3 options may make Delaware County road safer | The Columbus Dispatch

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S. Old State Road drivers and residents can give engineers their thoughts on the crash-prone road at an open house tonight.

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Linda

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3 ways to make this road safer:
1. Close the road
2. Allow only horse and buggy's on road
3. Allow only pedistrians and bicycles on road.
Uncommon sense

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They don't say what type so I'm guessing most are fender benders from cars stopped to turn into one of the many McMansion neighborhoods along old state.

So I would say the turn lane would help or roundabouts.
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Simple cure would be to make the road as calm as it was back in the 70's like it should have stayed.

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Is this a contest to see who can be the best curmudgeon?

Regardless, I am sure the data will show what I see travelling this road 2+ times per day: 90% of the accidents are caused by southbound traffic turning eastbound on Polaris Parkway. Cars turning left into Speedway, the car wash, or the vets office are frequently hit by southbound traffic due to the blind turn caused by stacked-up cars turning eastbound on to Polaris.

A simple solution would be to expand the single turn lane to two lanes, and put a barrier so that northbound traffic can not turn left into speedway and cars exiting speedway cannot turn northbound on Old State.
The end is near

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The problem with South Old State is too many cars, and not enough road. This area is another prime example of building too many houses without building enough road capacity to handle the traffic. How many times do we see this in the Columbus suburbs? Pretty much always. The accidents in this area are 1) rear end collisions from inattentive drivers in stopped traffic, and 2) front end collisions from vehicles turning onto Old State in front of oncoming traffic. A contributing factor is that the posted speed limit on South Old State is 50 mph. The Delaware county and Orange Twp engineers already know what the problems are, they don't need ignorant solutions from people who have never analyzed traffic patterns or designed roads.
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Want a safer road? Slow down and hang up the phone!
Dan Gleesack

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This road is the poster child for urban sprawl with zero planning. The infrastructure is running at least 10 to 15 years behind the private development of subdivisions. And they've given the developers free reign to do as they please. None of the subdivisions are interconnected, so everyone has to go out onto S. Old State Rd. to go anywhere. If you need a gallon of milk, then you have to drive on S. Old State Rd. to get it. Brilliant.
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This is crazy. The developers should have been required to improve the infrastructure required to accomidate the increased demand created by the developed land. The developer should have passed this cost onto the homeowners and the gov't should have benefited from the increased tax revenue. Instead, the developer made a quick buck, tax revenue was lost and the cost of improving the infrastructure is being passed on to the majority of the country which will never even see the road, let alone use it.
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Jul 20, 2011
 
A traffic light at Fancher and SR 605.
over development

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I'm going to guess that the intersection at Old State and Polaris is the primary culprit. That thing is a disaster and takes forever to get anywhere. Poor planning all around, and blame should go largely to all the private developers who put up house after house after house without and proper planning.

And the last thing I would ever do is call all those identical houses "McMansions".
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A fourth option which is stillcheaper would be to ban cars from driving on the road.
Fred

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A safer road would basically be all the boogie flight people that moved to Delaware County going back south to the places they came from.
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The end is near wrote:
The problem with South Old State is too many cars, and not enough road. This area is another prime example of building too many houses without building enough road capacity to handle the traffic. How many times do we see this in the Columbus suburbs? Pretty much always. The accidents in this area are 1) rear end collisions from inattentive drivers in stopped traffic, and 2) front end collisions from vehicles turning onto Old State in front of oncoming traffic. A contributing factor is that the posted speed limit on South Old State is 50 mph. The Delaware county and Orange Twp engineers already know what the problems are, they don't need ignorant solutions from people who have never analyzed traffic patterns or designed roads.
I agree, but the second a decision is made, doesnt matter what decision, all the traffic engineers in Orange Township will come out of the woodwork spouting off. I say the just grind it up back to stone and let all those Lexus owners figure their own ways around.
Angryveteran

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First off it would help with a total understanding of current Ohio law. It is against the law to make any turn across a solid yellow line. So if one is turning across asolid yellow line he or she is in violation of the left of center law here in Ohio. Now having said that; it is never enforced. In fact similar laws; such as distracting driving; are not enforced either. in fact law enforcement many times are the biggest offenders. You see we make new laws; but do little to nothing to enforce them. Put down the doughnuts; lay down the cell phone or Ipod and start writing tickets. Warning tickets first time around if you prefer; and then big money tickets to repeat offenders.
delasux

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Jul 20, 2011
 
One_Bad_Apple wrote:
Is this a contest to see who can be the best curmudgeon?
Regardless, I am sure the data will show what I see travelling this road 2+ times per day: 90% of the accidents are caused by southbound traffic turning eastbound on Polaris Parkway. Cars turning left into Speedway, the car wash, or the vets office are frequently hit by southbound traffic due to the blind turn caused by stacked-up cars turning eastbound on to Polaris.
A simple solution would be to expand the single turn lane to two lanes, and put a barrier so that northbound traffic can not turn left into speedway and cars exiting speedway cannot turn northbound on Old State.
Tell that to the Speedway and car wash owners. I'm sure they are going to love it. While your at it, lets just put the barrier all the way down the middle of the road so no one can turn.
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As far as those who posted about the development problems; I would agree. I remember when Polaris was first built and it was a four lane road that was going to handle a mall and all the other businesses that would follow. Back in my younger days; many years ago; the city or county would make the developer put in curbs, sidewalks, storm sewers; and traffic lights as well as widen and improve existing road ways to handle the traffic. paid for at the expense of the developer. Today the cities and counties are fightig each other to see who can give the most to developers; at taxpayers expense; to come to their area. This is pure non sense. That is why you now have strip malls setting nearly empty; or empty; and those who have a business or two; are usually not the kind the neighborhood had hoped for when promised the new centers. This is called "Government Gone Wild"; and it needs to stop. No more new strip malls or shopping malls. Revitalize those that have gone the way of downfall and despair. Rebuild and/or refurbish what we have and improve the roads and sewers at the expense of developers looking to get rich quick.
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here's what is happening...
People want to move out of the city to live in the country.
Fields are turned into subdivisions.
They start complaining about the smell of farms and the noise of tracters.
Stop signs get replaced by traffic lights.
Schools and shopping centers get built to make it convenient for the people 'living in the country'
Roads are widened to handle the additional people who wanted to "move out to the country".
When that is done, people decide they want to move out to the country.
Lewis Center

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This portion of the road is in Orange Township and under Ohio Law Townships have limited zoning authority. They can't force developers to make infrastructure improvements to already existing infrastructure whereas cities have considerable more leverage. The township can't even require trees be planted along the street. Thus the developers don't plant them. Take a look next time you drive through the area.

As for the Speedway, Vet Clinic and the Carwash they all have driveway access to Polaris Parkway. Their customers don't need to block traffic while waiting to make a left turn off of Old State.(this has caused traffic to back up and block traffic on Polaris Parkway.)
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LC, you're right on. How many times have I seen vehicles that want to turn into Speedway or the car wash, instead of either turning left on Polaris from SOS, or just continuing on west on Polrais, instead go north on SOS and try to turn left into Speedway or the car wash, which just backs up traffic (now, if you're going east on Polaris, you have no choice).

Same for those people going south on SOS or east on Polaris that want to turn into the CVS just south of Polaris. Instead of turning left onto Polaris from SOS (where there is a left-turn light that is rather long), or if on Polaris, just continuing on to the CVS driveway just east of SOS, they instead turn south onto SOS, then try to turn left into CVS, which messes up traffic going northbound.
Crowbar

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And as for the 50 MPH speed limit on South Old State, there's no point in changing that, since nobody goes that fast anyway. Always too much traffic.

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