NEW 10B Fresh Cut BG for SALE

[Lilttle Guy in Michigan]

Michael, You sound like the guy I am looking for. I need help and have been getting abused by 'Joker-Brokers' for too long and I am running out of time. I have a Euroclear Bond, an Mt760 by Commerz Bank, and Bills of Exchange that I need to liquidate, legitimately! If you can help, PLEASE respond to me at: [e-mail].
Thank You!!

Michael Hunt wrote:

Why do you amateur traders try to impress each other with non-sense, when the end result will be "nothing

accomplished" ?
First of all, bank guarantees are not securities and therefore cannot nor will not receive an ISIN or CUSIP code. Those who claim the contrary, show a lack of knowledge and it's proof that you have been learning from the wrong "mentor". If you ever wondered why you have never made any money, trying to peddle things that are incorrectly presented or offered; now you know.
There is not enough space here, nor do I have the time to post an explanation of how things work. Perhaps I will post additional comments at a later time. Until then, please, dear "Internet Joker-Brokers" stay away from our business because the only thing you will accomplish will be to further confuse those who seek education.
Michael Hunt

[NANCY]

ConsultNetServ wrote:

Well I don't appreciate the characterization either. I don't purport to be a trader "amature" or otherwise. I am an intermediary direct to both a seller and a buyer of MTNs, SBLCs and BGs. I also work direct to an investment bank out of Europe. It is via these relationships and my 6 years of experience in this business prompts me to post.
BGs and SBLCs are certainly different animals from MTNs. But as I stated I am direct to buyers for both. The buyer for BGs was asked about some of the assertions made by you and Michael and simply stated that they have purchased billions of dollars of BGs off "Euroclear", which as I stated is the only way they will buy. And they have only had 1 problem over the years and that was with an instrument from a bank in China.
In fact here was his statement: I have no idea what this broker is or whomever is talking about. We can perfect our position to claim payment at maturity without question. As we have purchase billons of dollars of BGs, I can tell you that the only problem we have ever had was with a Chinese bank with payment at the counters in China. We now will not take any instrument that is not payable in London or Europe. That is just broker babble from someone who has never closed any transaction in the purchase of BGs.

VERY INTERESTING....PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH ME....OR LET ME KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU...HERE IS MY EMAIL, [e-mail]

[NANCY]

SOMA wrote:

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Michael; We're a registered QIB and we only buy, hold and cash at maturity; we don't "peddle". Our USA traders in NYC are the institutional desks at RBC, UBS and DBA.B. Say what you like, but don't try to tell us anything about Bank Guarantees that are being offered sale. Here's my point > 99.999% of these offers are completely bogus.

SOMA....VERY INTERESTING...PLEASE CONTACT ME OR PLEASE PROVIDE CONTACT INFO. PLEASE...MINE IS [e-mail]...THANK YOU.

[John Kazan]

Hi ConsultNetServ.

Would like to learn how to participate in a direct managed buy/sell opportunity. Would appreciate details offline [e-mail].

Regards, John

ConsultNetServ wrote:

What you have stated here is moot in that I already pointed out in a previous post that often the BGs are listed as bonds but the point remains that the buyer stands by his assertions that his group buys and has bought BGs found on Euroclear for years.
His protocol which I also posted is that he is provided ISINs and Cusips before he does anything. For the record I have provided him with ISINs where he found the BG to be valid. If it were not for the failed price negotiations they would have taken it. Also, the investment bank with which I am direct had a desire to purchase BGs but after receiving several fraudulent offers decided not to jeapordize thier standing with thier bank officer.
What I continue to learn about this business is that no one knows everything about this business. I have so-called professionals tellinmg me that there is no such thing as cash backed, non-structured, non-callable, non-hybrid, AA rated or better Medium Term Notes with 7.5% fixed rate coupons, bought and sold at discounts based on volume.
And yet we sale such "non-existing" paper. I am also direct to a managed buy/sell where the buyer with a minimum of 100M can buy direct from the issuing bank. When we say direct we mean no blind swifts, no pinging of the account, no power of attorneys, no blocking of funds, no JV agreements, no joint accounts, no traders or trade groups and no gate-keepers.
This opportunity is with a top 10 WB. We have our own QIB who is also a client of the bank purchasing this "non-existing" paper from the investor at a pretty decent profit to the investor but the experts say it doesn't exist.

[Ted Shantey]

ConsultNetServ wrote:

I feel as if I'm pontificating. I already told you that BGs are often listed as "bonds or hybrid
bonds" on Euroclear. I also said I have provided him with offers that had ISINs and cusips and if had not been for failed price negotiations the deal would have been consummated. Also, what earthly reason would the buyer have for lying? It makes no sense.

Are any of these still available?

[Everest]

May any one tell me what is the normal procedure to offer a fresh cut BG

ConsultNetServ wrote:

What you have stated here is moot in that I already pointed out in a previous post that often the BGs are listed as bonds but the point remains that the buyer stands by his assertions that his group buys and has bought BGs found on Euroclear for years.
His protocol which I also posted is that he is provided ISINs and Cusips before he does anything. For the record I have provided him with ISINs where he found the BG to be valid. If it were not for the failed price negotiations they would have taken it. Also, the investment bank with which I am direct had a desire to purchase BGs but after receiving several fraudulent offers decided not to jeapordize thier standing with thier bank officer.
What I continue to learn about this business is that no one knows everything about this business. I have so-called professionals tellinmg me that there is no such thing as cash backed, non-structured, non-callable, non-hybrid, AA rated or better Medium Term Notes with 7.5% fixed rate coupons, bought and sold at discounts based on volume.
And yet we sale such "non-existing" paper. I am also direct to a managed buy/sell where the buyer with a minimum of 100M can buy direct from the issuing bank. When we say direct we mean no blind swifts, no pinging of the account, no power of attorneys, no blocking of funds, no JV agreements, no joint accounts, no traders or trade groups and no gate-keepers.
This opportunity is with a top 10 WB. We have our own QIB who is also a client of the bank purchasing this "non-existing" paper from the investor at a pretty decent profit to the investor but the experts say it doesn't exist.

[Sal]

Wayne wrote:

We Have A one Billion dollar BG that was issued buy the central bank of Venezuela and we would like to no how to go about selling them. I have never dealt with any of these before so i need some help.

Contact me at beneficial_financialsolutions@ msn.com

[Dawn]

Everest wrote:

May any one tell me what is the normal procedure to offer a fresh cut BG
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Everest,
I would like to chat with you. WOuld you email me please? [e-mail]

[JCoger]

If you are interested and capable of buying MTN(s) I have an opportunity to purchase @ 30+1 and exit to my buyer @ 51+1. please indicate if you or someone you know might be interested.

I can also provide fresh cut BG(s)

[e-mail]

[Instrument Lease]

DEAR ALL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, BECAUSE I JUST TALKED WITH MY BANKERS AT UBS AND HSBC. BOTH OF THEM EXPLAINING THE SAME THING: "BG NEVER PUT IN THE EUROCLEAR. BG NEVER HAS ANY ISIN OR CUSIP." SO, THIS IS JUST INFORMATION FOR YOU GUYS. THANKS

[Neil Zack Beverly Hills]

Looking fresh cut AAA BG or Lease BG from AAA Please email me [e-mail]

[soma]

JCoger wrote:

If you are interested and capable of buying MTN(s) I have an opportunity to purchase @ 30+1 and exit to my buyer @ 51+1. please indicate if you or someone you know might be interested.
I can also provide fresh cut BG(s)
[e-mail]

Assuming the standard internet idiot standard 10-7.5%. Let me get this right, I buy for 31 and then sell to your buyer for 52 when I would be able to get over par and leave oh say 50 on the table?! Puh-leeze. Makes one think your offer at 31 does not add up plus is really stupid.

[Michael Hunt]

Incredible !

All these so called "experts" cannot tell the difference between a bank guarantee (BG) and a "bond".

Tne central bank of Venezuela (Banco Central de Venezuela) issued several billion dollar BONDS ! not BG's ! And, none of you spotted the error posted by "Wayne" ?

Is this the "Dumb and dumber" forum ?

[2 Cents]

Michael Hunt wrote:

Incredible !
All these so called "experts" cannot tell the difference between a bank guarantee (BG) and a "bond".
Tne central bank of Venezuela (Banco Central de Venezuela) issued several billion dollar BONDS ! not BG's ! And, none of you spotted the error posted by "Wayne" ?
Is this the "Dumb and dumber" forum ?

Hello, Is that you God? Are you the perfect one?

[m bench]

please contact me at [e-mail] any help would be appreciated. Wanting direct contact with trade manager.thanks Milton G

[Zdravko Marinkovic]

Please,can somebody tell me hove I can received BG fresh cut,seasoned and leasseeng.My e mail is
[e-mail]

[ANTONIO ESCUDERO]

MEANWHILE,THE DOOR IS OPEN:
-ALL INTERESTED PARTIES WITH BGs OR WITH ACCESS TO A BG, READY AND WILLING TO GO INTO A PROGRAM,CAN CONTACT ME.
*WE PROVIDE ALL THE PROCEDURE AND ENTRANCE TO THE FINANCIAL PLATFORM.
*YOU BRING YOUR FINACIAL INSTRUMENT.
mail:[e-mail]

[Murphy]

Consult Net Services wrote:

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Actually BGs do come with ISINs and Cusips and are found on Euroclear. I have a buyer and they buy BGs and SBLCs almost exclusively. They request a Euroclear title page as part of the DD package prior to issuing a swift for payment.

Contact me to discuss this topic; [e-mail]

[Murphy]

ConsultNetServ can you contact me, [e-mail]

[jay]

First of all let me say that I am not the direct seller, but my brother is. Here is what we have: we have upwards of $200 billion USD worth of UCC filed Bills of Exchange (BOE). These BOE's were obtained from the state of Goregia as the result of a civil rights law suit that was won by my brother. These BOE's have a maturity date in the year of 2012, at that time they are redeemable for 100% of the face value. We are looking to sell these at a discounted rate of at least 75% of face value. These BOE's can be put into trade platforms but we are not intrested in doing so. We are looking to sell them out right. These BOE's are transferable and will be transfered upon closing. Anyone out there that knows about this bussiness will know that UCC is backed by the U.S.A. federal gov. If anyone out there is serious about wanting to buy any of these (end buyers only) please contact me at [e-mail] and I will put you into direct contact with the direct seller. thank you
Jay