(MQ) Envoy, could a mainline ever buy and merge in SCOPE Accordance?

Created by Merger Mania on Jan 15, 2014

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SCOPE

Kent, WA

#1 Jan 15, 2014
Could Hawaiian buy (MQ) and rebrand as Envoy, and instead of feed AA as an Eagle, could they simply codeshare as (HA) on all current routes!
MQ Simmons Envoy

United States

#2 Feb 14, 2014
Seems logical... to correct the imbalance of the SCOPE of regional feeders like Republic Airlines, Shuttle America, Compass, SkyWest, etc... Which are now flying mainline sized planes much like the stretched Ejets of US Airways and JetBlue
Merger Mania

United States

#3 Feb 27, 2014
SCOPE wrote:
Could Hawaiian buy (MQ) and rebrand as Envoy, and instead of feed AA as an Eagle, could they simply codeshare as (HA) on all current routes!
JetBlue, Hawaiian, Alaska large mainline carriers, already codeshare with AA, DL, or UA with large jets.

This might become one growth strategy for HA. Buy Envoy, rebrand as Envoy and upsize their equipment with 717s, bringing and consolidating fleets to large C Series aircraft once available; all the while codesharing with AA, on all current MQ routes flown now, but with slightly less frequency.
It is official

United States

#4 Mar 25, 2014
It is official:

(MQ) American Eagle Airlines is becoming
(MQ) Envoy (Airlines)

other Airlines will still continue to do business under AMR's former branding of American Eagle.
It is official

United States

#5 Mar 25, 2014
Side note - if a major mainline was but to buy MQ, it would really be a significant merger as - Envoy is considered and is a major airline.

a M A J O R airline merging with a M A J O R airline. That is a big airline! Is it time to compile a short list!

Alaska
Frontier
Hawaiian
JetBlue

hmmm
It is offical

United States

#6 Mar 25, 2014
AS - not likely but they do have the frequent flier business travelers which is key to making 70 -90 seat airliners profitable, and they do currently work with AA

B6 - East Coast has many high yield customers but also much competion, but an upgauge to E 175 Ejets might be a plan

F9 - been through the Republic Airways Holdings ill-guided attempts probably not likely but the new owners may see value in such

HA - HNL is too regionally West of ORD, and DFW

Charters World Airways is in Bankruptcy, Atlas Airlines has no reason to get into scheduled service business, and SkyWest (INC) has way more to digest with ExpressJet and ASA to be preoccupied by this notion.
Janice Lokelani Keihanaik

Irving, TX

#7 Apr 23, 2014
Envoy is a ground handling service for other airlines and flies some regional jets owned by American Airlines. There's nothing to sell.
http://www.npr.org/2013/09/17/223312693/hawai...
MQ Simmons Envoy

United States

#8 Apr 23, 2014
Good point, but i am sure American Airlines Group would like to find a way of dumping a bunch of Jungle Jets on somebody else.

If that means the certificate going to someone else in a jet deal financial transaction inclusive of Envoys business... So be it. I bet AmAirGroup would have no problem with that.
Merger Mania

United States

#9 Apr 27, 2014
Jet Blue is the only one that might come to mind, that could make an Envoy acquisition and upsize the aircraft merger a success due to the lucrative East Coast short range flying.

Pretty soon AA DL UA and their outsourced regionals will be whining they can't make money with 70 seat jets, and they need more capacity.

This year the airline whine is
50 seat jets don't make money.

Next year the airline whine will be 70 seat jets operating margins are too tight and we can't make money.

4 years from now the standard airline whine will be 99 jets are not making us money at the regionals, we need 130 seat regional jets...

Wah, wah, wah, whine, whine whine.

130 / 160 seat regional jet C Series aircraft. Pilots wake up!
Guys Bail Out

United States

#11 May 2, 2014
Guys and Ladies, bail out now, the new AMR is shutting you all down.

No point in wasting any more time here.
u are a koolaid drinker

Miami, FL

#12 May 8, 2014
theres no one ever in, or any airline, that wants to invest in ENVOY. I repeat, there is no one ever in, or any airline, that wants to invest in ENVOY!!!!!!!!!! my recommendation would be to GET THE HELL OUT now. There are a lot of indicators that show ENVOY is sinking, intentionally so it wont have to "Comair" the whole thing!

GET OUT NOW!
Mike Dorn Miami ERJ

Boston, MA

#13 May 12, 2014
Im gay! we are all going to AA.

Ps.

Houston you're cute!

MD

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