Foreign workers on London sites

Foreign workers on London sites

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Big Bryan

Bradford, UK

#1 Feb 21, 2006
I am a steelfixer with over 20 years' experience and I would be interested to hear other views from the construction world, not just steelfixers, on the flood of foreign workers onto London (and probably elsewhere) building sites. It seems to me that there will come a day in the not too distant future (and I'm seeing signs of it now) when it will no longer be possible for British construction workers to get employment on London building sites due to all jobs being taken over by foreign immigrants, as like as not with no work permits. I can command a wage of up to £150 per day due to my skill and experience and on day one will find myself working alongside foreign men whose ability and knowledge to do the job is quite frankly laughable. They cannot even speak basic English which just makes the health and safety requirements on a building site (compulsory induction at the start of employment amongst other things) a complete joke - at best unsafe, at worst illegal. Why would any rightminded person take these people on? The answer is these men will work for something like £50 per day - say no more. From recent experience, it seems to me that your experienced steelfixer (ES) will get taken on at the start of a job at a justified wage of, say,£150 per day and a number of foreigners will be taken on alongside at, from what I can gather, approximately £50 per day, a big difference in the pockets of the big cheese bosses. ES is then expected to show the foreigners the ropes (or at least let them observe) before getting paid off himself after a matter of weeks in order to keep the foreigners on at a pittance of a wage thereby saving the bosses a large amount of money. These men, as I said before, tie with BOTH hands (other steelfixers will relate to this!), cannot speak English and they are responsible for the basic structure of a building! Not a very safe option I would have thought. I can't help thinking it will all end in tears, and not just on the part of the jobless thousands of British workers. If you're not working the half shift this Saturday, you will know the reason why! I concede there are foreign workers who are an asset to the country workwise, but the vast majority, in my experience, are not. Anyone else got a view on this?
kelly

Natural Bridge, Australia

#2 Mar 23, 2006
Yep we got the same problem here in Australia.Workers from the phillipines are promised big money to work here.When they arrive, end up working for less.The jobs are not listed in local papers here, but are listed over there.Wonder why people can't find work here, there's your answer.It all comes down to Greed.In sydney it will be hard to spot the aussie tiler,gyprocker,solid renderer etc,all asians mate; not good, not good at all.
the invisible hand

Dublin, Ireland

#3 Mar 29, 2006
free market competition my friend

maybe u shdnt be paid £150 a day if the market decides there are people who will work for less. eventually the market will adjust to the increased supply of workers - probably to somewhere between £50 and £150 a day by your reckoning.

Until then I would suggest promoting your unique skill and language capability to your (prospective) employer as much as possible to command the highest wage possible.
mick roche

Ireland

#4 Apr 24, 2006
cork ireland full of romanians lithuanians .they are not fixers not even niphands and they are taking all our jobs .may as well get
out of the game than teach the **********
naj

London, UK

#5 May 4, 2006
WOULD YOU LIKE TO EARN BETWEEN £50-£5000+ WORKING PARTIME WITH FULLTIME PAY. WORK WHEN YOU WANT.

01212753967 (24HR)

ALSO RECRUITING IN GERMANY, HOLLAND AND IRELAND
naj

London, UK

#6 May 4, 2006
WOULD YOU LIKE TO EARN BETWEEN £50-£5000+ WORKING PARTIME WITH FULLTIME PAY. WORK WHEN YOU WANT.

01212753967 (24HR)
EMAIL: [email protected]

ALSO RECRUITING IN GERMANY, HOLLAND AND IRELAND
eshi

Colombo, Sri Lanka

#7 May 17, 2006
You all sounds like B****Y RACISTS to me!!!!
WATTO

Duffy, Australia

#8 Jun 29, 2006
MATE SAME THING HERE IN AUS THE PORTUGESE FORMWORKERS AND COOK ISLAND STEELIES COME IN ROUGH AS GUTS WONT STAND UP FOR OUR HARD EARNED CONDITIONS WILL WORK FOR HALF THE WAGE HOW ARE WE MEANT TO GET THE TONNAGE RATE UP FOR ALL STEELIES WHEN YOUVE GOT ONE COMPANY WITH SLAVE LABOR BEING ABLE TO UNDERQUOTE BECAUSE THEY HAVE IMMIGRANTS TO SCARED TO ASK FOR THE GOING RATE IM A STEELFIXER AND WORK ALONG SIDE THESE GUYS EVERY DAY AND I TRY TO TELL THEM THEY ARE GETTING RIPPED OFF BUT THEY DONT CARE IT MAKES ME WONDER IF THEY ARE EVEN LEGAL.
Jonny one tie

Glasgow, UK

#9 Sep 8, 2006
ours is not to question why
ours is just to bend and tie
John

Shenyang, China

#10 Sep 11, 2006
I am from China.I would like to introduce more about China.

I am the sales manager of Midland trading co.,ltd which specialise in the line of casting & forging.the formwork accessory,hose clamp,wire mesh is our competitive products.Such as tie rod,flang nut,wing nut,plate rib washer and so on.

welcome to contact me to have more detials.
[email protected]
johnny old nips

London, UK

#11 Jan 20, 2007
only a strong union and every fixer to have written qualifications will help . dump the lump its a bluffers paradise. join U.C.A.T.T.today
40 mill lil

Saint Helier, Jersey

#12 Feb 10, 2007
same in jersey. polaks, totally incompetant. working for £50, or less a shift. cant tie. cant read drawings, but working whilst the fixers are doing nought. grim times ahead
form worka

Watford, UK

#13 Feb 27, 2007
workin in leicester as a formworker full of romanians dont speak a word of english puttin us outa work why should young lads want to get into the game wen these C***s are makin them work for pennys. also the pakis taken over the concrete work no job for the english boys there no good here fair enuff if they were doctors or clever but fuck um vote BNP n go paki bashin
Phil

Surry Hills, Australia

#14 Mar 5, 2007
Don't tar everyone with the same brush I work with shitloads of Maori and Islander Steelies and most of them are top Steelies and command wages as good as or better than mine.
lee usa

United States

#15 Mar 6, 2007
what a bunch of babies,do you all need to be changed?
john north wales

UK

#16 Mar 21, 2007
the same here with the irish, come here for the money and stand there smoking roll ups all day while everyone else does the work around them, then the minute the gaffer shows up its heads down tying away.
mike properfixer galway

Ireland

#17 Apr 24, 2007
The thing with steelfixing is its easy to start because all ya need is a knipex & tape & your away.If your any good of a fixer you'll survive in any environment no matter what the completion,advanced fixers know how to read drawings and organize.......mike world traveled fixer
paul

Cheltenham, Australia

#18 May 1, 2007
13yrs experience in australia an new zealand.plan reader.travelling to uk shortly an just wondering,if anyone knows a good company to work for.contact me at [email protected]
calgary

Salmon Arm, Canada

#19 May 14, 2007
John wrote:
I am from China.I would like to introduce more about China.
I am the sales manager of Midland trading co.,ltd which specialise in the line of casting & forging.the formwork accessory,hose clamp,wire mesh is our competitive products.Such as tie rod,flang nut,wing nut,plate rib washer and so on.
welcome to contact me to have more detials.
[email protected]
I am Canadian I am from Canada our country is fludded with enough crap from China must be nice to undercut the rest of world,No? Now we have Chinese workers hear dieing in construction accidents google CNRL site accident u guys cant build shit!
ipod45

Oswego, NY

#20 May 15, 2007
wow! sound like u s of a(usa)

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