NJ, etc...) go to Canada for drugs also.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the price fixing between the government and the pharmaceutical company? Also, I believe you may be incorrect by saying medicines are cheap because of supply side economics. A fundamental theorem of supply is that supply is done at the highest price possible. This highest price however, is balanced by demand.
Whatever

United States

#44 Nov 13, 2008
The Realist wrote:
<quoted text>
I have not the slightest doubt that some El Paso residents do use loopholes to use IMSS and/or sign up for the Seguro Popular. I read somewhere that IMSS estimated that it treats about 5000 El Paso residents a year.
Wow! I am still trying to find the post where I said that medication is not being subsidized... I still can't locate it, can you help me since you are such a stellar reader, you seem to even see things people never wrote.
Whatever

United States

#45 Nov 13, 2008
And these last two comments are for Realist and Jonathan's posts.

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