Construction Industry Admits It Will Cheat On "Immigration Reform" Law

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Several major construction industry groups are criticizing the agreement reached last week over how many low-skilled guest workers should be granted visas each year, complaining that the proposed limits were "unrealistic." The trade associations, including Associated Builders and Contractors and the National Electrical Contractors Association, ... (more) Full Story
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OMG

Kansas City, MO

#1 Apr 6, 2013
Here's your sign.....

“The "entitled" =communist.”

Since: May 10

MY MONEY, come take it.

#2 Apr 6, 2013
This is going to work the way it always been done. The project manager gets paperwork from the "legal" subcontractor who has in his crew as many illegal aliens as he needs to do the job....Nothing is going to change. This is just more "deflection with communistic intent".
Exactly

Kansas City, MO

#3 Apr 6, 2013
Jack from Bedias wrote:
This is going to work the way it always been done. The project manager gets paperwork from the "legal" subcontractor who has in his crew as many illegal aliens as he needs to do the job....Nothing is going to change. This is just more "deflection with communistic intent".
I agree.
Boknows

United States

#4 Apr 6, 2013
Its all about GREED in this whole business(construction industry).
Juan

Vero Beach, FL

#5 Apr 6, 2013
I have been in the electrical field for over 15 years and have found the undocumented worker to be as good if not better than U. S. workers. Many U. S. workers want the protection of a union, making $45 an hour taking long smoke breaks and failing to show up on Fridays and Mondays.
nope to juan the dope

Phoenix, AZ

#7 Apr 6, 2013
Juan wrote:
I have been in the electrical field for over 15 years and have found the undocumented worker to be as good if not better than U. S. workers. Many U. S. workers want the protection of a union, making $45 an hour taking long smoke breaks and failing to show up on Fridays and Mondays.
Tonight's la ratza propaganda brought to you by juan the fake electrician formerly from pearland, tx. SSDD eh juanita? Yep in spades.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

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#8 Apr 7, 2013
Juan wrote:
I have been in the electrical field for over 15 years and have found the undocumented worker to be as good if not better than U. S. workers. Many U. S. workers want the protection of a union, making $45 an hour taking long smoke breaks and failing to show up on Fridays and Mondays.
Baloney...you only think your work is as good as a licensed and bonded worker. What you don't own up to is when the customer has to hire a bonded electrician to undo the damgage that was caused by your lack of true electrical savvy. Using illegal labor usually costs the consumer much more in the end.
Juan

Vero Beach, FL

#9 Apr 7, 2013
I've never had anyone complain about my electrical work. Many times customers have good comments about my work.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

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#10 Apr 7, 2013
Juan wrote:
I've never had anyone complain about my electrical work. Many times customers have good comments about my work.
And...many times they don't right?

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#11 Apr 7, 2013
Having had lots of work done at my house by workers who may have been illegal (how would I know? I don't ask and they don't tell), I don't see any difference in work quality. It doesn't take great genius to lay tile or trim hedges- anyone with even a modicum of intelligence and a little experience can do it- doesn't matter if they are American or Mexican.

Plus, the (alleged) illegals often work harder and longer, don't take as many breaks, don't bitch and moan as much.

That is why the (alleged) illegals get hired- they do good work, they do it fast, and they do it for a good price...

“"One for the claws"”

Since: Jul 10

Sin City,U.S.A.

#12 Apr 7, 2013
Juan wrote:
I've never had anyone complain about my electrical work. Many times customers have good comments about my work.
How would they know? Your mistakes are buried in the wall. The only way they find out is when its too late and their house burned down due to an inside the wall fire. They try to sue, only to find out the electrical subcontractor seems to be out of the country indefinitely.

“"One for the claws"”

Since: Jul 10

Sin City,U.S.A.

#13 Apr 7, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
Having had lots of work done at my house by workers who may have been illegal (how would I know? I don't ask and they don't tell), I don't see any difference in work quality. It doesn't take great genius to lay tile or trim hedges- anyone with even a modicum of intelligence and a little experience can do it- doesn't matter if they are American or Mexican.
Plus, the (alleged) illegals often work harder and longer, don't take as many breaks, don't bitch and moan as much.
That is why the (alleged) illegals get hired- they do good work, they do it fast, and they do it for a good price...
Trimming hedges,I'll agree there that it doesn't take a genius. Laying tile is a different story. How do you know they used the right backer board? The right thinset? Did they grout properly? When those tiles start popping up off the floor or falling off the wall then you'll find out. It takes skill to do that job right, the first time.
Juan

Vero Beach, FL

#15 Apr 8, 2013
Smartenuff wrote:
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You work in a barrio, right ? They know nothing,idiot!
Actually I just started my own Electrical / Home Repairs Company.
Joseph

Secaucus, NJ

#16 Apr 8, 2013
Juan wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I just started my own Electrical / Home Repairs Company.
Yea we see how busy you are posting in the middle of the morning...my daughter owns a remodeling biz in NJ. She works and I mean works 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week. She has little time for trivial things like posting personal crap on the net.

So what's the name of the new biz?

“The "entitled" =communist.”

Since: May 10

MY MONEY, come take it.

#17 Apr 8, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>And...many times they don't right?
Teddy, I have to put a stop to this. I work in construction. I'm a cabinet maker. I go in at the framing stage and measure. It doesn't matter if the electricians are illegal or not. They all hate me. I'm busting sheetrock in every house and moving wiring. You need to quit giving this guy a forum. They are everywhere and I'm just one of the guys who goes in and straightens shyt out....The cabinet/trim guy is the last person doing construction in a new house. Sure the painters have to come back in but they are just doing touch-up. We are "cats covering up shyt" that's our job. I've been doing this all my life. If Juan is only making $14 an hour, that explains his worthlessness. He does not deserve the attention he gets.
Juan

Vero Beach, FL

#18 Apr 8, 2013
Joseph wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea we see how busy you are posting in the middle of the morning...my daughter owns a remodeling biz in NJ. She works and I mean works 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week. She has little time for trivial things like posting personal crap on the net.
So what's the name of the new biz?
Juan's Electrical and Home Repairs.
Juan

Vero Beach, FL

#19 Apr 8, 2013
Jack from Bedias wrote:
<quoted text>Teddy, I have to put a stop to this. I work in construction. I'm a cabinet maker. I go in at the framing stage and measure. It doesn't matter if the electricians are illegal or not. They all hate me. I'm busting sheetrock in every house and moving wiring. You need to quit giving this guy a forum. They are everywhere and I'm just one of the guys who goes in and straightens shyt out....The cabinet/trim guy is the last person doing construction in a new house. Sure the painters have to come back in but they are just doing touch-up. We are "cats covering up shyt" that's our job. I've been doing this all my life. If Juan is only making $14 an hour, that explains his worthlessness. He does not deserve the attention he gets.
I don't know of anyone who has ever had a problem with my work.
racer42

Alameda, CA

#20 Apr 8, 2013
Juan wrote:
I've never had anyone complain about my electrical work. Many times customers have good comments about my work.
How many of your "customers" actually survived your "electrical" work?

“The "entitled" =communist.”

Since: May 10

MY MONEY, come take it.

#21 Apr 8, 2013
Juan wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know of anyone who has ever had a problem with my work.
You would'nt know. I fix it. This is a electrician thing not an illegal alien thing. None of you can get the hoodvent microwave right. The same goes for undercounter lighting....Upper cabinets are set at 54inches all around the world. None of you guys get it right..... I dont GAF about your code, the bottom of the microwave hoodvent has to be 24inchs from the stove. Get it through your head.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

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#22 Apr 9, 2013
Jack from Bedias wrote:
<quoted text>Teddy, I have to put a stop to this. I work in construction. I'm a cabinet maker. I go in at the framing stage and measure. It doesn't matter if the electricians are illegal or not. They all hate me. I'm busting sheetrock in every house and moving wiring. You need to quit giving this guy a forum. They are everywhere and I'm just one of the guys who goes in and straightens shyt out....The cabinet/trim guy is the last person doing construction in a new house. Sure the painters have to come back in but they are just doing touch-up. We are "cats covering up shyt" that's our job. I've been doing this all my life. If Juan is only making $14 an hour, that explains his worthlessness. He does not deserve the attention he gets.
You have just proven what I have been saying...they may get the work done more quickly, but it's not up to snuff! Thanks! Somebody always has to come in and rectify their messes.

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