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Nothing has changed in China.

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David Cheever, A Small Man resorting to Calling Names, Shame, Shame and Shame!!!
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David Cheever wrote:
Nothing has changed in China.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =jTRcjeiNyGkXX&feature=rel ated
To your enlightenment of the Chinese peoples' achievement well before you were in your diapers!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-...

China is the world's most populous country, with a continuous culture stretching back nearly 4,000 years.
Many of the elements that make up the foundation of the modern world originated in China, including paper, gunpowder, credit banking, the compass and paper money.
After stagnating for more than two decades under the rigid authoritarianism of early communist rule under its late leader, Chairman Mao, China now has the world's fastest-growing economy and is undergoing what has been described as a second industrial revolution.
It has also launched an amibitious space exploration programme, involving plans to set up a space station by 2020.
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@David Cheever (aka ???), Don, & Yuri

Keep yourself informed of civilization beyond your four walls.
While the Chinese civilization were and are still up and about, you guys were still in your wet diapers!
The Western civilization is still wet behind the ears compared to those of the Indian and Chinese.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19929620

A Point Of View: Making sense of China
By Martin Jacques is an economist and author of When China Rules the World

China's growing importance on the world stage means that the West needs to start speaking its language, says economist Martin Jacques.

My son has been learning Mandarin Chinese since he was five; he is now just 14.
It has not been easy. Learning Chinese has required a deep pocket and the determination of an Olympic athlete.
For nine years, he fed on the scraps of a veritable army of part-time tutors, each one lasting a year or so if we were lucky. The reason? Until 12 months ago it wasn't possible for him to learn it at school - French, Spanish German, Latin, even Ancient Greek, no problem. But not Chinese.

Even now, alas, it is very much a second-class subject. His lessons take place during the school lunch break.
The reluctance of the educational system - public and private - to grasp the Chinese nettle is a metaphor for a much wider problem: our ignorance about China and our failure to appreciate just how much it will change the world and transform our lives.
With unerring regularity, our predictions about China have proved mistaken. Take its economy. In 1980 it was one-20th of the size of the US, today it is half the size and closing rapidly.

Throughout that period, the doubting Thomases were always in a large majority. It would not last, sooner or later it would all end in tears.

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Why have we managed to get China so wrong? The reason is hardly rocket science. We insist on viewing it through a western prism. For the best part of two centuries, Western societies have seen themselves as the model for all others. But China isn't like us. It never has been and never will be.

The great task facing the West over the next century will be to make sense of China - not in our terms but in theirs. We have to understand China as it is and as it has been, not project our own history, culture, institutions and values onto it. It will always fail that test. In truth such a mentality tells us more about our own arrogance and lack of curiosity than anything about China.

Let's take one example. We assume that the nation-state, that long-standing and remarkably influential European invention, is more or less universal. True, China has called itself a nation-state for about a century. But 100 years is a mere pin-prick for a country that dates back over two millennia. Modern China emerged in 221. By the time of the Han dynasty - still more than 2,000 years ago - China's borders already closely resembled those of eastern and central China today. China is very old, the longest continuously-existing polity in the world. And for more than 2,000 years, it was not a nation-state but a civilisation-state. In essence it still is.
Our own sense of who we are, and what we are, is overwhelmingly shaped by our sense of nation, as it is for every Western country.
China is different. The things that define for the Chinese who they are and what China is are a product not of the past 100 years of calling itself a nation-state but 2,000 years of being a civilisation-state.

China is changing faster than any other society in human history. Yet at the same time it continues to enjoy a unique and extraordinary intimacy with its own history. On my countless visits to China I am always fascinated and intrigued by this paradox. Don't be surprised if a Beijing taxi driver quotes an old sage or two from 3,000 years ago in a conversation about the present. History, even far distant history, is right there in the rear-view mirror. The values associated with Confucius, who lived 2,500 years ago, continue to shape and mould social attitudes such as harmony, stability, order, or the state as a microcosm of the family.
It is no accident that the Chinese write the family name first followed by the given name. It reflects the overriding importance of the family in Chinese history. Then there's the ancient roots of Chinese food and indeed Chinese medicine. Civilisation is what defines China.

"In the 5th Century BC, Europe had Socrates and China had just had Confucius. Both philosophers thought hard about ethics, and the right relationship between the individual and the state."
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Read more about Confucius from Carrie Gracie and about great Chinese figures by following the links below
The country has another remarkable characteristic in this context. It is huge, a continent in its own right as well being home to 1.3bn people, one-fifth of the human race. Although we tend to see China as highly centralised, it would be impossible to run a country of such size and immense diversity from Beijing. Its provincial governments have enjoyed great power, with the largest having far more authority than the great majority of the world's nation-states.

But what in practice does it mean to be a civilisation-state?

The implications are far-reaching.

Here's an example.

You may remember the handover of Hong Kong by Britain to China in 1997. Under the new constitution, known as the Basic Law, China proposed that Hong Kong would be run on the principle of "one country, two systems". The vast majority of us, I suspect, hadn't got a clue what it meant. I am sure that we overwhelmingly believed that, soon after the handover, Hong Kong would become more or less indistinguishable from the rest of China.

Over 15 years later, it is abundantly clear we were wrong. Hong Kong is at least as different - politically and legally - from the rest of China as it was in 1997. The Chinese really did mean one country, two systems.

Why didn't we believe them? Because we are a nation-state and think like a nation-state.

Take the reunification of Germany in 1990. What happened? The old East Germany disappeared. The new united Germany was the old West Germany writ large. It was the natural solution for a nation-state - one country, one system. But it is impossible to rule a civilization-state of China's scale on that principle. For 2,000 years, China has operated in varying degrees according to the principle one country, many systems. The country could not be held together on any other basis.

In this light, it was entirely logical for China to embrace Hong Kong on the basis of one country, two systems. If Taiwan should decide at some point that its future lies with China and that it should accept Chinese sovereignty, I think the Chinese will offer the Taiwanese the same deal - one country, two systems. But they will likely go further and give an undertaking that Taiwan can retain universal suffrage and its present multi-party system. Because what really matters to the Chinese is not the system but the principle of their sovereignty.

So, let's now imagine a world in which the dominant power is no longer a nation-state, like the United States and before that Britain, but a civilisation-state. I suggest that over time - and I mean many decades - the world will come to look very different. The European-inspired nation-state system will progressively give way to a more pluralistic world.
The rise of China will encourage other countries to think of themselves differently. India is not a civilisation-state in the manner of China, but it too is the product of a great civilisation. Turkey too, and likewise Iran. The decline of the West will undermine the strait jacket of the nation-state.
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The idea of China as a civilisation-state is the key to many other aspects of China. We cannot understand why - quite remarkably - over 90% of Chinese think of themselves as of the same race without reference to it. Or why the state enjoys such authority and reverence amongst the Chinese even though it lacks a Western-style democracy.

If we persist with our present mindset, then don't be surprised if we continue getting China hopelessly wrong. Worse, with the relentless rise of China and the long-term decline of the West, we will find ourselves increasingly unfamiliar with a China-centric world and feel more and more like outsiders. That's exactly what happened to China, to its huge cost, after 1800 with the rise of the West.
Despite all the obstacles, my son's Mandarin Chinese is coming along nicely.

The task is formidable: you have to learn thousands of characters and a host of entirely unfamiliar sounds. It is estimated that it takes at least twice as long to learn as a European language. The language is a metaphor for China. Understanding the unfamiliar requires a different mentality: rather than superiority, hubris and presumption, which have I think been the dominant Western attitudes towards China, we'll need respect, humility and modesty. Will we respond to the challenge? The stakes could not be higher.
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Why have we managed to get China so wrong? The reason is hardly rocket science. We insist on viewing it through a western prism. For the best part of two centuries, Western societies have seen themselves as the model for all others. But China isn't like us. It never has been and never will be.

The great task facing the West over the next century will be to make sense of China - not in our terms but in theirs. We have to understand China as it is and as it has been, not project our own history, culture, institutions and values onto it. It will always fail that test. In truth such a mentality tells us more about our own arrogance and lack of curiosity than anything about China.
Let's take one example. We assume that the nation-state, that long-standing and remarkably influential European invention, is more or less universal. True, China has called itself a nation-state for about a century. But 100 years is a mere pin-prick for a country that dates back over two millennia. Modern China emerged in 221. By the time of the Han dynasty - still more than 2,000 years ago - China's borders already closely resembled those of eastern and central China today. China is very old, the longest continuously-existing polity in the world. And for more than 2,000 years, it was not a nation-state but a civilisation-state. In essence it still is.

Our own sense of who we are, and what we are, is overwhelmingly shaped by our sense of nation, as it is for every Western country.
China is different. The things that define for the Chinese who they are and what China is are a product not of the past 100 years of calling itself a nation-state but 2,000 years of being a civilisation-state.

China is changing faster than any other society in human history. Yet at the same time it continues to enjoy a unique and extraordinary intimacy with its own history. On my countless visits to China I am always fascinated and intrigued by this paradox. Don't be surprised if a Beijing taxi driver quotes an old sage or two from 3,000 years ago in a conversation about the present. History, even far distant history, is right there in the rear-view mirror. The values associated with Confucius, who lived 2,500 years ago, continue to shape and mould social attitudes such as harmony, stability, order, or the state as a microcosm of the family.

It is no accident that the Chinese write the family name first followed by the given name. It reflects the overriding importance of the family in Chinese history. Then there's the ancient roots of Chinese food and indeed Chinese medicine. Civilisation is what defines China.

"In the 5th Century BC, Europe had Socrates and China had just had Confucius. Both philosophers thought hard about ethics, and the right relationship between the individual and the state."
Read more about Confucius from Carrie Gracie and about great Chinese figures by following the links below
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The country has another remarkable characteristic in this context. It is huge, a continent in its own right as well being home to 1.3bn people, one-fifth of the human race. Although we tend to see China as highly centralised, it would be impossible to run a country of such size and immense diversity from Beijing. Its provincial governments have enjoyed great power, with the largest having far more authority than the great majority of the world's nation-states.

But what in practice does it mean to be a civilisation-state?
The implications are far-reaching.
Here's an example.

You may remember the handover of Hong Kong by Britain to China in 1997. Under the new constitution, known as the Basic Law, China proposed that Hong Kong would be run on the principle of "one country, two systems". The vast majority of us, I suspect, hadn't got a clue what it meant. I am sure that we overwhelmingly believed that, soon after the handover, Hong Kong would become more or less indistinguishable from the rest of China.
Over 15 years later, it is abundantly clear we were wrong. Hong Kong is at least as different - politically and legally - from the rest of China as it was in 1997. The Chinese really did mean one country, two systems.

Why didn't we believe them? Because we are a nation-state and think like a nation-state.

Take the reunification of Germany in 1990. What happened? The old East Germany disappeared. The new united Germany was the old West Germany writ large. It was the natural solution for a nation-state - one country, one system. But it is impossible to rule a civilization-state of China's scale on that principle. For 2,000 years, China has operated in varying degrees according to the principle one country, many systems. The country could not be held together on any other basis.

In this light, it was entirely logical for China to embrace Hong Kong on the basis of one country, two systems. If Taiwan should decide at some point that its future lies with China and that it should accept Chinese sovereignty, I think the Chinese will offer the Taiwanese the same deal - one country, two systems. But they will likely go further and give an undertaking that Taiwan can retain universal suffrage and its present multi-party system. Because what really matters to the Chinese is not the system but the principle of their sovereignty.
So, let's now imagine a world in which the dominant power is no longer a nation-state, like the United States and before that Britain, but a civilisation-state. I suggest that over time - and I mean many decades - the world will come to look very different. The European-inspired nation-state system will progressively give way to a more pluralistic world.

The rise of China will encourage other countries to think of themselves differently. India is not a civilisation-state in the manner of China, but it too is the product of a great civilisation. Turkey too, and likewise Iran. The decline of the West will undermine the strait jacket of the nation-state.
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everybody is you with a different appearance.
when you don't like someone else it is because you see something of yourself in them that you don't want to know about. in the end all comes from the same source so there is no separation and all just is. there is nothing wrong with anything. love and hate are the same. right and wrong are the same. it all just is. both are just different sides of the pendulum and there is nothing wrong with either. there is no right or wrong. there just is.
what people label good or evil all comes from the same source. no point in externalizing your internal crap onto others around you.

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Try to follow my footsteps to Aim High and be a builder of our society...

Presently, I plan to set up a Scholarship under the name of Han Ban Center of Excellence to aid all young students to aim high and live a good life in this world!!!

Signed, A Justday
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To David Cheever and those Chinese bashers.
May these videos enlighten you that Chinese whether they are in America, China, Taiwan, Europe or Asia, they aren't suckers nor sick!
Anyway, where were you guys when your help was needed most ? Counting your monies waiting for bad karma ??
1) Watch the gratitude shown by the Mayor and local Police forces for the Chinese help.
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2)Watch how grateful residences of the affected area for the helps coming from nowhere but the Chinese community!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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When Han Ban Chinese took the Poor After Mao Era, infested w/ famine and natural disasters to be the Second Wealthiest Nation in the World in less than three decades; When China is to have the Largest Economy by 2016 exceeding US by a Mile; When China Middle class is swelled up to 64% of her residents; When China's Massive City Building Programs turn 74& of all Citizens to be proud owners of brand New High Rise (not renters); When China has no Food Stamps to feed and When China is becoming the most desirable destinations for tourists and Visitors ready to settle down and settle in, David Cheever of Citibank is not welcome!!

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The Chinese Nationals are barbarians, they have no repsect for life and display their barbarity daily.

Maybe if they weren't so ignorant they would be disgusted by what happens aorund them, and maybe change, they arel ike cockroaches on this planet.
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I need not to deal w/ low lives like you...Do you know that people in China are the second richest in the world....They are the world banker to finance the American Debts..

You do come from Australia, Occidental Tourist...Why don't you stay there!!! If you know the Properly English Word!!

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I need not to deal w/ low lives like you...Do you know that people in China are the second richest in the world....They are the world banker to finance the American Debts..

You do come from Australia, Occidental Tourist...Why don't you stay there!!! If you know the Proper English Word to use!!

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Pity.
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There is plenty of regrets when one goes thru LIFE..When Erin, a Jewish elder met me yesterday and called out mime + my two sons' name during the Chinese New Year Festivals at UB Center of Fine Arts, I was not only surprised but also impressed of his memory...For we met three years ago in a banquet..And I am having no regrets w/ what I have done in this Life!!

By the way, this gentleman owned a huge spread of real estate in Central New York!!!

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Mainland Chinese people suck incredibly ^__^

They are:

corrupt
dishonest
greedy
dishonorable
deplorable
cowardly bullies
liars
cheaters

...but it's not their fault.

Hong Kongers, Taiwanese, Singaporean Chinese, and overseas are awesome!

Ask them about Mainlanders and they will tell you the same ^__^
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Lived in China: You can go to HELL...An Animal and A Beast...You are a Trash no one dared to come close...

The Facts are: People in China are the second wealthiest in this world; They are more billionaires than you can count and They are more Han Ban Chinese there than any other place else!

Forget about Taiwanese, Singaporean and Hong Kong people..They are merely running dogs of the West...

By the way, I came from Taiwan but I despised all of them..
No one Aim High and Look Far!

Signed, A Justday

PS - You are a Twerp and Rat living in China, Sadly, the
low down exception!

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