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Apr 8, 2008

Aviation company, Korte Co. announce $4 billion Cahokia airpark office development

The Korte Co. and a group of investors have announced plans to develop a $4 billion luxury office park in Cahokia that would bring international business interest. via Belleville News

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We all know Frank Bergman is the best thing that has happened to this Village since 'running water'... multiple new buisnesses now in place and soon to be here, expanded tax base, paved streets, YMCA, reorganization of the Park/ Golf Course, and his never ending endevers to eliminate waste and corruption in various Village Departments that we taxpayers are paying for. Keep up the struggle----
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When you turn on your radio to listen to the "oldies" there's one thing that pops into your mind immediately. You've heard this song before. It never wavers from the original.
This so called "miraculous project" of Bergmans might one day change it's tune but for right now, it's the same words... "See what I'm gonna do!"
I havent seen any progress on this for the past 5 years. At least put a shovel into the ground Frank so we can see some progress. Is this where the 4M worth of TIF money is going? I guess we're going to pay them to come here too without approval from the citizens like you did with the YMCA?
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Repeat wrote:
We all know Frank Bergman is the best thing that has happened to this Village since 'running water'... multiple new buisnesses now in place and soon to be here, expanded tax base, paved streets, YMCA, reorganization of the Park/ Golf Course, and his never ending endevers to eliminate waste and corruption in various Village Departments that we taxpayers are paying for. Keep up the struggle----
C'mon, this is just an idea o a piece of paper, don'y get too escited until something really happens with it. And please list the "multiple businesses" you were talking about. Frank takes alot of heat and you listig these places could really benefit him. What are they and please put them in alphabetical order.
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Apr 9, 2008
 
Look south what about the grand Dupo business park by Clayco where is it? Just on paper no concrete or steel on the ground!
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THERE IS NO WAY THIS IS GETTING STARTED UNTIL FEMA BRINGS OUT THE NEW FLOOD MAPS - DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH FLOOD INSURANCE THEY WOULD HAVE TO CARRY ! FIGURE A STANDARD $100,000 HOME IN ZONE AH IS GOING TO BE $1,000 PER YEAR .- THIS IS 4 BILLION !SAME THING CLAYCO IS DOING IN DUPO
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Apr 9, 2008
 
If this happens, are they going to buy out the homes in St. Louis Gardens? It is sad when a jet flies by and knocks a picture off the wall.
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Repeat wrote:
We all know Frank Bergman is the best thing that has happened to this Village since 'running water'... multiple new buisnesses now in place and soon to be here, expanded tax base, paved streets, YMCA, reorganization of the Park/ Golf Course, and his never ending endevers to eliminate waste and corruption in various Village Departments that we taxpayers are paying for. Keep up the struggle----
I am aware of new buisnesses and developments in place and pending in the Cahokia/Sauget area. Quite impresive. It will probably grow faster and larger than the 255/111 coridor in the Pontoon/Wood River area. What I am not aware of is the "corruption in varouis Village Departments", this could slow down, if not eliminate progress. What type of corruption are we talking about here?
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This is not a Bergman idea. He had nothing to do with this The county Economic Development did this project. They just let him know as a courtesy. Because the land is in Cahokia. But owned by Parks Bi State Development. And corruption. It's trouble it startes with T and ends with E and I do mean trouble. Right here in Cahokia. And it all is fueled by Bergman.
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Apr 9, 2008
 
Let start with poker machines fueling the st clair county political machine payoffs and favors for property tax brakes and the list goes on. Do you really think all those machines in every Cahokia bar and club don't pay out? Many know who is at the top of the poker machine club,Please someone post a name! Property taxes- Golf fundraisers and pay offs these thing will make your taxes go down just donate and see. Someone needs to call the FBI put the guilty people behind bars!
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This is not a Bergman idea. He had nothing to do with this The county Economic Development did this project. They just let him know as a courtesy. Because the land is in Cahokia. But owned by Parks Bi State Development. And corruption. It's trouble it startes with T and ends with E and I do mean trouble. Right here in Cahokia. And it all is fueled by Bergman.
Maybe one of you guys up in the county should send Bergman a memo and let him know this wasnt his idea.
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How much you wanna bet when this hits the TV news stations (if it ever does) he'll have his fat a$$ face right there in front of the camera claiming victory.
Too bad "his woman" in Washington cant do that with the democratic president candidacy. Guess you wont get your job as her staff member now huh Frank? You know... the job you ran around telling everyone that you were going to get when Hillary went into office? Dang...thought we were gonna get rid of you.
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Let start with poker machines fueling the st clair county political machine payoffs and favors for property tax brakes and the list goes on. Do you really think all those machines in every Cahokia bar and club don't pay out? Many know who is at the top of the poker machine club,Please someone post a name! Property taxes- Golf fundraisers and pay offs these thing will make your taxes go down just donate and see. Someone needs to call the FBI put the guilty people behind bars!
FBI yeah right.
I'd be more concerned with Faimount City then poker machines in bars.
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I am aware of new buisnesses and developments in place and pending in the Cahokia/Sauget area. Quite impresive. It will probably grow faster and larger than the 255/111 coridor in the Pontoon/Wood River area. What I am not aware of is the "corruption in varouis Village Departments", this could slow down, if not eliminate progress. What type of corruption are we talking about here?
Small potatoes really. Fees to the Village that were previously unaccounted for. That has been remedied. Lack of efficiencies of various support Departments. Personnel are slowly but surely being held accountable. Internal issues really that have not and should not effect the growth of the 157/3/255 foot print.
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ya, ya, ya, ya & that's why Frank & Ms Halter has most of there family working for the village. Believe or not at one time Cahokia had a Nepotism ordinance, I wonder when Frank secretly eliminated that ordinance & why we the citizen didn't have a say so in it.
Like it has been asked before NAME the businesses that have came to Cahokia other then the Pay Day Loan companies & hair/nail saloons since Frank has been in office cause I & others would love to know where they are all at. We don't care about what "MIGHT BE" coming we want to know what he has brought in since being mayor.
Hell Frank has always promised us a sit down restuarant, but other then fast food, rice houses & 2 small sit down restuarants we don't have anywhere to eat out if we want. Nothing like giving St Louis our cash for a meal.
Then we have the "never ending endevers to eliminate waste and corruption in various Village Departments". So pay tell us all where it's at. Some us would love to know where Frank has put the $4million in TIF that seems to be missing & he would tell us where it is.
So come on "Repeat" answer some question for us, it can't be all that hard since you seem to "Know Everything".
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So please enlighten us all to what departments you are talking about.
And you talk about "Lack of efficiencies" I find it amazing that the people who are on a salary based pay(not hourly wage) doesn't have to show when the got to work or when they leave. For all we know they are going to the doctor, staying at home watching TV or just being late all the time(while being paid) since they don't have to clock in like the hourly workers.
It's time to PUT UP or SHUT UP, show us some PROOF of what you're saying, because untill you do you're just full of hot air & sh!t.
It is what it is idiot. I am not your teacher. It will be white day in ESTL when I start answering to morons like you. Wise people will benefit from hard work and investment. People like you will bitch and moan while you rot in your ignorance.
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ya, ya, ya, ya & that's why Frank & Ms Halter has most of there family working for the village. Believe or not at one time Cahokia had a Nepotism ordinance, I wonder when Frank secretly eliminated that ordinance & why we the citizen didn't have a say so in it.
Like it has been asked before NAME the businesses that have came to Cahokia other then the Pay Day Loan companies & hair/nail saloons since Frank has been in office cause I & others would love to know where they are all at. We don't care about what "MIGHT BE" coming we want to know what he has brought in since being mayor.
Hell Frank has always promised us a sit down restuarant, but other then fast food, rice houses & 2 small sit down restuarants we don't have anywhere to eat out if we want. Nothing like giving St Louis our cash for a meal.
Then we have the "never ending endevers to eliminate waste and corruption in various Village Departments". So pay tell us all where it's at. Some us would love to know where Frank has put the $4million in TIF that seems to be missing & he would tell us where it is.
So come on "Repeat" answer some question for us, it can't be all that hard since you seem to "Know Everything".
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So please enlighten us all to what departments you are talking about.
And you talk about "Lack of efficiencies" I find it amazing that the people who are on a salary based pay(not hourly wage) doesn't have to show when the got to work or when they leave. For all we know they are going to the doctor, staying at home watching TV or just being late all the time(while being paid) since they don't have to clock in like the hourly workers.
It's time to PUT UP or SHUT UP, show us some PROOF of what you're saying, because untill you do you're just full of hot air & sh!t.
On another topic there was 9 million dollars in the TIF fund and this was in 2003.
Now there is around $750,000.00 left. Where is the money. I know 2 million went to Nova Plaza, what happened to the rest?
Since the people of Cahokia pay this money shouldn't we have a say in how it is spent.
This really should be invesigated and the TIF be stopped if they are not willing to account for the money.
Spend the money on your family or your home and the hell with TIF.
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It is what it is idiot. I am not your teacher. It will be white day in ESTL when I start answering to morons like you. Wise people will benefit from hard work and investment. People like you will bitch and moan while you rot in your ignorance.
Dude,,,its really simple.. 2 times now you have been asked by seperate people, to name 1 thing that he has done positive in this city. Just name one. You started this topic, and gave him a ball massage, on how great he was....people responded by asking a simple request. Besides, Yolandas Weave Shack, Yao Mings Cream of Sumyunguy's chinese restaurant, and a YMCA that nobody wanted, that has at most 15 cars there at its peak time.....Name one business or good family style restaurant, that the man you like to hang from his privates, has done....

JUST ONE..... then you will have credibility....
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On another topic there was 9 million dollars in the TIF fund and this was in 2003.
Now there is around $750,000.00 left. Where is the money. I know 2 million went to Nova Plaza, what happened to the rest?
Since the people of Cahokia pay this money shouldn't we have a say in how it is spent.
This really should be invesigated and the TIF be stopped if they are not willing to account for the money.
Spend the money on your family or your home and the hell with TIF.
No,No,No. Wiser people than you will decide how government monies are spent. All you have to do is whine, cry, bitch, and moan so the movers and shakers have something to converse and laugh about during martini hour. Keep up the good example of ignorant trailer trash. Thank you!
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Dude,,,its really simple.. 2 times now you have been asked by seperate people, to name 1 thing that he has done positive in this city. Just name one. You started this topic, and gave him a ball massage, on how great he was....people responded by asking a simple request. Besides, Yolandas Weave Shack, Yao Mings Cream of Sumyunguy's chinese restaurant, and a YMCA that nobody wanted, that has at most 15 cars there at its peak time.....Name one business or good family style restaurant, that the man you like to hang from his privates, has done....
JUST ONE..... then you will have credibility....
Don't 'Dude' me, shit for brains. My credibility is in the bank(s). While your 'inquiring', I am making money. I guess you are not. I cant help you. You have to help yourself----or are you a Democrat?
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"It is what it is idiot", great come back. So what's the matter?? You can't show us proof can you? I'm not bitching all I'm doing is asking simple questions that even you should be able to read & answer since you seem to know so much. So put up or shut up & show us some proof, because if you can't all you're doing is wasting our time w/your worthless BS like so many others that have been praising Frank.
You could look thru dozens of similar threads and hundreds of posts. People that support Frank come on here and spew info about how great he is and all of the things he has done for Cahokia. I think it is great he has people stand up for him. The only problem is, when people ask his staunch supporters to supply them with information about all of the great things he has done, they either don't reply, start dogging the people, or simply say they are above answering the persons question. Frank has a tough village to find positive in anything, but his demeanor and attitude give people no choice but to assume he is deceitful. I personally cannot say that he is, but his supporters do him no good coming on her running their YAPS.
Show us the proof && then & only then will we believe you or is that hard to pull the proof out of your ass.
Moron's like me, yea sure. Then I guess you're calling EVERY TAX PAYER in Cahokia who would like to know the answers to those questions an idiot & a moron, that's pretty good coming from a sheep.
You could look thru dozens of similar threads and hundreds of posts. People that support Frank come on here and spew info about how great he is and all of the things he has done for Cahokia. I think it is great he has people stand up for him. The only problem is, when people ask his staunch supporters to supply them with information about all of the great things he has done, they either don't reply, start dogging the people, or simply say they are above answering the persons question. Frank has a tough village to find positive in anything, but his demeanor and attitude give people no choice but to assume he is deceitful. I personally cannot say that he is, but his supporters do him no good coming on her running their YAPS.
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Hell Larry I can name only one & that is the window company(I think thats what it is) the relocated from Dupo to Cahokia on RT3 & I'll give that to Frank, but I wonder what it cost Cahokia to bring it here. BUT other then that I see NOTHING other then our $$$$$ missing and crap we did ask for.
Its not your money anymore---forget about and get in the free cheese line!
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