AAM Workers Expect Long Strike

[Michigan Lady]

Mickey McMouse wrote:

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You have sense of humor...now funny like us...

Wow me funny like them!!!!!!!!!!

[Mickey McMouse]

Michigan Lady wrote:

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Wow me funny like them!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so happy you got I could just sh_t !!!!! weeeeeeeeeeeeee now we can have some fun weeeeeeeeeeee Thank you Michigan Lady..weeeeeeeee

[Oscar Meyer Wiener]

Where did everybody go ???? I'm so lonely.
I'm taking Michigan lady out to lunch.

[Strikers Wife]

Wow you guys need to get a life--or go back to work!!!
Michigan Lady can hold her own against you Chaivinst Pigs! I guess it is having to deal with guys in the workplace-I would say she has got you all beat in the intelligence dept.

[Mr Wiener]

Strikers Wife wrote:

Wow you guys need to get a life--or go back to work!!!
Michigan Lady can hold her own against you Chaivinst Pigs! I guess it is having to deal with guys in the workplace-I would say she has got you all beat in the intelligence dept.

We all have a life and we are working and it's not hard to believe one woman would think another is smart, however I think your both smart and volatile...uncommon woman traits....we can deal with it..please continue..
oh by the way at least Michigan Lady does have a sense of humor....she's shown a great quality....weeeeeeeee

[Strikers Wife]

Wow, just heard that AAM wants to close all three plants in Buffalo! GM offered to give 200 Million to get the strike over--Dauch wants to keep it--a true insult--dam corporate greed!
I guess we will continue to walk--Michigan Lady and I feel for alot of the strikers but now is the time to send Corporate America a message--we ain't just ol factory workers--we got some intelligence and don't insult it!!!

[Michigan Lady]

Strikers Wife.... My believe on CEO Dauch is this. He never had any intention to keep the Plants in the US open. He has known from the beginning that is what he wanted . So for him going to the bargaining table was nothing but a big joke. From what I see there never was any kind of bargaining in good faith on his part. He is one of the worse scum bags I have ever seen. Posted below is the news article from today.

[Michigan Lady]

news article

American Axle offer hinders deal
Supplier proposes 3 more closings; Gettelfinger surprised
ASSOCIATED PRESS • May 11, 2008

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UAW President Ron Gettelfinger said Saturday he thought the union was close to a contract deal to end a strike against American Axle until the auto parts supplier offered a proposal that includes closing three plants.

Gettelfinger told WWJ-AM (950) in Detroit that the latest proposal came as a surprise Friday. He said it included closing a facility in Cheektowaga, N.Y., in addition to two other closures that previously had been discussed.

There had been hope for a settlement after General Motors Corp.'s surprise announcement Thursday that it will throw in $200 million to help end the 10-week walkout, which has crippled production of GM pickups and SUVs. But Gettelfinger said he hadn't wanted GM involved, and noted that the new offer came on the heels of GM's proposal.

"I think it definitely made it worse, because now we're facing another closure," Gettelfinger said.

He said the union planned to remain at the bargaining table through the weekend, but said, "I don't know where we're at because the company changes their position every time we turn around."

American Axle spokeswoman Renee Rogers told the Associated Press that she could not comment on specifics of a proposal. She said talks continued Saturday and the company continues to seek a U.S. market-competitive labor agreement.

"We have consistently offered proposals significantly higher than the agreement that our competitors have, because we want to end this," Rogers said. "And they have been consistently turned down by the UAW."

GM spokesman Dan Flores declined to comment Saturday on the talks between the union and American Axle. But he said GM's $200-million offer was made with hope of helping to facilitate an agreement.

A message seeking comment was left Saturday by the Associated Press for UAW spokesman Roger Kerson.

About 3,600 UAW members went on strike Feb. 26 at the five plants in Michigan and New York in a dispute over wage and benefit cuts the company is seeking and failing to reach a new contract agreement.

Union members previously said the company wanted to negotiate the closure of American Axle's Detroit and Tonawanda, N.Y., forge operations. Gettelfinger confirmed Saturday that those had been agreed upon.

Detroit-based American Axle is a small company that gets 80% of business from GM, its former parent. It makes axles, driveshafts and stabilizer bars for pickups, such as the Chevrolet Silverado -- GM's top-selling vehicle.

Many of its U.S. competitors won deals from the UAW to pay newly hired workers about $14 per hour. But American Axle workers say they won't take that big of a pay cut from a company that made $37 million last

[Strikers Wife]

Michigan Lady--Happy Mothers Day!
Ya, now he wants to close the last machining plant in Cheektowaga (suburb of Buffalo). Heard rumors that his son is intereted in buying the IDLE not closed Buffalo plant--wow the more rumors I hear the crazier the Dauch Family gets! I understand the GM offer will be accepted by Dauch but go to Mexico & Thailand. I hope GM refuses that offer if that is the case. We are okay--we knew the strike was coming and planned well ahead-stocked up on groceries, no major purchases, pay down charges but I know alot of younger families could not do that. The more games Dauch plays the worst Corporate America becomes in my mine: Exon Mobile and now AAM!

[Michigan Lady]

Strikers Wife wrote:

Michigan Lady--Happy Mothers Day!
Ya, now he wants to close the last machining plant in Cheektowaga (suburb of Buffalo). Heard rumors that his son is interested in buying the IDLE not closed Buffalo plant--wow the more rumors I hear the crazier the Dauch Family gets! I understand the GM offer will be accepted by Dauch but go to Mexico & Thailand. I hope GM refuses that offer if that is the case. We are okay--we knew the strike was coming and planned well ahead-stocked up on groceries, no major purchases, pay down charges but I know a lot of younger families could not do that. The more games Dauch plays the worst Corporate America becomes in my mine: Exxon Mobile and now AAM!

Strikers wife....Happy Mothers Day to you also
Yes Dauch is one nasty individual. Not sure about GM offer if it only good for settling things here in the US. Heard a rumor that Dauch son is nothing like his dad wants nothing to do with him. I don't know if this is the same son or not. One can only hope and pray for the best.

[mnsparky]

Happy Mothers Day to all the MOMs......Aam wrote,(post 831)”Dauch held everyone hostage”. If you choose to work there that is “your” choice. Saying that you are held hostage is not correct, you have free will to leave.

I work as an electrician in Mpls. MN union #292. I have been doing this for 8 years. Before this I was a union drywall taper, honestly I wasn’t good at this and was there only 6 months.

I don’t wish anything bad on anyone. But I do not support the strikers nor the UAW. I think you brought this on yourselves through poor, short sighted decisions from the union, which focused on greed instead of production efficiency.

The union’s back is against the wall,“what are you going to do?”
The sales and profits of the companies you work for are getting worse everyday. Letter # 775 asked “what have you done for the company to lake things better?” The person was asking “what are you doing to make the company more efficient or profitable?”

Would the union ever say they could build the car with 10% fewer workers or agree to increase the production rate some? So the cost per car would be less, and the company would be more profitable. The union would never say this because it is not in there best interest to have fewer members. The union would never suggest this unless they had to. And if they had to, then they are being reactive. It is better to be proactive, the union should have changed their behavior 30 years ago.

The union is not a young strong thug with a gang anymore, it is a middle aged, out of shape, in debt, fat man. Your gang members are not around to endlessly support you, and you’re to old and fat to muscle your way around!!
People don’t need you, and worse they don’t want to be around your kind. Your reputation of a bar fighter thug is not appealing to anyone anymore. You are middle age, act mature.

Instead of learning a new discipline,(efficiency and team building) the union has turned angry and bitter and yells at the young healthy people jogging on their sidewalk. Saying it is all their fault (us against them mentality). Who wants to support you when all you do is cause trouble? The images I talked about is shared by most of the population of the US. Change your behavior, and your image will change, and we will think of supporting you. We have a choice, we choose to buy a better car, for the same price, which is not built by you.

True success of the union should be, if people had a choice they would “want” to be in a union “not” that they have to be in one.

[Michigan Lady]

mrsparky wrote:

Happy Mothers Day to all the Moms......Aam wrote,(post 831)”Dauch held everyone hostage”. If you choose to work there that is “your” choice. Saying that you are held hostage is not correct, you have free will to leave.
I work as an electrician in Mpls. MN union #292. I have been doing this for 8 years. Before this I was a union drywall taper, honestly I wasn’t good at this and was there only 6 months.
I don’t wish anything bad on anyone. But I do not support the strikers nor the UAW. I think you brought this on yourselves through poor, short sighted decisions from the union, which focused on greed instead of production efficiency.
The union’s back is against the wall,“what are you going to do?”
The sales and profits of the companies you work for are getting worse everyday. Letter # 775 asked “what have you done for the company to lake things better?” The person was asking “what are you doing to make the company more efficient or profitable?”
Would the union ever say they could build the car with 10% fewer workers or agree to increase the production rate some? So the cost per car would be less, and the company would be more profitable. The union would never say this because it is not in there best interest to have fewer members. The union would never suggest this unless they had to. And if they had to, then they are being reactive. It is better to be proactive, the union should have changed their behavior 30 years ago.
The union is not a young strong thug with a gang anymore, it is a middle aged, out of shape, in debt, fat man. Your gang members are not around to endlessly support you, and you’re to old and fat to muscle your way around!!
People don’t need you, and worse they don’t want to be around your kind. Your reputation of a bar fighter thug is not appealing to anyone anymore. You are middle age, act mature.
Instead of learning a new discipline,(efficiency and team building) the union has turned angry and bitter and yells at the young healthy people jogging on their sidewalk. Saying it is all their fault (us against them mentality). Who wants to support you when all you do is cause trouble? The images I talked about is shared by most of the population of the US. Change your behavior, and your image will change, and we will think of supporting you. We have a choice, we choose to buy a better car, for the same price, which is not built by you.
True success of the union should be, if people had a choice they would “want” to be in a union “not” that they have to be in one.

And this comes from someone that is a Union employee. So you are saying it was your choice to be in a Union. This can only make me wonder why you would choose to be in a Union feeling the way you do. Now I am just curious on what you have done for your company do keep the cost down so it could be past on to the costumers. Also does it mean since you are a Union Electrician we should be looking for none Union Electricians because the quality would be so much better and cheaper?
As for greed I believe you have that wrong. Greed is what all of this CEO's are all about. What I see is that this workers want to keep what they have. They have made concessions after concessions have this CEO's done the same? I also would like to know how willing you would be in giving 50% of you wages up.

[Strikers Wife]

Michigan Lady wrote:

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And this comes from someone that is a Union employee. So you are saying it was your choice to be in a Union. This can only make me wonder why you would choose to be in a Union feeling the way you do. Now I am just curious on what you have done for your company do keep the cost down so it could be past on to the costumers. Also does it mean since you are a Union Electrician we should be looking for none Union Electricians because the quality would be so much better and cheaper?
As for greed I believe you have that wrong. Greed is what all of this CEO's are all about. What I see is that this workers want to keep what they have. They have made concessions after concessions have this CEO's done the same? I also would like to know how willing you would be in giving 50% of you wages up.

Great!!! I would like to tell Dauch that he is old and gonna die and can't take it with him! When he meets his maker he is going to have to explain how he wanted it all and screwed thousands of people -Dauch-Lucifer is waiting for you!!

[Mr Weiner]

I'm not saying a word at this point....mmmmm...but I'm listening and I'm so amused. STILL WORKING and UNION BUSTER why don't you voice in to this one boys.

[Lucifer]

I like the man!!! he is a smart man that is why his company is profitable.... think about it, wouldnt you7 do the same thing as him if you could.

Not everything has to be peachy...or ultra religious.

This is survival of the fittest, even the bees are at 66% strenght, ever thought of that... man is next... the day is coming

I am getting ready to ride my hellriders and gather up the troops...

hehhehee

LUCIFER!!!!!

burning hot!!! i am burning hot!!

[Michigan Lady]

Lucifer wrote:

I like the man!!! he is a smart man that is why his company is profitable.... think about it, would you7 do the same thing as him if you could.
Not everything has to be peachy...or ultra religious.
This is survival of the fittest, even the bees are at 66% strength, ever thought of that... man is next... the day is coming
I am getting ready to ride my hellriders and gather up the troops...
hehhehehe
LUCIFER!!!!!
burning hot!!! i am burning hot!!

There is nothing funny talking like that about our troops. Seeing were you from explains a lot.

[huh]

This has got to be the most entertaining forum I've ever seen. I feel like I'm watch Jerry Springer! Stop all your crying and get back to work or better yet, find another job like everyone else does. Ooops, I forgot, UAW workers don't have resumes, so you'll have to keep crying until you either get what you want or better yet, not have a job at all.

[Mr Weiner]

huh wrote:

This has got to be the most entertaining forum I've ever seen. I feel like I'm watch Jerry Springer! Stop all your crying and get back to work or better yet, find another job like everyone else does. Ooops, I forgot, UAW workers don't have resumes, so you'll have to keep crying until you either get what you want or better yet, not have a job at all.

That's why we have the most posts...what a bunch of characters...you can't buy this kind of entertainment.

[Frank]

Michigan Lady wrote:

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There is nothing funny talking like that about our troops. Seeing were you from explains a lot.

Let's face it our troops shouldn't be in Iraq or Afganistan. Since there is no draft that was a decision they made thinking there would be no war, just college tuition.Then here comes the George W. agenda and they have to live with their right decisions and with their wrong ones. Personally I wouldn't allow my kids to fight in this war....it's pointless....being American has got nothing to do with this mess. Ask the parents who lost their kids....for what???

[Strikers Wife]

huh wrote:

This has got to be the most entertaining forum I've ever seen. I feel like I'm watch Jerry Springer! Stop all your crying and get back to work or better yet, find another job like everyone else does. Ooops, I forgot, UAW workers don't have resumes, so you'll have to keep crying until you either get what you want or better yet, not have a job at all.

UAW workers don't need resumes--yet! Again, most are educated and had other careers before AAM--right now it is wait and see the buyouts, buydowns, then proceed to the resume or go back to what the degree is in--walk before you run!!!
Oh ya, keep all options open--already been offered a job in his degree career but needs to stay out until the strike is over--too much time has been invested. Its not crying, its called sending a message to corporate america--keep the jobs here!! Oh anyone know why we have such an immigration problem with all the plants in Mexico??? They are coming here to work?? Is it because we love our freedoms and they want to be part of it?? or perhaps we make a better product because UAW workers are consciencious, intelligent workers--my suburban had over 260,000 miles when I traded it in!!!!