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camry junk
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The 07 and 08 camry have a dangerous HESITATION downshifting problem that becomes normal when the two tsb's do not work. just GOOGLE 07 camry transmission problem You will see the truth!!!!!
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2nd amendment
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Among you soon wrote: <quoted text>
Folks lets face it, building autos was good for the country back in the 50's, 60's and even 70's. But now, many countries can build better autos for far less cost than the USA. Its called competitive advantage, yes economics, remember that. That was the class you opted to swap-out for gym. Remember? Well, its back and yes, you should aim a bit higher now, as those jobs are and should be long gone. get a clue and get on with it! Seems to me that at least Toyotas have never been cheaper than a competing American car model.
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Refchris
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I have worked in several UAW facilities. Can you go union people please explain to me the logic of having 10 people standing doing nothing and getting paid well for it? Please explain to me why I had to have a union electrician work with me and a job I can do in 2 hours now takes 12? remember the time over 8 hours is now overtime and the worker is being paid time and a half. This explains to me clearly why these companies can lay off thousands of workers at a time and still have no effect on production.
The UAW just like the union at Harley exist solely to keep lazy ignorant morons employed and keep the employers hands tied. Just remember what happened to the proud union members at Caterpillar in York. Can you say UNEMPLOYED?
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LCGirl
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Toyota didn't just make Hybrids in 2000 but started in 1996. I own a Prius and love the car. However, I have had my phone number and name at various dealers in Las Cruces telling them. If you get a Hybrid (Ford, Chevy, et al) call me. Yep its been over 1 year now, no call. Yesterday I made my track back to various dealers. "Got any Hybrids??" Nothing..
I am ready to trade my 2004 Prius for a newer Hybrid. Point me in the right direction and I am a buyer ;-)
For Sale 2004 Prius -- as soon as I find a newer Hybrid with the same Gas Mileage range (I get about 53 mpg, lots of city driving)
And no, please I don't want an SUV or Pickup Truck. Actually what I would really love is the Electric Car GM had a few years ago. OMG that would be so awesome. Watch the movie "Who killed the electric car" The US was a frontrunner and than killed it. Yep, its probably not a good thing to have a President who makes his money in oil eh?
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Just_Me
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Refchris wrote: Just remember what happened to the proud union members at Caterpillar in York. Can you say UNEMPLOYED? To a degree, that's a different story. Sure, they were negotiating new contract terms, but the union in this case wouldn't budge on anything. They had the "gimme, gimme" attitude that gives unions a bad name. Caterpillar hung around for a long time but the UAW local at that time made a mistake by holding out like they did. And it cost them. Caterpillar didn't move a bunch of stuff overseas, they redistributed the work to other US plants. They had enough of York. It still doesn't negate the positive component of a union. People only complain about union member wages. Well, maybe you should join a union yourself if you want that salary. With your membership, you get written benefits. You get hard, detailed rules on how discipline and discharge is handled and aren't at the whim of somebody's bad attitude if they desire to fire you for no reason. You tend to get better benefits with regard to paid time off. You get help in preserving your seniority in case of layoffs or temporary work shortages. Unless of course you believe you don't have an issue with that from all those years putting in work for the company that appreciates you SO MUCH. Basically, unions help keep employers honest, in return, employers get a workforce that comes with a written set of rules and agreed upon practices. As far as the 12 hour electrical job, Refchris, what were YOU doing during those extra 8 hours? Did you take your issue to the worker's supervisor right away? Please, give us some details so we can adequately justify your argument. A talk with his immediate non-union supervisor might have addressed the problem. Or maybe, you were a contractor who got paid by the hour also. What did you do with all that extra money you made?
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Um no
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Tom wrote: <quoted text>If you supplement with solar panels you may never have to get electricity from a power plant, depending on where you live. For only, what,$30k? Hey that sounds like a great deal.
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Refchris
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I spoke with both Union and non union supervisors in order to get the job done quicker. What else can I do? I am several hundred miles from home and the customer wants the work done? I cannot just say the heck with it and leave. I was bugging these people the entire time trying to work but I was not allowed to touch anything because of the union.
I wish I could have said the heck with this and left but then I would have been unemployed. The biggest problem I had was the union employee bragging about how he puts in 40 hours a week and does almost nothing. He was also bragging about the vacation home he bought in Florida as a result of a grievance he had filed. Please explain to me the benefit of paying huge sums of money to people for doing no work,I cannot figure this out. In my point of view, unions keep a lot of lazy irresponsible slobs employed because they tie the employers hands.
Now before you jump me, I am not saying every union member is a lazy slob, I am stating that there are lazy slobs in the unions and the biggest difference between a union lazy slob and a regular lazy slob is the regular lazy slob can be fired.
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Toronto Bob
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Interesting enough, that person identified above as "Camry Junk" has posted the same message in at least 25 other Toyota sites.
Not only that, the ISP used by that person is the same one used with a dozen or so other usernames badmouthing Toyota.
Must have a serious (and perhaps obsessive) hangup about Toyota for someone to do all that just to make a point!!
Makes one wonder about the integrity of anything this person says!!
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RamRod
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Just_Me, You think I'm ignorant enough to miss out on the "average" and use it like that would be a good argument on behalf of unions?
A college degree, much to the same extent, doesn't carry any weight with me either.$45K? For what? Good for you? OK. For the economy, and automakers in particular, NOT!
I work for a living and when I'm productive, can earn $45K, WHEN I'M NOT, I'M UNEMPLOYED!
What part of personal accountability didn't you understand?
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Just_Me
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Refchris wrote: Please explain to me the benefit of paying huge sums of money to people for doing no work,I cannot figure this out. In my point of view, unions keep a lot of lazy irresponsible slobs employed because they tie the employers hands. .....just like the US Government Refchris wrote: Now before you jump me, I am not saying every union member is a lazy slob, I am stating that there are lazy slobs in the unions and the biggest difference between a union lazy slob and a regular lazy slob is the regular lazy slob can be fired. At least you kept your perspective on it. Unfortunately, these are the jokers that give unions bad names. Unfortunately, you don't hear the other stories. The ones that go, "Once again, for the 60th straight week, he diligently met his work quota for the week."
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Matt_PSU
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camry junk wrote: The 07 and 08 camry have a dangerous HESITATION downshifting problem that becomes normal when the two tsb's do not work. just GOOGLE 07 camry transmission problem
You will see the truth!!!!! The v6 accords do the same thing google accord v6 auto transmission... This kind of stuff happens to all the automakers, you just need to know what to avoid from each make.
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America
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Ditto Head wrote: This is good news. By definition, this is not inflation since wages are not going up. Nor is it a recession because Bush said so. It's just prices going up on everything that people need and wages staying stagnant. This must be some sort of economy stimulation strategy or science experiment to see what huge masses of people will do when they have no money to live on. What we really need is wealth management for the new poor.
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Just_Me
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RamRod wrote: What part of personal accountability didn't you understand? Personal accountability in a union manufacturing industry means, make your quota and move on to the next task. Although non-union workplaces rely on preplanning too, term length on union contracts are considered from a management point of view. Before management buys into a new contract, in which they'll be bound by certain rules, they need to plan well in advance the amount of work that can be done in that period of time (several years). When management completes that task and if the deal is closed, there you go. Would it be beneficial to stuff the working schedule to the point that it overloads workers endlessly? Certainly not. Before you even think of it, stabbing at a union worker's "available work time" is a senseless argument. Management puts themselves in a better position by reducing the overall workload (on average compared to non-union industries) so any work stoppages or days off (sick, vacation) can be absorbed without wrecking production. Now, if management relaxes the workload too much, they end up promoting the "lazy worker" attitude people talk about. Pay scales still go up, as negotiated in the contract, and people appear to get paid more for doing less. Frankly, it's management's fault for letting that happen. They hired the people in the first place. They're bound by the contract to not fire a person that appears lazy, especially if that person is fulfilling their work obligations and keeping on schedule. Sure, they can move the person to another task temporarily. The worker understands it because that situation is probably written into the contract. Sometimes a worker is unable to do anything else on the job until another worker finishes a task, maybe because adding another worker to the lagging task is a safety or training issue. Especially in the manufacturing industry. If you have an issue with union workers appearing to get paid a lot for doing nothing, maybe you need to direct your complaints to management. Toss out bad management and get new people in that can produce a more efficient productivity schedule.
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Yikes
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You suggest management is the problem, while at the same time highlighting how union contracts have handcuffed management. There is no way in this global economy that any firm's management is going to be able to "preplan in advance" what the next 3 years' workload is going to look like with any kind of accuracy. This is not a management failing, it is reality of the world today. The result is that the firm ends up with an unwieldy labor force that is uncompetitive by design (by contract), to the ultimate detriment to the very workers the union hopes to protect. I came from a union family and was a strong union supporter until I saw some of the practices and saw too many union jobs and entire union plants lost when the labor costs in the products simply became uncompetitive with the international competition. What's better - trying to bargain for work rules and wages that are unsustainable in a global economy ultimately resulting in job loss, or allowing more flexibility to at least have a chance to keep jobs here? The straw that broke the camel's back for me came when I moved into a new work area and was not allowed to hang a coat hook with two screws on my wall. Had to take my time to write up a work order, wait two weeks for it to make its way through the system, had a carpenter finally show up without any tools to "scope things out", disappear for two hours to get tools, and four hours later my hook with two screws was ready to go. I work with my hands; I could have mounted the darn thing in less time than it took my to write the work order, but risked a union grievance if I did so. Just_Me wrote: <quoted text>
Personal accountability in a union manufacturing industry means, make your quota and move on to the next task.
Although non-union workplaces rely on preplanning too, term length on union contracts are considered from a management point of view. Before management buys into a new contract, in which they'll be bound by certain rules, they need to plan well in advance the amount of work that can be done in that period of time (several years). When management completes that task and if the deal is closed, there you go.
Would it be beneficial to stuff the working schedule to the point that it overloads workers endlessly? Certainly not. Before you even think of it, stabbing at a union worker's "available work time" is a senseless argument.
Management puts themselves in a better position by reducing the overall workload (on average compared to non-union industries) so any work stoppages or days off (sick, vacation) can be absorbed without wrecking production.
Now, if management relaxes the workload too much, they end up promoting the "lazy worker" attitude people talk about. Pay scales still go up, as negotiated in the contract, and people appear to get paid more for doing less. Frankly, it's management's fault for letting that happen. They hired the people in the first place. They're bound by the contract to not fire a person that appears lazy, especially if that person is fulfilling their work obligations and keeping on schedule.
Sure, they can move the person to another task temporarily. The worker understands it because that situation is probably written into the contract. Sometimes a worker is unable to do anything else on the job until another worker finishes a task, maybe because adding another worker to the lagging task is a safety or training issue. Especially in the manufacturing industry.
If you have an issue with union workers appearing to get paid a lot for doing nothing, maybe you need to direct your complaints to management. Toss out bad management and get new people in that can produce a more efficient productivity schedule.
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Ford guy
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I usually buy used cars and drive them forever.
The Ford Maverick 6 cylinder was one of the best cars I ever drove. The oil could be changed from under the hood and the thing could not be stopped in the snow.
I have a Toyota pick-up now and it's killing me with maintenance.
When the imports invaded our market they first used small generic rides. Many had safety issues. I had a close friend killed in a little Honda (early 70's) due to a hesitation issue. As the imports expanded their product lines, the quality also improved. Now, as Toyota rises to the top, with a full spectrum of models similar to our "big three" offerings, quality issues are raising their ugly head.
And we're back to the old adage: "can't have both quality and quantity".
The fact is, vehicles made these days are more reliable and safer than they have ever been. My only problem is the "check engine" light. When that baby comes on I can't fix it in the driveway.
I, like just about everyone else, must go to the dealer for whatever the repair. And pay the piper.
To all automakers, I would request that they produce a safe, reliable, economical and comforable ride that won't kill us in maintenance.
And please get the MPG up, so we don't have to sit at home for lack of gas money.
Ford Focus and Honda Civic seem sensible to me.
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ford sucks
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buy foreign cars ..
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Tom
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Um no wrote: <quoted text>
For only, what,$30k?
Hey that sounds like a great deal. First of all, your price of $30k is completely unfounded as there is nobody doing this as of now. Second, even if the initial cost was $30k, you would still be saving tons of money in terms of total operation cost of a vehicle. Not only would you not be paying for gasoline, but your other maintenance costs would drop significantly, as there are many fewer parts in an electric vehicle. Also, you wouldn't need any of the emissions sensors and other bullsh*t that are required on gas vehicles.
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Judge it!
