MTN/BG/SBLC wanted
JDH

Riverside, UK

#1 May 13, 2013
MTN/BG/SBLC wanted 5m to 500m.DVP,invoice then closing call.
Offers to [email protected]
kenfox911

Taiwan

#3 May 13, 2013
Big Buyer Request SSBG/BOND/MTN any Big amount:
Securities and instruments wanted by private transaction.SCREEN BLOCK AND PAY EUROCLEAR PROCEDURE or B2B,D2D, Invoice then closing all in T3 Max T5.With securities need ISIN,instrument receiving copy.EC Page and Screen.better have Title Page.
we can close asap.Only direct seller/mandate.
Pls email: [email protected]

Since: Nov 12

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#4 May 14, 2013
Gentlemen, by including Bank Guarantees and SBLC's in these requests, you are giving away the problems you may have, because neither of these instruments are delivered by "screen block and pay" or DVP and definately NOT by Euroclear.....

BG and SBLC are NOT registered securites and until the buyer makes himself known, the BG/SLC can not exist, becasue the buyer takes the position of beneficiary....

Good luck!
tsb

United States

#6 May 14, 2013
St-John, idiots will never learn. You can even hit them with the rock in their head to bring them to reality, but still it is beyond their comprehension.
They have no idea what a guarantee is or a letter of credit is, how it is issued, who issues it, what backs it, for what purpose it is issued, for who it is issued for, and all the details involved in the issuance and thereby transfer. Just like you if they have any skills, they should go to the banks, either work in the trade finance department, or be the party causing the issuance and then they will stop wasting their time and their lives.
Idiots put securities and the debt instruments in the same category. On the top of that, you have idiots offering debt instruments on pennies on a dollar for their so called "leased instruments". Again, the idiots do not know the front from the rear.

Leave the banking and the investments to it's professionals, and you idiots go find some real jobs.
victor

Singapore, Singapore

#17 Jun 9, 2013
Hi, pls contact me at [email protected]

Hope to hear from u soon.
Thanks.
Regard,

Victor.
kenfox911 wrote:
Big Buyer Request SSBG/BOND/MTN any Big amount:
Securities and instruments wanted by private transaction.SCREEN BLOCK AND PAY EUROCLEAR PROCEDURE or B2B,D2D, Invoice then closing all in T3 Max T5.With securities need ISIN,instrument receiving copy.EC Page and Screen.better have Title Page.
we can close asap.Only direct seller/mandate.
Pls email: [email protected]
victor

Singapore, Singapore

#18 Jun 9, 2013
Hi, pls contact me at [email protected]

Hope to hear from u soon.
Thanks.

Regards,

Victor.
JDH wrote:
MTN/BG/SBLC wanted 5m to 500m.DVP,invoice then closing call.
Offers to [email protected]
SSBG and SSMTNs Wanted

Orlando, FL

#56 Aug 28, 2013
We require SSBG and SSMTN Screen Block and Pay (SBP) procedures on Euroclear.

Please email me at [email protected]
Confused

Philippines

#58 Aug 30, 2013
Tell me please how do BG's find their way onto a screen system for Euroclear SBP??

Since: Nov 12

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#59 Aug 30, 2013
Don't be confused, the simple answer is that they DO NOT......
kosem21

Ramla, Israel

#60 Aug 31, 2013
The simple explanation to the ignorant: Imagine that the BG has an underlying asset (origin fund/for value received a master bond, which can be screened in the Euroclear system and gives the BG its financial power.

Since: Jul 13

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#62 Aug 31, 2013
kosem21 wrote:
The simple explanation to the ignorant: Imagine that the BG has an underlying asset (origin fund/for value received a master bond, which can be screened in the Euroclear system and gives the BG its financial power.
Exactly right. Bravo. But St.John fundamentally does not believe that bond could have any trade value at all, therefore he rejects even remote possibility of it's placement as underlying asset that empowers BG making it trade-ready on Platform PPP.

Since: Nov 12

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#66 Sep 1, 2013
Kosem, the question raised was do BG's appear on to a Euroclear Screen for a SBP transaction. My reply was simply to answer that BG's DO NOT appear on Euroclear screens. PERIOD. FULL STOP. END OF STORY.

Can I be more clear?? BANK GUARANTEES do not appear on Euroclear and neither do they appear on DTCC.

They are not settled via SBP, DVP or any similar securities system.

They do not have ISIN or CUSIP numbers appearing in any publically identifiable system.....

Now you come along and say that "imagine a BG has an underlying asset or master bond...." well pardon me, but a BG can only derive a value from a bond if the issuing bank gives the BG the value...and this can only be done by the owner of the bond allowing the issuer to do so.

The APPLICANT who is raising the BG may well have a bond which can be traced through Euroclear and or any screen system, but this is between the applicant and the issuer, and is not reflected in the issuance of a BG.

Bonds deriving values from OTHER ASSETS do so in a regulated market and through a regulated issue....and BG's are no where near a regulated issue, and never will be.

If I am WRONG, please give me one (just one) ISIN number which I can trace and see a BG deriving a value from an issued bond......PLEASE.

Since: Nov 12

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#67 Sep 1, 2013
Hollywood. Its great that you also agree with others.

I have never said that bonds do not have any trade value.

I am (TODAY) a bond trader for a well respected institution, but I never advertise this fact. SO my life revolves around trading BONDS in a regulated market.

I have said to YOU many times that your insisting that HISTORIC bonds issued by China in the 1900's, Mexico in the 1930's etc have values in the millions or even BILLIONS is wrong.

Can I be clear: HISTORIC BONDS such as Petchili's, Blue-Berries, Black Eagles, Dawes, Young, Chinese reconstruction etc are WORTHLESS PIECES OF PAPER as far as investments are concerned.

Now I am answering a simple request here, where the forum was asked how does a Bank Guarantee (NOT A BOND) find its way onto a screen system for a Euroclear SBP. My reply was SIMPLE. Bang Guarantees DO NOT find their way onto the Euroclear System. They are NEVER on the Euroclear system and are NOT SETTLED by the Euroclear system.

Anyone mixing up a Bank Guarantee and a BOND (which are just about as far apart legally as its possible to be!!) let alone trying to align a registered security with a historic collectors item is showing a lack of common sense let alone a lack of knowledge.

It then takes an ENORMOUS leap of faith to say that I have said a BG can not have a value to allow it to be used in a PPP....who ever mentioned a BG not having a value?(not me), who mentioned that a BG may not have an underlying asset (Not me)who ever mentioned that a BG could not be entered into a PPP ?(not me).... In fact its better that you READ what was asked and even read the heading of the topic before posting your observations about what I have said, when I said NO SUCH THING.

I will say it AGAIN just so we are clear. HISTORIC BONDS HAVE NO INVESTMNT VALUE. PERIOD.

BANK GUARANTEES DO NOT APPEAR ON EUROCLEAR for SBP settlement. PERIOD.

A Bank Guarantee may derive a value from ANY ASSET is the applicant wishes, and this value can be placed in a PPP. BUT the value will NOT EVER REFLECT IN EUROCLEAR as being a BG for SBP settlement.

Since: Jul 13

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#68 Sep 2, 2013
St-John I have to admit, I admire your persuasion, but you're totally incorrect. It isn't your fault of course, anyways, your determination makes me really think about putting you on my team, since you are not giving any signs of a foreign agent, rather than possible recruit for a real dream crew. I might be wrong about you, never the less, there is always an agenda as long as you keep your investigative mouth shut for the upper purpose. Start going into real trades instead of wasting your time on bashing everyone on fucking Internet forums and we can probably talk. Every deal is protected by NDNC, but you can always find your way to prove yourself

Since: Nov 12

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#69 Sep 2, 2013
Hollywood

Is this a job offer??

I am honoured as they may say..... BUT I want you to tell me specifically please where I am totally incorrect?

Incorrect that there is a legitimate and REGULATED bond market?
Incorrect that Historical bonds are worthless as an investment vehicle?
Incorrect that I am currently working s a licensed trader?
Incorrect that NCND's are so very important, that every "Yank" asking for one does so only to get hold of a copy of your passport, because sure as hell they will never pay attention to a single word the NCND says!!

Waiting to hear my salary, expected benefits and do I get to work from your private island??

Have a great day!!

Not quite so saintly.....John!

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