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Floridian wrote:

What jobs are left in Florida, service jobs....service jobs, service jobs
Paying no more than $10 bucks a hour....how can people live off that....
My job will be going overseas in the fall....accounting ...go figure...may have to move to ATL to find a decent accounting position... companies in FLA wants to pay under $45K for accountants...they must be out of their minds.....

Isn't "accounting" a service? The whole country is becoming a service economy. Service includes more than just burger flipping.

[Captain Croinch]

Buffalochik wrote:

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Listen dick for brains, no kidding this is capitalism. A good thing I am on this forum learning so much from your useless rants. We are succeeding. I am not complaining that his job pays less, just stating a fact. I am complaining that American jobs are being sent overseas, and that they are laying off older worker ( not that 50 is old) I wonder how you will be yacking off once it happens to you. I am sure you will be grateful when it is your turn to get laid off. In your case, they will probably just fire you, realizing what a moron you are.

I've been laid off plenty you old cow.

It's no one's fault but mine.

So, again...let me get your blame complex correct.

It's bad for companies to send jobs overseas?

So, when you go to a store do you pay for the priciest things you can find or the cheapest?

Don't bothering answering.....I know the answer.

Everyone in this country is out for themselves. You cannot shift your anger towards an employer when they are out for themselves too.

People get mad at Walmart for putting mom and pops out of business and having a monopoly on any small towns wages, but not so mad that they'd consider paying more elsewhere as a political statement or protest.

It's your own fault for becoming obsolete. Not your employers, not your governments.

It's amazing how alleged hard working Americans turn into spineless communists the second things don't go their way.

[BECOME A FIREMEN]

Kenny Schecter wrote:

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How much time in your life has been lost on your silly internet vendetta that no one takes seriously?

Why pay for a Ferrari when all you need is a Honda?

You live on 60% less than you did before? Wow! So money and value is important to you?? How come when it's important to an employer, they are evil??

[BECOME A FIREMEN]

Floridian wrote:

What jobs are left in Florida, service jobs....service jobs, service jobs
Paying no more than $10 bucks a hour....how can people live off that....
My job will be going overseas in the fall....accounting ...go figure...may have to move to ATL to find a decent accounting position... companies in FLA wants to pay under $45K for accountants...they must be out of their minds.....

There is a great deamand for firemen. Starting pay over $45,000 per year, health benefits only a government could afford, a huge ($5 million) pension program after 20 years. Retire at age 40 to 45 and never work another day in your life. Must be able to work 8 days a month.

Only stupid people go to college.

[Captain Croinch]

BECOME A FIREMEN wrote:

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Why pay for a Ferrari when all you need is a Honda?
You live on 60% less than you did before? Wow! So money and value is important to you?? How come when it's important to an employer, they are evil??

What's your point?

The dude was asking you how much time you've wasted on a vendetta that no one cares about.

You do realize that the money that comes out of your pocket that goes to firemen is fractions of a penny, right?

You do realize that if they were paid what you want them to be paid it would end up costing you one or two less fractions of a penny, right.

Don't try to make your silly vendetta sound righteous....it's not. It's personal and pathetic with you and for all the ridiculous name changes you give yourself, you are pretty much alone in your feeling about firemen.

So again, how much time are you wasting?

How many minds have you changed with your pathetic and passive aggressive jibber jabber about Publix?

None.

Great way to spend a life.

[Nice]

BAM wrote:

Dude - is your only goal in life to post derogatory statements about firemen? By the way - the 2 firemen I know went to college. What are you going to do when all this pent up rage you feel manifests itself into a heart attack and then you will need those "greedy" firemen to save your life. I think you are a wanna-be fireman who was turned down and now you have made defaming the fire department your full-time job. Give it a rest already - find another hobby or go after the CEO's with their golden parachutes - that makes more sense!<quoted text>

Very well articulated ~ I agree!

[FIREMEN R GREEDY]

Captain Croinch wrote:

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What's your point?
The dude was asking you how much time you've wasted on a vendetta that no one cares about.
You do realize that the money that comes out of your pocket that goes to firemen is fractions of a penny, right?
You do realize that if they were paid what you want them to be paid it would end up costing you one or two less fractions of a penny, right.
Don't try to make your silly vendetta sound righteous....it's not. It's personal and pathetic with you and for all the ridiculous name changes you give yourself, you are pretty much alone in your feeling about firemen.
So again, how much time are you wasting?
How many minds have you changed with your pathetic and passive aggressive jibber jabber about Publix?
None.
Great way to spend a life.

Home prices are sliding, wages are stagnant, job losses are growing and the Standard & Poor's 500-stock index, a broad measure of stock performance, is down 6 percent in the past year. So consumers are going on a recession diet.

Firemen are alll getting raises, stop going to college become a firemen.

[Drew]

COME HIRE ME! I'M A MAN! I'M 40!

[FIREMEN R GREEDY]

Captain Croinch wrote:

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What's your point?
The dude was asking you how much time you've wasted on a vendetta that no one cares about.
You do realize that the money that comes out of your pocket that goes to firemen is fractions of a penny, right?
You do realize that if they were paid what you want them to be paid it would end up costing you one or two less fractions of a penny, right.
Don't try to make your silly vendetta sound righteous....it's not. It's personal and pathetic with you and for all the ridiculous name changes you give yourself, you are pretty much alone in your feeling about firemen.
So again, how much time are you wasting?
How many minds have you changed with your pathetic and passive aggressive jibber jabber about Publix?
None.
Great way to spend a life.

The firemen should be worried that the college graduates will start becoming firemen and the bottom half of the high school class graduates will be out of a job. With the money that is being paid, they should have the top college graduates working for them, not high school fools.

[BP Resident]

FIREMEN R GREEDY wrote:

Why bother with an education?
Firemen start at $45,000 plus great health benefits, and a huge, I mean huge pension benefit.
Work for 25 years end up making over $100,000 per year and retire at age 45 with a $7,000 plus pension (worth over $5 milion dollars) all for shopping at publix, watching tv and sleeping on the job for 8 days a month. Yes all you have to work is 8 days a month. Yes shop publix, cruise the beach, wash your truck, all on the taxpayers money.
Only stupid people go to college!!!

A Buena Park policeman can earn over $100,000 per year after only two years on the job, and we don't have people shooting at each other. I'm still kicking myself for going to college! They don't even give you a gun when you graduate.

You don't need college to get rich, but the education machine has too much invested in itself to tell you otherwise.

[FredFish]

Kind of depressing to see that government is one of the 'growth industries', that's what the economy needs, more government workers. We can't afford the ones we have or the pensions for those who used to work for govt. What will they be doing anyway ? More big brothers ?, more enforcers of volumes of stupid laws ?
Then on the other hand, some of this stuff obviously needs done because with out them, greedy civilians plunder the medicade/medicare vaults,
more drug pushers, more theives...more people just surrendering to their baser instincts and taking advantage of honest people.
I don't even know what we stand for anymore, or if it's worth 'protecting'.
9-11 kept us unbalanced for maybe 3 weeks, then back to business. When will we ever learn.

[Captain Croinch]

FIREMEN R GREEDY wrote:

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The firemen should be worried that the college graduates will start becoming firemen and the bottom half of the high school class graduates will be out of a job. With the money that is being paid, they should have the top college graduates working for them, not high school fools.

LOL @ "the firemen should be worried"

Wow, if you didn't need more proof that YOU want to be a fireman, here it is.

First you bash the firemen, now you want to get in their head and think for them...amazing. This guys still evades the question of what it feels like to waste so much petty emotion on "firemen".

[DRap]

I'm an admin manager w/20+years of experience. Every interview I've ever been on down here I'm told my skills are impeccable. But when I get offered the job (and every time I do), I'm offered less than I made up north 15 years ago! When I balk at the salary, all of a sudden my skills aren't really needed because "we can just train somebody to do that". Then why did you call me? They always seem surprised when I say no!? Florida will always be the dregs of this country. Mediocre is a little too high to aspire to here; such backassward thinking runs way too rampant.

[Buffalochik]

Captain Croinch wrote:

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I've been laid off plenty you old cow.
It's no one's fault but mine.
So, again...let me get your blame complex correct.
It's bad for companies to send jobs overseas?
So, when you go to a store do you pay for the priciest things you can find or the cheapest?
Don't bothering answering.....I know the answer.
Everyone in this country is out for themselves. You cannot shift your anger towards an employer when they are out for themselves too.
People get mad at Walmart for putting mom and pops out of business and having a monopoly on any small towns wages, but not so mad that they'd consider paying more elsewhere as a political statement or protest.
It's your own fault for becoming obsolete. Not your employers, not your governments.
It's amazing how alleged hard working Americans turn into spineless communists the second things don't go their way.

Take your assumptions a**hole and bite me

[Florida native]

DRap wrote:

I'm an admin manager w/20+years of experience. Every interview I've ever been on down here I'm told my skills are impeccable. But when I get offered the job (and every time I do), I'm offered less than I made up north 15 years ago! When I balk at the salary, all of a sudden my skills aren't really needed because "we can just train somebody to do that". Then why did you call me? They always seem surprised when I say no!? Florida will always be the dregs of this country. Mediocre is a little too high to aspire to here; such backassward thinking runs way too rampant.

You can't compare the wages in Florida, one of the lowest tax states in the country, to a state up North, where taxes are among the highest in the world. If you want the long arm of big brother digging in your pocket while
he's knocking down a six-figure salary and pension at your expense then go back up North and pay for it. Things don't work that way in Florida. We don't have big unions and we're not fond of big brother.

[Florida native]

hmmm wrote:

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Isn't "accounting" a service? The whole country is becoming a service economy. Service includes more than just burger flipping.

It depends on what type of accounting you're talking about. Accounting is supposed to be one of the hottest, most in demand fields, especially for CPA's and people who go into auditing, ie SOX compliance.

[BECOME A FIREMEN]

DRap wrote:

I'm an admin manager w/20+years of experience. Every interview I've ever been on down here I'm told my skills are impeccable. But when I get offered the job (and every time I do), I'm offered less than I made up north 15 years ago! When I balk at the salary, all of a sudden my skills aren't really needed because "we can just train somebody to do that". Then why did you call me? They always seem surprised when I say no!? Florida will always be the dregs of this country. Mediocre is a little too high to aspire to here; such backassward thinking runs way too rampant.

23% of Palm Beach Firemen make over $100,000 per year.

During the last budget year, 464 people in the Palm Beach county's workforce made more than $100,000. About 68 percent of that group worked for fire-rescue.
Fire-rescue workers, like other county employees, receive benefits under the state's retirement system. Benefits are paid based on a person's average total compensation, which is calculated by averaging the five highest years of pay - including overtime.

[Captain Croinch]

Buffalochik wrote:

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Take your assumptions a**hole and bite me

Good comeback you big whiney baby.

Any other shortcomings or broken dreams you want to shift blame for on some institution?

[FredFish]

BECOME A FIREMEN wrote:

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23% of Palm Beach Firemen make over $100,000 per year.
During the last budget year, 464 people in the Palm Beach county's workforce made more than $100,000. About 68 percent of that group worked for fire-rescue.
Fire-rescue workers, like other county employees, receive benefits under the state's retirement system. Benefits are paid based on a person's average total compensation, which is calculated by averaging the five highest years of pay - including overtime.

Thank you for that information. I'm sure that it is public record.
I am astounded by the largess of public service union negotiators on both sides !.
I asked my friend a 31yr vet with Broward CC how many structure fires he's been to seeing how most homes are made of cememt...he laughed, and said 'very few. Obviously things are very out of balance and an honest man would have to admit that the job is just not worth that much money..315 people sharing 31.5 million. Another reason to leave. Back in NC, our firemen were mostly volunteers and loved it. They raised money by having a spagetti dinner. You always made sure you gave when they came knocking and they were your neighbors in some instances. I kinda miss those days.

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DRap wrote:

I'm an admin manager w/20+years of experience. Every interview I've ever been on down here I'm told my skills are impeccable. But when I get offered the job (and every time I do), I'm offered less than I made up north 15 years ago! When I balk at the salary, all of a sudden my skills aren't really needed because "we can just train somebody to do that". Then why did you call me? They always seem surprised when I say no!? Florida will always be the dregs of this country. Mediocre is a little too high to aspire to here; such backassward thinking runs way too rampant.

It is all what you make it. I lost a job in 1993 I worked for the company several years and worked my way up into the company. I was making good money and the doors closed over 1000 people out of work. I spent the next 6 months looking for work as if I had a F/T job out of the house by 8am took a lunch around noon and called it a day after 5pm. I found another job in the same line of work but took a pay cut to get hired. Within 3 yrs I was making more than I did at the other job and within 5 yrs I was making almost 75% more than my other job. I was very successful in my career and won many trips. Did I want to take a pay cut to start - NO but I did what I had to do to get the job. After I worked hard and long hours and was promoted several times. It is too competitive in the workforce to hold out for top $ unless you have plenty of money and every minute you hold out is a minute you could be spending proving yourself to a different company so you can earn more. The new company doesn't care what you say you did at the old company - the new one wants to see what you are made of before paying more money.