Flight, job cuts at Delta hubs worry smaller cities

Aug 29, 2012 Full story: The Detroit News 27

Delta Air Lines is significantly cutting jobs, making huge cutbacks in flights or both at its hubs in Memphis, Minneapolis and Cincinnati.

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Drinkin the Delta koolaid

United States

#1 Aug 29, 2012
Wow, couldn't see this one coming... yeah right. Delta is sticking to their game plan. They smile and tell you everything is going to be alright... sure you're jobs are safe. They are the slickest outfit out there right now, and have absolutely no regard for anything other than the bottom line. The Delta apologists here will say that it's nothing more than "good business" and predictably, they are "proud" to work for such a forward thinking company that takes care of it's employees. Well... the group of employees "being taken care of" shrinks every day, and one day the apologists will likely experience what many of us already have - a airline that doesn't give a damn about you, your family, your career, your life. If you work for Delta you are a number, expendable, and prime for replacement once you make too much. All of this I could stomach if I didn't have to see the commercials that portray Delta as company that cares about their customers and employees. Keep drinkin' the koolaid Delta apologists.

Since: Apr 08

Tulsa, OK

#2 Aug 29, 2012
Pay attention you AMR employees that think USAir is the best thing since slice bread. You'll be next if a takeover takes place.

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#3 Aug 29, 2012
tulaaretired wrote:
Pay attention you AMR employees that think USAir is the best thing since slice bread. You'll be next if a takeover takes place.
The career ramper and ticket agent are done... DL should have known..They have DGS. A no benefit, low wage arm. A bit like AMR services was. AMR services is no more, but Eagle has taken it's place. As long as someone is willing to do your job for minimum wage and no benefits, NO ONE IN ANY INDUSTRY IS SAFE. Profits, and return to investors. Live large on the greed now, one day, and it may be a decade or more away, this will all come home to roost. AA is contracting out all it's mid and small sized stations. Hey hub boys, those specialty jobs. Cabin, employee bus driver,(wait those are gone too). Cargo, interline transfer driver, bagroom. None of it is safe. AMR made 135 million in July alone. TWU hasn't even had it's what appear to be unneeded layoffs yet. Too bad you voted for the contract proposals. Even if you had an arguement for Judge Lane, it no longer exsists. the terms were accepted.
Just Another BK

United States

#4 Aug 31, 2012
Sounds like Delta is concentrating its equipment towards the Major Hubs just like USAirways did years ago. Pittsburgh went from a Hub (500+FL) to Focus City (125+FL)to less than 40 FL in a matter of a few years. So much for making promises to all New Delta employees that they will keep its Hubs intact.4050

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#5 Aug 31, 2012
Just Another BK wrote:
Sounds like Delta is concentrating its equipment towards the Major Hubs just like USAirways did years ago. Pittsburgh went from a Hub (500+FL) to Focus City (125+FL)to less than 40 FL in a matter of a few years. So much for making promises to all New Delta employees that they will keep its Hubs intact.4050
The new wave. Get rid of all real employees in stations under "X" number of flights. That factor grows until all employees are in hubs only. Hubs are departmented.. cut that section by section. I would elaborate more but I'm tired of the whole thing
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#6 Sep 1, 2012
For the same reason our inter-cities fall apart. People who had nothing to do with building it move in and strip out all it's worth.

Scum, resides at both ends of the scale.
Angry White United Pilot

Everett, WA

#7 Sep 1, 2012
It's about time they fired those overweight southern negros.
Smith Street Blues

Houston, TX

#8 Sep 23, 2012
Angry White United Pilot wrote:
It's about time they fired those overweight southern negros.
That's no way to talk about yo' momma...
Old NWA Guy

Monroe, NC

#9 Sep 24, 2012
not a fine wine wrote:
For the same reason our inter-cities fall apart. People who had nothing to do with building it move in and strip out all it's worth.
Scum, resides at both ends of the scale.
Inter-cities fall apart What the hell does that mean?
not a fine wine

Esko, MN

#10 Oct 1, 2012
When people who had nothing to do with building the place move in, They respect nothing. Al checchi & pot head wilson, did nothing for nwa. They took everything.

The same thing has been happening to our cities. People move in who have no idea or clue to the reason the city came to be. The point is... there is rich scum, and there is poor scum. The end result is the same... the once good is gutted and the great purpose it served is forever forgotten. The pre checchi/wilson NWA was a great airline, and did many things to improve air travel. Now it's gone and I don't see delta ever taking its place. Like so many other things today... it's all about the money. No one is trying to do it better. They have turned the airlines into an air borne cab service. DeltaJet is their Limo service.

Like I said... when
Toad

Lagos, Nigeria

#11 May 3, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
For the same reason our inter-cities fall apart. People who had nothing to do with building it move in and strip out all it's worth.
Scum, resides at both ends of the scale.
Could not find you anywhere after DAL stock price soared, profits soared, employee morale soars......how about those 3 yr predictions of Anderson and the DAL failure post merger w/ NWA. Where are all you doom-sayers??
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#12 May 3, 2013
Toad wrote:
<quoted text>
Could not find you anywhere after DAL stock price soared, profits soared, employee morale soars......how about those 3 yr predictions of Anderson and the DAL failure post merger w/ NWA. Where are all you doom-sayers??
You are right. Well, shut my mouth almost 18 bucks now. You are on your way to the pinnacle of your career.
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#13 May 7, 2013
Toad wrote:
<quoted text>
Could not find you anywhere after DAL stock price soared, profits soared, employee morale soars......how about those 3 yr predictions of Anderson and the DAL failure post merger w/ NWA. Where are all you doom-sayers??
Do you get any of that raise RA got? How much does his 42% raise soar the morale? This is what northwest/RA/DS/SG meant when they said, "know your place".
You're in it for the chump change. They're in for the gold!
Toad

Buffalo, NY

#14 May 7, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text>Do you get any of that raise RA got? How much does his 42% raise soar the morale? This is what northwest/RA/DS/SG meant when they said, "know your place".
You're in it for the chump change. They're in for the gold!
I get to lick RA's dirty poop chute once in a while when he feels the need for a good lick down and around, so yes it is a trickle down economy. Although the downsizing of the lavatories means I will have to find other areas on the aircraft to practice my oral talents. All things considered I am still the the big gay cheerleader of the month at DAL and PROUD of it and willing to do whatever it takes to keep management happy. Does anyone have a mint I think I swallowed a kling-on.
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#15 May 8, 2013
Toad wrote:
<quoted text>I get to lick RA's dirty poop chute once in a while when he feels the need for a good lick down and around, so yes it is a trickle down economy. Although the downsizing of the lavatories means I will have to find other areas on the aircraft to practice my oral talents. All things considered I am still the the big gay cheerleader of the month at DAL and PROUD of it and willing to do whatever it takes to keep management happy. Does anyone have a mint I think I swallowed a kling-on.
Toad, may have a completely different point of view, but yours ain't it. If we all thought as you, than RA would have been right to have treated use as he did.
Spade a Spade

Rosemount, MN

#16 May 8, 2013
Toad wrote:
<quoted text>I get to lick RA's dirty poop chute once in a while when he feels the need for a good lick down and around, so yes it is a trickle down economy. Although the downsizing of the lavatories means I will have to find other areas on the aircraft to practice my oral talents. All things considered I am still the the big gay cheerleader of the month at DAL and PROUD of it and willing to do whatever it takes to keep management happy. Does anyone have a mint I think I swallowed a kling-on.
I believe this to be the only truth you have ever posted on here.
Old NWA Guy

Monroe, NC

#17 May 15, 2013
There Is Spade again , Posting about something he knows absolutly Zip about. HE chould stick to what he knows like pissing on graves and intimidating wives and kids
Henry

Las Vegas, NV

#18 May 20, 2013
It has been years since I've been to this forum. I see NAFW and spuds a spuds are still on here crying in thier beer over a failed walkout 7 YEARS AGO!. I would have figured they got a life by now but I guess I must have been wrong. Oh well LOL

Guess they will be angry children all thier life. Poor SAPS. Those evil rampers and cleaners. How dare they! LMAO
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#19 May 21, 2013
Henry wrote:
It has been years since I've been to this forum. I see NAFW and spuds a spuds are still on here crying in thier beer over a failed walkout 7 YEARS AGO!. I would have figured they got a life by now but I guess I must have been wrong. Oh well LOL
Guess they will be angry children all thier life. Poor SAPS. Those evil rampers and cleaners. How dare they! LMAO
O-Henry. You, you, you. You make me so mad. And just for starters... our walkout might of failed, but their lockout worked just fine. They've got things just the way they want them. Low pay, low skill, and pretty paperwork. But with you living in Vegas, you already know what gambling and cheap flash is all about.

Bright lights, big city. Keep the masses entertained.
Henry

Las Vegas, NV

#20 May 21, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text> O-Henry. You, you, you. You make me so mad. And just for starters... our walkout might of failed, but their lockout worked just fine. They've got things just the way they want them. Low pay, low skill, and pretty paperwork. But with you living in Vegas, you already know what gambling and cheap flash is all about.
Bright lights, big city. Keep the masses entertained.
LOL. That's rich. First of all, how would you know I lived in Vegas? Cause of the IP? Too funny. There's a guy posting from N Korea with hatred against the USA but uses a USA proxy. Maybe I'm just visiting? BTW, not everyone who visits vegas gambles or gets prostitutes. If you knew anything about Vegas, there is ALOT more than gambling and hookers. The point being you know nothing of what you speak.

When you say "Cheap Flash" first thing that comes to mind is AMFA and the holier than thou attitude towards other former NWA employees. No one forgot what you did in 1997 or 1998 I think it was, when you people were ousting the IAM. Which I agree was a POS union. That doesn't make it right to bash anyone who works at an airline because you don't consider them "Skilled". Kind of selfish if you ask anyone who knows airlines. Pilots do the same thing to mechanics. Does it make it right? NO. Disagree, post a link where ALPA walked with AMFA. That's how much they cared about you.

Let's make it simple.
Without Mechanics, planes can't fly.
Without Pilots, planes can't fly
Without baggage handlers, passengers WILL NOT fly
Without Clean Airplanes, passengers WILL NOT fly
You Know, The Passengers = THE PEOPLE THAT PAID YOUR wages.(or do you think NWA had a money tree farm in Eagan)
Without SOC, who controls operations?
Without GSE (Whom you'r AMFA SOLD DOWN THE RIVER, Like the cleaners) How do you even function?

I was glad to see the cleaners got unemployment while you had to fight a court battle to get your's, which with your walkout (or planned walkout) caused the company to pre-empt your walkout so they could stay in business and keep jobs. Realistically you walked out! And it failed. Not even the POS IAM union would back your walkout.

BTW, Delta pays better than northwest ever did with the unions. And NO DUES! Your wages at NWA were artificial. I 2002 you had the company by the nuts. Then in 2005, the tables turned. Price of doing buiness I guess. Have you looked at mechanics pay rates at Delta? If you did, you would know they pay at or above industry standard for mechanics. Disagree?, post a link where commercial airlines are paying mechanics $60 an hour? SWA doesn't even pay those kind of wages. And have you seen the chaos at SWA, an AMFA represented airline? Looks like SWA is planning to kick them to the door too.

The company has the same rights as USA citizens. Why? Cause they ARE USA CITIZENS! Yet you think by pulling a job action causing customers to fly other airlines cause of rude union employees, solves anything. United the same way. Crappy. A union member didn't want to do thier job and caused me to miss a family funeral. Yeah, I love the Unions. NOT Unions protect LAZY WORKERS! while shitting on good workers merely for doing a good job. What was your term for them again? Management suckass?. If you come to work each day, do your job and stop screwing over your customers, fellow employees and bosses who paid you every two weeks.

I do feel sorry for the mechanics who got caught up in your mess and the only thing they could do is cross your line to keep thier jobs yet you call them names, your beloved union members (not all of them) physically attacked people whom were just going to work.
I was hoping someone would acost me over it. The hospital emergency room would have been busy that day. And not for me.

UNIONS are UN-AMERICAN! Screw socialism! It's ANTI FREEDOM!

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