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RobtA

Newark, CA

#1 Mar 29, 2010
Bah. Another reason why leftist noise is not to be given much credence. If the professionals have something to say professionally, let them say it, without recruiting an entertained public.

I don't happen to be a gun nut, but I'm told that firing the full clip of an AK-47 is so much fun that you could probably get peaceniks to sign gun-rights petitions on the way out of the shooting range.

Since: May 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#2 Mar 29, 2010
I've been a member of the Aquarium since it opened. I'm not in favor of this idea.
Had it with junkies

Alviso, CA

#3 Mar 29, 2010
RobtA wrote:
Bah. Another reason why leftist noise is not to be given much credence. If the professionals have something to say professionally, let them say it, without recruiting an entertained public.
I don't happen to be a gun nut, but I'm told that firing the full clip of an AK-47 is so much fun that you could probably get peaceniks to sign gun-rights petitions on the way out of the shooting range.
Talk about "noise", RobtA....you are a major source on Internet hot air.
diogenes

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#4 Mar 29, 2010
"Is it OK for a museum, or zoo or aquarium to have a point of view? I believe it is," said Julie Packard, executive director of the Monterey Bay Aquarium. "Our audience is asking for it. In this world of information overload, people are looking for a trusted source of information."

Actually, no Julie, it isn't "OK". The Monterey Bay Aquarium has no business becoming a tool of this whacked-out political agenda. Stick to real science and stay out of social engineering.

This is going to cost the aquarium - at least to the extent I'm involved. Since its opening, it has been my destination of choice for entertaining out-of-area guests. I will neither visit, nor recommend nor take guests there as long as you insist on pushing false propaganda. This is not an idle threat. It is going to cost you thousands of dollars because of this policy.
pay the tax

United States

#5 Mar 29, 2010
I guess it is OK for an aquarium to have a political opinion, as long as they are not registered as a charity that does not pay taxes. I guess Julie has decided she would like to start paying taxes to Monterey County out of the warmth of her heart.
rwc

Stockton, CA

#6 Mar 29, 2010
It's clear that David Packard is gone. He founded MBARI so scientists and engineers could 'do' science at a high level instead of spending half their time persuing grants. Since grants need a problem to address, the 'problem' never gets solved. In some cases, the problem needs to be created in order to be studied. RIP, Dave.
Quimby

San Francisco, CA

#7 Mar 29, 2010
you appear to have missed the point of the exhibit completely. The message is conservation. If you are so easily enraged by politics then you probably should stay home. I'm sure you get your global warming science from all the same fair and balanced source(s).
diogenes wrote:
"Is it OK for a museum, or zoo or aquarium to have a point of view? I believe it is," said Julie Packard, executive director of the Monterey Bay Aquarium. "Our audience is asking for it. In this world of information overload, people are looking for a trusted source of information."
Actually, no Julie, it isn't "OK". The Monterey Bay Aquarium has no business becoming a tool of this whacked-out political agenda. Stick to real science and stay out of social engineering.
This is going to cost the aquarium - at least to the extent I'm involved. Since its opening, it has been my destination of choice for entertaining out-of-area guests. I will neither visit, nor recommend nor take guests there as long as you insist on pushing false propaganda. This is not an idle threat. It is going to cost you thousands of dollars because of this policy.
Quimby

San Francisco, CA

#8 Mar 29, 2010
rwc wrote:
It's clear that David Packard is gone. He founded MBARI so scientists and engineers could 'do' science at a high level instead of spending half their time persuing grants. Since grants need a problem to address, the 'problem' never gets solved. In some cases, the problem needs to be created in order to be studied. RIP, Dave.
FYI, MBARI and the aquarium share little more than words in their name. But thanks for overeacting.
Publican

San Francisco, CA

#9 Mar 29, 2010
diogenes wrote:
"Is it OK for a museum, or zoo or aquarium to have a point of view? I believe it is," said Julie Packard, executive director of the Monterey Bay Aquarium. "Our audience is asking for it. In this world of information overload, people are looking for a trusted source of information."
Actually, no Julie, it isn't "OK". The Monterey Bay Aquarium has no business becoming a tool of this whacked-out political agenda. Stick to real science and stay out of social engineering.
This is going to cost the aquarium - at least to the extent I'm involved. Since its opening, it has been my destination of choice for entertaining out-of-area guests. I will neither visit, nor recommend nor take guests there as long as you insist on pushing false propaganda. This is not an idle threat. It is going to cost you thousands of dollars because of this policy.
All of you who protest this - very minor - shift in the Aquarium's publicly stated goal are not paying attention to the bigger picture. You behave as if the Aquarium was always non-committal about conserving the ocean environments, and has suddenly become some raving machine hell-bent on some imagined agenda socialist/communist propaganda indoctrination program. The very nature of the Monterey Bay Aquarium is of giving the public a glimpse into one of the marvels of our planet. Of course it is in teh nature of their work to defend and promote ecological and environmental awareness and stewardship. How the heck do you think the Aquarium could exist without a policy of direct advocacy and interest?

Only the "true believers" of the right-wing extortionists would believe that this article indicates a "whacked out political agenda". There was nothing in this article that suggested you had to sign some oath of allegiance when you enter the Aquarium or when you exit it. Get over yourself. Ultimately this is an educational and entertaining place to visit. What you do with your experience here is your own choice.
Tom

Daly City, CA

#10 Mar 29, 2010
Xanthippe wrote:
I've been a member of the Aquarium since it opened. I'm not in favor of this idea.
I've been a member of the Aquarium since it opened. I am in favor of this idea.
rwc

Stockton, CA

#11 Mar 29, 2010
Quimby wrote:
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FYI, MBARI and the aquarium share little more than words in their name. But thanks for overeacting.
I spent more than several years at MBARI during startup. I know the difference between the organizations. Do a few things including a check of funding and the board of directors.
blue fin

Santa Cruz, CA

#13 Mar 29, 2010
The California Academy of Sciences has both a climate change exhibit and an evolution exhibit as does the Smithsonian Natural History Museum in D.C. What all these museums are reacting to are the anti-science religious fundamentalists who deny that evolution is real and humans adversely impact the environment including the climate. You can't be passive in the face of fundamentalist propaganda and their attempts to make school text books lie to our children and deny basic laws of the universe for their own political gain.
old timer

Fremont, CA

#12 Mar 29, 2010
Sign a pledge to bike more, I am to old and stop eating meat, I've eaten it all my life. A point of view is fine, but this is a bit far out.
MHF

Tucson, AZ

#14 Mar 29, 2010
Thank you Julie Packard. It IS the role of an interpretive center to clarify the meaning of the science to the public. Clearly many people just don't understand the conservation implications and the role of the aquarium in filling that gap is vital. Fear is a poor substitute for information and truth.
Jimmy on heavy machinery

Dublin, CA

#15 Mar 29, 2010
My last visit there was great for the kids, but left me a little soured on the aquarium's obvious advocacy for the whole global warming scam. Notice that many "scientists" are now calling it "climate change", since NO RECENT WARMING CAN BE PROVEN.
Had it with junkies

Alviso, CA

#16 Mar 29, 2010
rwc wrote:
It's clear that David Packard is gone. He founded MBARI so scientists and engineers could 'do' science at a high level instead of spending half their time persuing grants. Since grants need a problem to address, the 'problem' never gets solved. In some cases, the problem needs to be created in order to be studied. RIP, Dave.
This was created NOT to be a zoo or a themed exhibition (both of which it has become), but a place to educate the public about the environment, and to celebrate the diversity of our Monterey Bay sanctuary. The move (back) towards advocacy is a good start, but I am hoping that the MBA continues to move back to its original vision. Forget the trapping and exhibiting of sharks to bring in the crowds. Concentrate on our local ocean life, and local ocean and coastal problems. Find a new home for the penguins. Focus.
SV-AquariumMembe r

San Jose, CA

#17 Mar 29, 2010
We went yesterday to the member preview...didn't read a word of the propaganda... just looked at the animals...which is why we go to the aquarium, and have been members for years. I could care less about all the stuff on the walls around them. Preach all you want, if you don't care, or don't agree don't read it, or don't go...either way, it's a free country
Tortuga Azul

San Jose, CA

#18 Mar 29, 2010
"James Lovelock: Humans are too stupid to prevent climate change" See URL below

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/mar/29...

The IPCC's 2007 report concluded that there was a 90% chance that greenhouse gas emissions from human activities are causing global warming, but the panel has been criticised over a mistaken claim that all Himalayan glaciers could melt by 2030."

This blog truly amazes me most of the time. Most of you should go back to school, maybe even UCSC...
Ex Liberal

United States

#19 Mar 29, 2010
..."They'll be asked to type letters at kiosks urging their senators to pass a global warming law. They'll be coaxed to take a pledge to bike more and eat less meat."

Oh, my, God! Looks like they've dived into political hoax of man-made-global warming joining the corrupt Al Gore media circus! They're expecting the public to guzzle the tainted kool-aid! Looks like we won't be spending our money at this charade organization any longer until they wise up!
blue fin

Santa Cruz, CA

#20 Mar 29, 2010
Jimmy on heavy machinery wrote:
My last visit there was great for the kids, but left me a little soured on the aquarium's obvious advocacy for the whole global warming scam. Notice that many "scientists" are now calling it "climate change", since NO RECENT WARMING CAN BE PROVEN.
They call it climate change because the public gets confused about what global warming means. Global warming refers to the overall increase in the amount of energy in the global climate leading to more extreme weather including stronger, more frequent hurricanes, changes in rainfall patterns, hotter summers, and yes...colder winters. For example, the record snow storm in D.C. is consistent with climate change models but because of the 'global warming' moniker, lay people and fox news pundits saw it as a refutation of climate change. Of course, they never bothered studying climatology or differential equations before denouncing scientists who spent decades learning their craft and aren't paid off by oil companies.

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