US oil company donated millions to cl...

US oil company donated millions to climate sceptic groups, says Greenpeace

There are 71 comments on the Guardian Unlimited story from Mar 30, 2010, titled US oil company donated millions to climate sceptic groups, says Greenpeace. In it, Guardian Unlimited reports that:

Report identifies Koch Industries giving $73m to climate sceptic groups 'spreading inaccurate and misleading information' Greenpeace has identified Kansas-based oil firm Koch Industries as a multimillion funder of climate sceptic groups.

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LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#64 Apr 29, 2010
In the age of 'infotainment', money buys public opinion and elections. That is the reality.

And with the supreme court decision that Corporations have 'human rights' to fund elections, facts have even less voice.

It will drive an era of degrading environment and political extremism.
Earthling

Hellín, Spain

#65 Apr 29, 2010
tina anne wrote:
No surprise there. But of coursenot all the eco nuts are in rehab. Your still out and running about along with Fair Game, Swamp Mudd and a few others. Of course you haven't seen Northie, MattJ, and Peacenik around so maybe they are the ones in rehab. Then again maybe they just switch screen names and came back.
It looks like they've let Norfie out again, but whatever medication they gave him, it obviously didn't work.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#66 Apr 29, 2010
Earthling wrote:
<quoted text>It looks like they've let Norfie out again, but whatever medication they gave him, it obviously didn't work.
As usual, ad-hominem, heckling, and no reason. Guess you can't debate Northie worth a damn and have to take the low route.
Earthling

Hellín, Spain

#67 Apr 29, 2010
Thus writes LessFact, the king of ad hominem, but too dumb to realise it.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#69 Sep 18, 2012
Blast from the Past:
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GEEWIZ wrote:
IF COAL was one tenth as bad as greenies claim we +other states would not be mining it or burning it.....
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LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
Good example of the health effects of people downwind of a coal power station. Horrible. Just horrible.
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litesong wrote:
Seven of the tallest 10 chimneys in the world are coal-fired smokestacks to spread pollution over many states & even into other countries & around the world to keep the close population from falling down dead. If chimneys were ten feet high, pollution spots around every coal burning plant would devastate the local coal employee worker bees & poor, who are placed downwind of the chimneys. The tallest coal chimney is 1377 feet tall & 147 feet in its base diameter (filling a major league baseball infield)! Yes, the coal industry goes to great efforts & heights to spread their pollution to other areas, so people don't readily point fingers at coal company death equipment.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#70 Sep 18, 2012
Blast from the Past:
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LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
Really the main money comes from coal companies. They also have the biggest lobby presence and subsidies ( mining, health, rail transport, etc).
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albedodown wrote:
Coal has to arm twist the various gov'ts, so their actions to pollute many states & kill many of their worker bees & other citizens, doesn't get advertised enough to force the price of coal upward to reflect its actual economic, social & moral cost to society.
Marin Kljun

Croatia

#71 Jan 21, 2013
Rainbow seaman !
PHD

Overton, TX

#74 Jan 23, 2013
Scientific science fiction.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#75 Jan 23, 2013
litesong wrote:
Blast from the Past:
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LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
Really the main money comes from coal companies. They also have the biggest lobby presence and subsidies ( mining, health, rail transport, etc).
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albedodown wrote:
Coal has to arm twist the various gov'ts, so their actions to pollute many states & kill many of their worker bees & other citizens, doesn't get advertised enough to force the price of coal upward to reflect its actual economic, social & moral cost to society.
Correct.

In 2009, A study by the USGS (US Geological Society)

A 2009 scientific study led by scientists from Harvard University and the U.S. Geological Survey, for the first time proved that “Most of the mercury [in fish] originates from atmospheric fallout to the ocean surface and the subsequent transport of the mercury to greater ocean depths.”

They found that the ocean’s mercury levels have already risen about 30% over the last 20 years. Combined, the findings mean the Pacific Ocean will be twice as contaminated with mercury in 2050 as it was in 1995 if the emission rates continue.
For decades, scientists have tried to explain whether the methylmercury in ocean fish is natural or manmade, with some saying it originated in the ocean. USGS geochemist David Krabbenhoft and his colleagues discovered that industrial emissions are transformed into methylmercury in mid-depth ocean waters.
"This study gives us a better understanding of how dangerous levels of mercury move into our air, our water, and the food we eat, and shines new light on a major health threat to Americans and people all across the world,” U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa P. Jackson said in a statement.
see more at the USGS website
http://toxics.usgs.gov/highlights/pacific_mer...
#3 More citations.
--according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) burning the substance in power plants sends some 48 tons of mercury—a known neurotoxin—into Americans’ air and water every year (1999 figures, the latest year for which data are available). Furthermore, coal burning contributes some 40 percent of total U.S. carbon dioxide emissions.

==The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) estimates that coal mining and burning cause a whopping $62 billion worth of environmental damage every year in the U.S. alone, not to mention its profound impact on our health.
Source:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm...
PHD

Overton, TX

#76 Jan 23, 2013
More useless scientific science fiction babble.
AntiTypical

Raleigh, NC

#78 Oct 31, 2014
may want to limit the HARVARD sources

You recall one of their grads who couldn't recall how many states are in the USA?

was in 57 states ...

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