created by: Vulcan Logic | Feb 14, 2013

Airlines

56 votes

Outcome of a 3 way JetBlue Hawaiian Alaska merger closure of JFK hub

Click on an option to vote

  • Agree
  • Disagree
  • JetBlue's JFK is on it's way out now anyway
  • JetBlue runs brand AS runs HA & Western Pacific^
Comments
1 - 7 of 7 Comments Last updated May 18, 2013
Vulcan Logic

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#1
Feb 14, 2013
 
Just cannot see how JetBlue can succeed against OneWorld, Star Alliance, and SkyTeam in JFK.

Brand works but hub does not.
Merged Mania

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#2
Feb 14, 2013
 
Hawaiian brand is strong in the Pacific
Alaska brand strong in the Northwest

The only way any sort of merger with JetBlue would work is if JetBlue would become a large domestic jet feed company for Hawaiian and the mainline company for the Eskimo of Alaska Air Groups Dash 8's of Horizon in the Pacific Northwest and Alaska.

Thus Hawaiian remains separate and a well suited brand for the Pacific, Alaska JetBlue merge. Horizon keeps the Eskimo and the Alaska name and feeds regionally in Alaska and the Northwest.

Hawaiian is too small to run the show, JetBlue is too underfunded and without the SkyTeam and OneWorld Alliance codeshares.

Thus the only powerful company that remains thus is........

Hmmm

Guess Hawaiian becomes the widebody operator, and someone else the narrowboody operator.
Hardcore Scenario

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#3
Feb 15, 2013
 
QX Northwest / Alaska Regional feed - Alaska brand

AS (AS + B6 - JFK hub) domestic division - JetBlue brand

AS (AS + HA becomes) international divison - Hawaiian brand
Hardcore Scenario

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#4
Feb 15, 2013
 
Minimum impact upon HA and AS as JetBlue employees would be offered the opportunity to relocate to the Northwest or Hawaii as the route map of the Domestic division, and International widebody Pacific division expands while JetBlue's JFK hub contracts.
Airline freak

Johnson City, TN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#5
Feb 16, 2013
 

Judged:

1

Delta has too much at stake in AS to let them get away. They've probably wanted AS for a while but financial discipline has required other priorities first. Wouldn't surprise me to see AS buy HA and then Delta buy the combined company in three or four years. Not a mega merger so regulators would approve it. AS has just too many crucial assets (SEA international feeder and LAX gates and routes) to let them get away. HA's international pacific routes (if they were indeed part of the picture) would be icing on the cake. Think AS would ultimately be agreeable. For all of their statements promoting remaining independent, there have been too many "never rule out" statements to believe they would resist what Delta would bring to the table.
AVOD 4 all of you

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#6
Feb 18, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

Ok let's face it. Even if these 3 major carriers were to merge, as unlikely as that is, they would still be only half the size of the smallest of the big four:

American, Delta, Southwest, and United

Basically the next question we must ask ourselves, is there room in the domestic airline industry for 5 carriers?

Or will 5, 6, and maybe 7 realize to stay relevant in the biz all there is left to do is to acquire 50 - 70 seat regional airlines and just upsize their regional jets to mainline sized jets filling the additional seats through multiple codeshare agreements.

Republic Airways Holdings has tried this with very limited success, but to be fair not all management teams are created equally! SkyWest Airlines, may bet the last best hope for some to stay relevant in this industry. Hear that Virgin America, Frontier, Hawaiian, Sun Country etc.

Maybe F9 would have been a better fit with a Utah firm than an Indiana firm!
Star SkyTeam OneWorld

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#7
May 18, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

Star SkyTeam and OneWorld, well that is one Airline Alliance JetBlue could join!

Future is so bright at JetBlue without an Alliance I got to wear shades!

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

Type in your comments below
Name
(appears on your post)
Comments
Characters left: 4000
Type the numbers you see in the image on the right:

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

35 Users are viewing the Airlines Forum right now

Search the Airlines Forum:
Title Updated Last By Comments
flight attendant trainee question Jul 25 Goforride 4
Man, 2 children asked to deplane over tweet Jul 24 arkmiwi 1
Family Booted Off Southwest Airlines After Dad ... Jul 23 ATC 1
Heard a new one DL to buy QX, AS to buy CP an o... Jul 22 Goforride 3
Whose fleet is least efficient, should fuel pri... Jul 18 Obama Sucks 5
Starting up an airline (Apr '07) Jul 15 ESSEN 30
Pilot buys pizzas for passengers grounded by storm Jul 11 Instigator 7
•••
•••