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Has anyone successfully placed Mexican Gold Bonds onto trade?

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BS Spotter

Bellflower, CA

#1 Jul 31, 2010
I have been reading a lot about the Mexican historical bonds and about the many replies and offers to place onto a trading contract. However, I have not hear nor read about anyone being successful with this type of asset.

Any comments?

BS Spotter
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private programs

United States

#2 Jul 31, 2010
Yes, they have been successfuly placed into trade and HSBC has closed bonds for me.
BS Spotter

Bellflower, CA

#3 Jul 31, 2010
private programs: please enter in contact with me at : [email protected]

I have a request from an individual in Mexico city, which business plan appealed to me (helping the poor in his town of Monterrey, NL Mexico).

Thank you for your response to my inquiry.

Thomas Hennings / BS Spotter
F Dupont

New York, NY

#5 Aug 1, 2010
private programs wrote:
Yes, they have been successfuly placed into trade and HSBC has closed bonds for me.
Dear Sir,
Being a bondholder myself, I would like to know if you have avenues still available to proceed immediately. I will appreciate your help.
Regards,

F. Dupont

[email protected]
BS Spotter

Bellflower, CA

#6 Aug 2, 2010
For the record: The poster that claimed to have successfully placed his Mexican bonds onto a trading contract, never contacted me, as I requested.
BS Spotter

Bellflower, CA

#7 Aug 4, 2010
Update: Two members of this forum did respond to my inquiry and I have forwarded their comments to my friend. Hopefully something will come out of this potential transaction.

Thank you guys!
Tree

Norman, OK

#8 Sep 1, 2010
BS Spotter wrote:
I have been reading a lot about the Mexican historical bonds and about the many replies and offers to place onto a trading contract. However, I have not hear nor read about anyone being successful with this type of asset.
Any comments?
BS Spotter
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I definitely can assist with the bonds... very close to the bank....

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TJK

San Marcos, CA

#9 Dec 4, 2010
Can someone please comment on the information below and it's relevancy? Thank you.

Historic, Historical Gold Bonds

Truth:

Historical Gold Bonds are collectors' items. There are all sorts of historic bonds that were issued to fund building projects of one kind or another or private corporate enterprises, such as railroads. Some are rare, and therefore command a relatively high price among collectors.

A Bond is a Promissory Note, issued by a corporation or government toward the completion of a project. A Bond is a means for that corporation or government to borrow money from the general public in small individual increments. In return for the use of the Bond owner's money, interest is paid on a pre-determined schedule.

Every Bond has a maturity date. On that maturity date, the Bond owner can cash in the Bond for his original investment amount and any interest due. Not all Bonds retain their value since it's not unusual for a project to fail; like DEBENTURES, Bonds are only as good as the issuer.

The only Bonds backed by the United States Government are issued by the U.S. Treasury Department. See the U.S. Treasury Department's Bureau of Public Debt web site for more information relating to Bonds and U.S. Treasuries.

Whether the Bonds in question were issued in the United States or in Paraguay, or in Germany, or anywhere else, every Bond fund is closed after a reasonable amount of time. In other words, if you don't cash them in a timely manner they are no longer redeemable.

Scam:

Historical Gold Bonds are a popular "commodity" in the the UNDERGROUND NETWORK. The most frequently offered are Pre-World War II German Gold Bonds. After that come Railroad Bonds. All are stated as being redeemable, frequently in gold.

You are made to jump through an infinite variety of hoops involving bank-to-bank transfers and private meetings. You are offered so-called authentication documents attached to impressive appraisals, often supposedly drafted by attorneys, accountants, bank officers, and dealers.

The fact is that in these scams there seldom any Bonds of any kind. If by chance the fraudster does have old Bonds in his/her possession that actually belong to them, they are only worth the collector's value. There are no huge interest payments, no cache of gold sitting in Switzerland to back them, and the German Government will not recognize them as anything more than items to display in a small museum.

They certainly cannot be leased or used for collateral to enter into another scam - the HIGH-YIELD INVESTMENT PROGRAM - and they cannot be used as collateral to purchase a LETTER OF CREDIT or TREASURIES, all of which you may be told by these fraudsters or a middleman.

As for the Railroad Bonds, while very pretty and artistic, at most they are only worth around the price of dinner for 2 at an expensive restaurant, and that's only if they are very rare and desirable.









Gus Enegren

Las Vegas, NV

#11 Dec 6, 2010
private programs wrote:
Yes, they have been successfuly placed into trade and HSBC has closed bonds for me.
I have numerous sellers of Mex bonds. Care to share contact info for the folks at HSBC? My previous buyer has completed their portfolio and closed up shop. [email protected]
HUD

Austin, TX

#12 Dec 8, 2010
Gus Enegren wrote:
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I have numerous sellers of Mex bonds. Care to share contact info for the folks at HSBC? My previous buyer has completed their portfolio and closed up shop. [email protected]
I have a strong buyer in the USA that is buying Mexican bonds (euro cleared) now. Deadline is Monday so we could move quick if you have bonds that have not been shopped around. We are about to close one large operation. Send me an email with your phone number and we can get rolling fast.
[email protected]
Hilarious

Novato, CA

#13 Dec 14, 2010
Mexican Bonds = Fraud
John Gomez

United States

#15 Dec 18, 2010
I personally spoke to the original issuers of Mexican Gold Bonds, Banco de Mexico, and they confirmed that all bonds issued by them have an experation date and any bonds being offered over 50 years old although REAL are NO LONGER VALID.

Trying to put these into trade can be considered fraud as the have no real value other than historical.

Don't wast you time. If you want to buy some you can find them on eBay. ;)
BS Spotter

Bellflower, CA

#16 Dec 19, 2010
John Gomez, you must be one of the dumbest people walking the surface of this earth. If I could see your location, I would know for sure you are the same joker broker from Florida that misrepresented itself as a trader. Nevertheless, do you really believe Hacienda de Mexico will tell you the truth? The moment they received your call (which I sincerely question), the could spot a moron on the phone. How many parties do you know that are willing and standingby to pay a debt that may amount to several million dollars?

Caller.....(John Gomez / JG) Ahhhh I have an old bond and I wish to collect on it.

Hacienda (H)...The bonds are no good. Goodbye.

JG: Ahhhh okay. Bye.

End of telephone conversation.
R AND EYE

Cairo, NY

#17 Dec 20, 2010
private programs wrote:
Yes, they have been successfuly placed into trade and HSBC has closed bonds for me.
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Could you please contact me, if you have successfully placed these into trade.
We own a few and would be interested in placing them.

Contact us at Allieddevelopment at Yahoo dot com

Thanks R & EYE :))

Since: Oct 09

Westlake, LA

#18 Dec 20, 2010
Hi,

i know people who will place bonds in trade but it is going to depend on exactly what the bond is. There are only a handfull like the 1899 series A that they are even interested in. What do you have?

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bob

Lake Elsinore, CA

#19 Dec 24, 2010
Are there any historical mexican bonds that can be brought to trade for real.Know someone who sais they have a 1.5B.ready to trade,already with trader.
bob

Lake Elsinore, CA

#20 Dec 24, 2010
Has anyone done anything with Fransisco Corona Martinez out of Mexico City?
bob

Lake Elsinore, CA

#21 Dec 24, 2010
Is the European trade platform closed now till after the new year
John Gomez

Phoenix, AZ

#22 Dec 27, 2010
BS Spotter wrote:
John Gomez, you must be one of the dumbest people walking the surface of this earth. If I could see your location, I would know for sure you are the same joker broker from Florida that misrepresented itself as a trader. Nevertheless, do you really believe Hacienda de Mexico will tell you the truth? The moment they received your call (which I sincerely question), the could spot a moron on the phone. How many parties do you know that are willing and standingby to pay a debt that may amount to several million dollars?
Caller.....(John Gomez / JG) Ahhhh I have an old bond and I wish to collect on it.
Hacienda (H)...The bonds are no good. Goodbye.
JG: Ahhhh okay. Bye.
End of telephone conversation.
Not sure why my post got you so upset. hmmmm..at any rate. I am Mexican and have high level contact in Mexico. Do you really believe the Mexican Government is going to honor bonds from 1899, 1905 etc....they all have a maturity date. And the US Goventmn certainly is gonna honor them as well. OMG I cant believe people are so ignorant and naive, and no, I'm not a broker...I am a financier..I was approached with bonds and found out they are worthless. Do your home work. Anyone that thinks otherwise is as you said...dumb.
John Gomez

Phoenix, AZ

#23 Dec 27, 2010
BS Spotter wrote:
John Gomez, you must be one of the dumbest people walking the surface of this earth. If I could see your location, I would know for sure you are the same joker broker from Florida that misrepresented itself as a trader. Nevertheless, do you really believe Hacienda de Mexico will tell you the truth? The moment they received your call (which I sincerely question), the could spot a moron on the phone. How many parties do you know that are willing and standingby to pay a debt that may amount to several million dollars?
Caller.....(John Gomez / JG) Ahhhh I have an old bond and I wish to collect on it.
Hacienda (H)...The bonds are no good. Goodbye.
JG: Ahhhh okay. Bye.

End of telephone conversation.
Excuse me....I meant to say the US government is NOT going to honor them on Mexico's behalf....at any rate feel free to see the following links:

http://www.thejokerbrokers.com/article/index....

http://www.scripophily.org/new/index.php...

And if you do your research all bonds have a maturity date...

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