Honda will cease motorcycle production in United States

[Alan]

Just Me Over Here wrote:

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Come on, that's all you got? Oblige me, I did say please and ty you you know. I could look it up, but, I just don't want to.

Enlighten me, what do you mean by "ty you you know"?

Like I said to you before:
Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

[Just Me Over Here]

Alan wrote:

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Enlighten me, what do you mean by "ty you you know"?
Like I said to you before:
Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

Excuse me, there was only supposed to be one "you" in there and TY means THANK YOU, it went right along with the please.

Yeah, yeah, amuse me and come up with something else, you're sounding a bit salty.

[Alan]

Just Me Over Here wrote:

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Excuse me, there was only supposed to be one "you" in there and TY means THANK YOU, it went right along with the please.
Yeah, yeah, amuse me and come up with something else, you're sounding a bit salty.

Wasn't trying to sound salty, was serious.

There is a legend that lemmings, a small rodent, committs mass suicide by following one another off a cliff and into the sea. Understand the comparison to hd riders?

[Realist]

who the hell cares, ride what you want. stop cyber arguing with idiots all day

[Alan]

Realist wrote:

who the hell cares, ride what you want. stop cyber arguing with idiots all day

It gets kinda addictive...and is really fun in a sick kinda way. ;)

[True Patriot]

Just for the record, Alan avoided Lebowski's question and has never said what he rides. I think he either doesn't have a bike at all, or it is a Jap bike and he doesn't want to admit it.

[Alan]

True Patriot wrote:

Just for the record, Alan avoided Lebowski's question and has never said what he rides. I think he either doesn't have a bike at all, or it is a Jap bike and he doesn't want to admit it.

You are nothing but a racist. Oh wait, you have a love fest with Japanese cars. Can you say bi-polar??

[Maurice Colgan]

Civilised engineeers worked for years to make engines that were quiet and smooth.

Nevertheless.

Elvis Presley rode Harleys and that guy was so loud you can still hear him around the world today. Thank goodness!

http://irelandtoo.blogspot.com

[True Patriot]

Alan wrote:

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You are nothing but a racist. Oh wait, you have a love fest with Japanese cars. Can you say bi-polar??

Again, no answer from Alan.

Keep digging buddy, the truth is in there somewhere.

[Alan]

True Patriot wrote:

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Again, no answer from Alan.
Keep digging buddy, the truth is in there somewhere.

I don't need to dig any deeper than this rant in the I-76 message board to get the truth about what kind of human waste you are.

"There is just about nothing than I hate more than the idiots that coming flying right up to the merge point and expect someone to let them in. The only thing I think I hate more is the pussified wimps who do let them in, because if they didn't and everyone worked together to leave a few of these morons twisting in the breeze sitting on the berm, this kind of crap would stop almost instantly.

I keep a cup full of pennies in my car for these idiots. After I have merged over and am sitting in traffic, I roll down my window and launch a handful of pennies at any car that comes screaming past me in the other lane. I get great personal satisfaction from hearing the pennies bouncing off their cars, no doubt leaving paint chips all over their hoods and fenders."

You SERIOUSLY need some help.

Is it because Bergmeister has been out of town for so long, you are coming a little unwrapped? LOL!!

[The Big Lebowski]

I see your diversionary tactics continue, Alan.

[Alan]

What will knowing what brand of bike I ride do for you? I am not here to make you feel better about yourself.

I started coming here (message boards) to dispute some of the ignorance I was reading.

I would not buy a Honda, harleys are an overpriced technological p_o_s primarily ridden by poseurs and I strongly believe we should support the Big 3.

Get it?

[The Big Lebowski]

Alan wrote:

What will knowing what brand of bike I ride do for you? I am not here to make you feel better about yourself.
I started coming here (message boards) to dispute some of the ignorance I was reading.
I would not buy a Honda, harleys are an overpriced technological p_o_s primarily ridden by poseurs and I strongly believe we should support the Big 3.
Get it?

No, I don't get it. From the sounds of it, you don't have a dog in this hunt at all (ie. don't own a bike), but instead, you are just using this thread to extend your argument of economic isolationism in the purchase of vehicles.

[Just Me Over Here]

Alan wrote:

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Wasn't trying to sound salty, was serious.
There is a legend that lemmings, a small rodent, committs mass suicide by following one another off a cliff and into the sea. Understand the comparison to hd riders?

Ok, I see now, and no, I wouldn't consider myself a lemming. Although, yes I love Harley's, I have better things to spend my money on than a $450.00 dollar leather.

[Just Me Over Here]

Shoot, should have been "I see now", so much for speed typing.

[Steve G]

Alan wrote:

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I was never dumb enough to buy one in the first place. The PROFITS from Honda products ASSEMBLED here goes back to Japan.

So you never buy anything made outside the US, or where the profits to go overseas companies? Food, clothing, etc?

Wake up, the world is a global economy. If you think buying American made goods, or goods made by an American company (which are assembled overseas) is helping Americans out some how you're living in a fantasy land.

Or do you really not buy Hondas because you think American cars and motorcycles are better?

[Steve G]

Alan wrote:

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"Loud pipes save lives" is one of the most ignorant concepts I've ever heard. All loud pipes do is disturb the peace and make people dislike motorcyclists even more.
You have a computer, look it up.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
I believe this could apply to some women as well. LOL !!!

Exactly. And even with a loud pipe, you don't have to always blast the pipes when taking off, riding past other motorcyclists etc. It does nothing but make others mad, and that will lead to them being banned, or motorcycles being banned from certain places altogether.

[Just Me Over Here]

Steve G wrote:

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Exactly. And even with a loud pipe, you don't have to always blast the pipes when taking off, riding past other motorcyclists etc. It does nothing but make others mad, and that will lead to them being banned, or motorcycles being banned from certain places altogether.

Usually Steve, I would say you are pretty right on the money, but this one, I STILL have to disagree with ALL you men.

Why do all emergency vehicles have lights and sirens? To alert motorists of an approaching emergency situation. They alert the driver to turn down the radio, pay attention & pull over.

The same could be said about having loud pipes. They alert the deaf, litte 87 year old lady there is a biker next to her and she probably shouldn't meander over into the other lane as she always does.

They alert that twenty year old girl, who is driving too fast as she's checking out her hair in the rearview, that there is a biker coming through the next intersection, slow the hell down.

They alert the Mom in the Minivan, refereeing three kids in the back seat, don't back out of the driveway, there's a bike coming.

You get my point.

While I will say, yes, ultimately it is the drivers responsibility to pay attention to the road, you and I both know, some days, we share the road with complete idiots who shouldn't have a license.

While I will agree that loud pipes at 3 AM are annoying, my husband and I don't fit into that category, we have respect for our neighbors, but while we are cruising around on a Saturday afternoon, it sure makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing the car next to us, HEARS US.

Loud pipes DO save lives, hell, I even have the shirt.

[rider]

You can make any bike really loud. It's just that the guys who buy HD's tend to be the biggest tards.

[NEOH Beemer Rider]

Just Me Over Here wrote:

Why do all emergency vehicles have lights and sirens? To alert motorists of an approaching emergency situation. They alert the driver to turn down the radio, pay attention & pull over.
The same could be said about having loud pipes. They alert the deaf, litte 87 year old lady there is a biker next to her and she probably shouldn't meander over into the other lane as she always does.
They alert that twenty year old girl, who is driving too fast as she's checking out her hair in the rearview, that there is a biker coming through the next intersection, slow the hell down.
They alert the Mom in the Minivan, refereeing three kids in the back seat, don't back out of the driveway, there's a bike coming.
You get my point........
Loud pipes DO save lives, hell, I even have the shirt.

This is completely contrary to the physics of sound.

In your example above - why do the emergency vehicles all have their sirens directed FORWARD of the vehicle? As you said correctly - to alert motorists ahead that an emergency vehicle is coming.

Contrast that to a motorcycle with loud pipes - that projects its sound DIRECTLY rearward. Only a SMALL portion of the sound - mostly through reverberation - is actually directed ahead of the bike. Sorry - but this is the way the physics of sound work. You can't change that and it totally defeats the argument that 'loud pipes save lives' by alerting motorists AHEAD of the bike that it's coming. It's a myth - and no statistic exists to prove that 'loud pipes save lives'. I defy anyone to produce a study that shows it to be true. Take your time - we'll be waiting (and probably old and gray by the time you get back to us LOL).

In fact - it was reported at the AMA Noise Summit in 2003 that empirical evidence exists that showed motorcyclists who had modified their exhausts were OVER represented in crashes. Though not a cause and effect - it's exactly the OPPOSITE correlation you would need to prove the 'safety' of loud pipes.