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United obese: United Airlines to make large, heavy fliers pay f...

There are 716 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Apr 15, 2009, titled United obese: United Airlines to make large, heavy fliers pay f.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Starting today, United Airlines may bump severely overweight passengers from sold-out flights.

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Minnie from Slimville

Englewood, CO

#761 Apr 24, 2009
To all those trying unsuccessfully to explain obesity and the addiction of overeating to the ignorant individuals posting here who have not a clue about it, you might as well stop wasting your time because they just don't get it and they probably never will. THEY don't have the problem and therefore the problem does not exist. They are incapable of empathizing with others and do not possess the intelligence to comprehend the problem. They are most likely the same people who don't understand any other type of addiction either unless they have it. They live in a narrow little world they created. Rest assured there are endless health care providers who do understand and there are institutes and hospitals with programs to help those fortunate enough to afford these programs. Overeaters Anonymous is also a program that has been in existence for many many years that recognizes compulsive overeating as the addiction it is. That being said, I cannot impress upon you enough to simply ignore the ignorant posting on this site and have a great day!!!
Greg

Cicero, IL

#762 Apr 24, 2009
Jan wrote:
<quoted text>Should I go first?
I realize some people are larger than others and need more than their share of room and I don't mind being squeezed a little for four hours, so it's really no big thing to me.
Satisfied? Or are you still gloating?
I'm not gloating and I wasn't being sarcastic.
Rollo Chubette

Titusville, FL

#763 Apr 24, 2009
Minnie from Slimville wrote:
To all those trying unsuccessfully to explain obesity and the addiction of overeating to the ignorant individuals posting here who have not a clue about it, you might as well stop wasting your time because they just don't get it and they probably never will. THEY don't have the problem and therefore the problem does not exist. They are incapable of empathizing with others and do not possess the intelligence to comprehend the problem. They are most likely the same people who don't understand any other type of addiction either unless they have it. They live in a narrow little world they created. Rest assured there are endless health care providers who do understand and there are institutes and hospitals with programs to help those fortunate enough to afford these programs. Overeaters Anonymous is also a program that has been in existence for many many years that recognizes compulsive overeating as the addiction it is. That being said, I cannot impress upon you enough to simply ignore the ignorant posting on this site and have a great day!!!
Move over, Minnie and gimmee some room.

Since: Jun 08

Oak Park, IL

#764 Apr 26, 2009
Mari S wrote:
I do not see how the airline can charge people for being overweight or bumping them from a flight. How will they identify these people?
Are you kidding?
I'm pretty sure you don't need an engineering degree from MIT or belong to MENSA to figure out if someone does not fit comfortably within the boundaries of their seat.

If you have flown just once you should pretty much know if you can't fit into your seat and if you are still not sure try asking the person next to you ( if they are already in a twisted or contorted position leaning away from you then the answer probably should be pretty apparent)

Since: Sep 07

Chicago

#765 Apr 26, 2009
Minnie from Slimville wrote:
To all those trying unsuccessfully to explain obesity and the addiction of overeating to the ignorant individuals posting here who have not a clue about it, you might as well stop wasting your time because they just don't get it and they probably never will. THEY don't have the problem and therefore the problem does not exist. They are incapable of empathizing with others and do not possess the intelligence to comprehend the problem. They are most likely the same people who don't understand any other type of addiction either unless they have it. They live in a narrow little world they created. Rest assured there are endless health care providers who do understand and there are institutes and hospitals with programs to help those fortunate enough to afford these programs. Overeaters Anonymous is also a program that has been in existence for many many years that recognizes compulsive overeating as the addiction it is. That being said, I cannot impress upon you enough to simply ignore the ignorant posting on this site and have a great day!!!
Great logic. Some of us criticize fat people, but it doesn't count because, since we're not fat, fatness doesn't exist to us? Oh, so since I don't have cancer, my mother's cancer doesn't exist to me? Because I don't have depression, my brother's depression doesn't exist to me? Quit the pity party. Someone else being fat exists very clearly for me when they sit next to me on the plane which, according to the odds, is bound to happen to me during at least one legs of one of my flights to and from Dallas, Chicago, Pittsburgh and San Diego in the next two weeks. I have no doubt that, during at least a leg or two I will have my elbow engulfed by someone's gut, and of course that will be my fault because I should lean out of the way to compensate for their bulk. But that's o.k., because it really won't be happening because their bulk doesn't exist because I'm not fat myself, right?
JSIII

United States

#767 Apr 26, 2009
As I suspected, this is yet another unenforced policy. I am a big guy, i fit right in my seat and it was the SKINNY jagoff next to me this time elbowing me in my arm and side (both on 'My' side of the armrest). They need to crack down and RUDE passengers rather than single out one group or another.
Greg B

Chicago, IL

#768 Apr 27, 2009
Jan wrote:
<quoted text>In today's economy, it shoudn't be too difficult to find flights with a few seats available. Even in better times, I've flown occasionally on flights that are not sold out.
What kind of United flights are you taking? The ones that leave at 11 pm at night? I travel frequently for business, and with the reduction in the flight schedule, it is more and more common that every single seat is filled on flights to business destinations like New York. Often times, the standby list is huge and cannot be accomodated. At some point, I would suppose that there is a domino effect and people getting onto flights from standby free up room on successive flights, but like I said, those flights are not at peak business hours.
seethelight

Kansas City, KS

#769 May 1, 2009
Ndugu wrote:
<quoted text>
Newsflash: If you can hide your weight with a book or a purse, you're not someone who is going to be affected by this rule. Newsflash #2: The extra seat does not entitle you to extra carry-ons. Newsflash #3: Bringing your own extender is not fooling anyone.
It is this kind of denial that likely has led to your obesity. Time for someone to pay a little more attention to reality and a little less time to making excuses.
I'm not making excuses at all! Just stating facts, and yes, if I bought that extra seat, which I have, I DO get an extra carry on! And I don't give a damn about your personal hatred of obese people. I just refuse to sit by people like you on flights!
seethelight

Kansas City, KS

#770 May 1, 2009
JSIII wrote:
As I suspected, this is yet another unenforced policy. I am a big guy, i fit right in my seat and it was the SKINNY jagoff next to me this time elbowing me in my arm and side (both on 'My' side of the armrest). They need to crack down and RUDE passengers rather than single out one group or another.
Thank you! Precisely my feelings! I know I'm fat. I have been all my life. I don't make excuses for my weight, I make my own way in this world. I buy 2 seats so i don't have to inconvenience anyone. It's a shame the drinkers on my flight and the whiners aren't as considerate!

Since: Sep 07

Chicago

#771 May 2, 2009
seethelight wrote:
<quoted text> I'm not making excuses at all! Just stating facts, and yes, if I bought that extra seat, which I have, I DO get an extra carry on! And I don't give a damn about your personal hatred of obese people. I just refuse to sit by people like you on flights!
Sorry, Toots, 1 carry-on per PERSON, not per SEAT. Just asked my pilot friend who works for United.

To clarify, I don't hate fat people. I have fat friends. I just don't respect their lack of discipline and willpower, and I don't respect people in general who think that their situation hat is within their control should infringe on someone else. I am 6'4", do I tell the person in front of me he or she cannot recline their seat? No, because that is their seat and they can do with it as they please. And my height isn't even within my control.

Get over yourself.
seethelight

Kansas City, KS

#773 May 3, 2009
Ndugu wrote:
<quoted text> Get over myself? For standing up to rude asses like you? You expect people like us to just fade into the background, hide ourselves, never contribute, and obviously, never be allowed to travel. Maybe you are the one who needs to get over YOURSELF! Maybe we all do! I never fly United, anyway. I have my own choice of who I prefer to fly with, and my name isn't "toots"!
Sorry, Toots, 1 carry-on per PERSON, not per SEAT. Just asked my pilot friend who works for United.
To clarify, I don't hate fat people. I have fat friends. I just don't respect their lack of discipline and willpower, and I don't respect people in general who think that their situation hat is within their control should infringe on someone else. I am 6'4", do I tell the person in front of me he or she cannot recline their seat? No, because that is their seat and they can do with it as they please. And my height isn't even within my control.
Get over yourself.
Get over myself? For standing up to rude asses like you? You expect people like us to just fade into the background, hide ourselves, never contribute, and obviously, never be allowed to travel. Maybe you are the one who needs to get over YOURSELF! Maybe we all do! I never fly United, anyway. I have my own choice of who I prefer to fly with, and my name isn't "toots"!
seethelight

Kansas City, KS

#775 May 3, 2009
Oh, I have friends that are skinny. The majority of them are wonderful people, but then there are a few like you, who assume that because you aren't heavy, that you are perfect in all ways human, and just love to point that out every chance you get to those of us who have failed in the normal weight dept. Ya know, when you go to calling people by cutesy little names like "toots" you are showing how arrogant you are! The world isn't just made up of people like you, my friend, who are so perfect in body. AS I said earlier, I gladly buy 2 seats so I don't have to impose on others. Hopefully, someday I will be a thinner, more perfect human, like you, but if I do ever achieve perfection, I hope I won't be the one who stares, points, laughs, and makes comments about those people who don't meet the food police requirements to live life to the fullest!

Since: Sep 07

Chicago

#776 May 3, 2009
seethelight wrote:
Oh, I have friends that are skinny. The majority of them are wonderful people, but then there are a few like you, who assume that because you aren't heavy, that you are perfect in all ways human, and just love to point that out every chance you get to those of us who have failed in the normal weight dept. Ya know, when you go to calling people by cutesy little names like "toots" you are showing how arrogant you are! The world isn't just made up of people like you, my friend, who are so perfect in body. AS I said earlier, I gladly buy 2 seats so I don't have to impose on others. Hopefully, someday I will be a thinner, more perfect human, like you, but if I do ever achieve perfection, I hope I won't be the one who stares, points, laughs, and makes comments about those people who don't meet the food police requirements to live life to the fullest!
Easy there, Sweetcheeks. Please tell me what I said that was rude. My position boils down to the following:

1. Most often obesity is a reflection of laziness/lack of discipline, potentially with some underlying complications, such as low self-esteem, which leads to eating more for comfort, which causes weight gain, which lowers self-esteem, and on and on.

2. I don't respect laziness/lack of discipline.

3. I don't believe others should be made to suffer due to someone's own situation which is largely, if not entirely, within that person's control.

That's it. The rest is window dressing. I have never pointed and laughed at or otherwise intentionally done anything to embarrass a fat person. THe one time I confronted a fat person was when he had the nerve to lift his armrest as he sat next to my girlfriend's sister, said "Good thing you're small" and proceeded to squish her. I first quietly gave him the opportunity to find other accommodations on the plane, he declined, so I quietly approached the stewardess and asked her to intervene.

Am I perfect? Heck no. Do I ask others to bear the burden for my imperfections? Heck no. There are fat people on this board whose basic attitude is "I'm fat and that's that so deal with it, and if I flow over into your seat, that's just the way the eggs break. That is not acceptable. And that attitude is not found just in this situation, but increasingly throughout society. These days the phrase that pays is "Well I want...." People take what they want regardless of the effect their actions have on other people.

If you want to call me rude for not suffering someone else's selfishness, then have at it.
mudman

Pittsburgh, PA

#778 May 13, 2009
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holly

Hollywood, FL

#779 May 15, 2009
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redn

Longboat Key, FL

#780 Aug 11, 2013
all obese must hang then the obese problem solved

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