Deadline Nears for Albemarle Residents Waiting on HUD Vouchers

Full story: NBC29 Charlottesville

Federal red tape could force formerly homeless people from Albemarle County back out on the streets.
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happy renter

Crozet, VA

#1 Jul 3, 2013
This place is so expensive to live in I wonder if subsidized housing is doing anybody a favor in the long run.
Hoo_s talking

Charlottesville, VA

#2 Jul 3, 2013
happy renter wrote:
This place is so expensive to live in I wonder if subsidized housing is doing anybody a favor in the long run.
Do you have any idea how much it costs the taxpayer per individual when they are unhoused. HUD Sec Donovan has stated it costs about $45K per year per person due to the misuse of resources : medical care, criminal justice system and law enforcement. Even some of those figures quoted in the story are much less than was originally agreed to because some individuals are receiving an income and are paying more of their money ( and less AC dollars) towards the rent.

Permanent supportive housing works.
Riverside Bluntster

Crozet, VA

#3 Jul 3, 2013
Hoo_s talking wrote:
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Do you have any idea how much it costs the taxpayer per individual when they are unhoused. HUD Sec Donovan has stated it costs about $45K per year per person due to the misuse of resources : medical care, criminal justice system and law enforcement. Even some of those figures quoted in the story are much less than was originally agreed to because some individuals are receiving an income and are paying more of their money ( and less AC dollars) towards the rent.
Permanent supportive housing works.
So send them to rural areas and save even more money. Warehousing the dead weight in high cost urban areas makes little sense.
amicus curiae

Crozet, VA

#4 Jul 3, 2013
Nobody that owes court fines should be lounging in public housing on the public's dime. If they owe money put their disability and SSI checks on the easy monthly payment plan. That by itself just might inspire a few to get a part time job.

The tenants at the Crossings represent about 800 years of suspended jail sentences at district court.
Hoo_s talking

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Jul 3, 2013
amicus curiae wrote:
Nobody that owes court fines should be lounging in public housing on the public's dime. If they owe money put their disability and SSI checks on the easy monthly payment plan. That by itself just might inspire a few to get a part time job.
The tenants at the Crossings represent about 800 years of suspended jail sentences at district court.
It is obvious that you subscribe to the stereotypes that say an individual has to meet your litmus test for survival. Do some reading about the chronically homeless to understand why supportive housing is the way to bring individuals back into society.
Hoo_s talking

Charlottesville, VA

#6 Jul 3, 2013
Riverside Bluntster wrote:
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So send them to rural areas and save even more money. Warehousing the dead weight in high cost urban areas makes little sense.
Oops! obvious you dont know that there is a problem with rural homelessness as well in this county so your less than stellar response means you go to the back of the class. Having people near services is exactly what you need with a supportive housing development.
Common Sense

Charlottesville, VA

#7 Jul 3, 2013
Hoo_s talking wrote:
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Oops! obvious you dont know that there is a problem with rural homelessness as well in this county so your less than stellar response means you go to the back of the class. Having people near services is exactly what you need with a supportive housing development.
Great then let THEM support themselves and let those of us who have jobs keep our money for ourselves!
Hoo_s talking

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Jul 3, 2013
Common Sense wrote:
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Great then let THEM support themselves and let those of us who have jobs keep our money for ourselves!
But you wont keep your money for yourself if people constantly access public resources inappropriately. Think about the time it takes a patrol officer to bring someone to jail for drunk in public, the cost of staying overnight in jail, the booking process, the process to set up a court date, etc etc etc, not to mention health care which is mostly obtained thru the ER ( most expensive resource). Its easy to say "get a job" will cure the problem. Hope your company is never sold and the job goes with it or your home is destroyed and your only shelter is what can be provided by red cross, or you have an extremely costly health crisis that insurance will not cover or only partially, etc etc, nay of these can put you on the path to a downward spiral. IF that were to happen, supportive housing would be a way back.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#9 Jul 3, 2013
What a bunch of idiots on the previous posts. This is a national epidemic brought on by elitists in DC and Wall St. Regardless, this problem is occurring all over the world with no foreseeable answer. So get used to it and practice what your dumbarse bible preaches.
Crack Scooter

Charlottesville, VA

#10 Jul 4, 2013
A helping hand is one thing but a life on the dole is another. Nobody should be in public housing for more than a year; that's plenty of time to make plans for living elsewhere, perhaps with family or moving to a lower cost location.

Most of what is in the Crossings has their lives chronicled in the court websites. A year should be the maximum. For those that are old and have actually worked during their lives social services and Region Ten can make housing arrangements. The drunks, druggies and social parasites in their thirties and forties need a cap on their free ride.
Crack Scooter

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Jul 4, 2013
Hoo_s talking wrote:
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Oops! obvious you dont know that there is a problem with rural homelessness as well in this county so your less than stellar response means you go to the back of the class. Having people near services is exactly what you need with a supportive housing development.
Services are a lot cheaper in rural areas than in metro areas like Charlottesville, northern Virginia, Richmond and Norfolk area so his premise holds true.
Crack Scooter

Charlottesville, VA

#12 Jul 4, 2013
Hoo_s talking wrote:
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It is obvious that you subscribe to the stereotypes that say an individual has to meet your litmus test for survival. Do some reading about the chronically homeless to understand why supportive housing is the way to bring individuals back into society.
They never wanted to be a part of society that works and makes a contribution so they act surprised when the lady at the plexiglas window tells them that a 60 or 65 year old substance abuser that has 7 quarters of coverage for his entire worthless existence doesn't qualify for a social security check.
Crack Scooter

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Jul 4, 2013
Hoo_s talking wrote:
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It is obvious that you subscribe to the stereotypes that say an individual has to meet your litmus test for survival. Do some reading about the chronically homeless to understand why supportive housing is the way to bring individuals back into society.
The work histories, or rather the lack of them, bear the stereotypes out. I see the same faces in the free breakfast lines that I saw 20 years ago. The success rate of Charlottesville socialism for motivating people to start working again is probably five per cent if that. The so called successes are few and far between. Want proof? How many of the Lee Park sunbathers and library magazine rack regulars are now back at work? Welfare and arrogantly naive socialism have become a hallmark of Charlottesville. Public housing has merely enabled the career drunks, druggies and work dodgers to stay indoors on the public dollar while they refine their lifelong habits.

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