Pilot Orders Coughing Student Off Flight

Full story: WVIT-TV W Hartford

An airline pilot on Tuesday ordered a 16-year-old student from Hawaii off an East Coast flight after a coughing fit.
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r m sanderson

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This is a case that should have penalties . Continental should be happy that it was not a child of a angry family . It would be very hard to turn the other cheek . The pilot does not know his own companies published rights of their customers .
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Spoken like a true slip and fall lawyer.
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I would say Continetal is the most inhuman airlines I have ever seen. I had asked for water in the flight and got it after at least one hour of waiting. Their staff is very rude. They never reposnd to the hostess buttons. It keeps on flashing for hours.
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I think the pilot was correct in removing an ill passenger from the flight. Newark to Honolulu is a very long trip and diverting is a nightmare.
Leslie

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You've never had a coughing fit when you weren't sick? Dry throat needed a glass of water? Inhaled the wrong way?

This is stupid. There was a doctor on the flight who examined the girl and said she was okay she didn't have a fever so she wasn't a risk to the other passengers.

I have children I won't ever fly with this airline.
Love my work

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Leslie wrote:
You've never had a coughing fit when you weren't sick? Dry throat needed a glass of water? Inhaled the wrong way?
This is stupid. There was a doctor on the flight who examined the girl and said she was okay she didn't have a fever so she wasn't a risk to the other passengers.
I have children I won't ever fly with this airline.
Unless they have the lowest fare, then I bet you will.
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They didn't order the kid to get off in Mid-Air , so whats the problem. Now if they would have thrown him off the plane somewhere between Newark and Honolulu , well then maybe it could have been an error on the Pilot's judgement , maybe .
had enough

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I certainly don't want to sit next to someone who is sick as I head for my vacation. The parents should be held responsible for SENDING the sick child on the plane!! When a child is sick at school they send them home No difference here.
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Right on !! Stupid, whining (and coughing) kids shouldn't be on the plane anyway. Whine, whine, cough, cough, whine...get a life.
Leslie

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IDIOTS!

Today a coughing child. Tomorrow someone with a running nose. Whats next a complete physical at the airport?

Did you morons read the part where it said "a doctor on the plane examined the girl and said she didn't have a fever therefore SHE WASN'T A RISK TO THE OTHER PASSENGERS!"

HERE IS A BRIGHT IDEA! IF YOU DELICATE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GET SICK GO LIVE IN A BUBBLE!!!

Whining coughing children? Is crying contagious now?

Maybe they shouldn't allow stupid adults on planes. Stupidity can rub off on others you know. You idiots would all be stuck on the same bus!
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Leslie wrote:
IDIOTS!
Today a coughing child. Tomorrow someone with a running nose. Whats next a complete physical at the airport?
Did you morons read the part where it said "a doctor on the plane examined the girl and said she didn't have a fever therefore SHE WASN'T A RISK TO THE OTHER PASSENGERS!"
HERE IS A BRIGHT IDEA! IF YOU DELICATE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GET SICK GO LIVE IN A BUBBLE!!!
Whining coughing children? Is crying contagious now?
Maybe they shouldn't allow stupid adults on planes. Stupidity can rub off on others you know. You idiots would all be stuck on the same bus!
Well now, how would you like to have a seat next to, or in proximity to, the ambulance chaser from Atlanta who likely spread TB (the bad kind) to at least two continents and countless passengers? The pilot did the right thing. But then, he is a lot smarter than you. I like CAL.
Leslie

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May 31, 2007
 
Brown Sugar wrote:
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Well now, how would you like to have a seat next to, or in proximity to, the ambulance chaser from Atlanta who likely spread TB (the bad kind) to at least two continents and countless passengers? The pilot did the right thing. But then, he is a lot smarter than you. I like CAL.
Like I said IDIOTS.
Read the whole story before you comment. SHE WASN'T SICK. YOU CAN COUGH AND NOT BE SICK. A DOCTOR EXAMINED HER.
The moron with TB had a doctor tell him not to fly and he did anyway. Go figure nobody kicked him off his flight.
So the pilot is smart because he kicked a child off a flight that wasn't sick. What about the pilot(s) that didn't kick off the man with TB. I guess he wasn't coughing. WOW! YOU CAN BE SICK AND NOT COUGH? THATS AMAZING.
I like your "TB(the bad kind)" NEVER KNEW THERE WAS A GOOD KIND.
Maybe they'd have let the girl fly if she had TB instead of a cough.
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If I have the chili in Newark; I pass alot of gas while working in the isle. No one kicked me off.
had enough

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Leslie wrote:
IDIOTS!
Today a coughing child. Tomorrow someone with a running nose. Whats next a complete physical at the airport?
Did you morons read the part where it said "a doctor on the plane examined the girl and said she didn't have a fever therefore SHE WASN'T A RISK TO THE OTHER PASSENGERS!"
HERE IS A BRIGHT IDEA! IF YOU DELICATE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GET SICK GO LIVE IN A BUBBLE!!!
Whining coughing children? Is crying contagious now?
Maybe they shouldn't allow stupid adults on planes. Stupidity can rub off on others you know. You idiots would all be stuck on the same bus!
If the chils was coughing so much that it was brought to the attention of the flight crew then obviously there was a problem.A doctor cannot make a rel diagnosis without tests. Lots of people are sick and do not have a fever.The parents maybe should have kept the child home until they were well-but that would require some parental responsibility.
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had enough wrote:
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If the chils was coughing so much that it was brought to the attention of the flight crew then obviously there was a problem.A doctor cannot make a rel diagnosis without tests. Lots of people are sick and do not have a fever.The parents maybe should have kept the child home until they were well-but that would require some parental responsibility.
I don't agree with sick people traveling. All I'm saying is this is a very delicate subject. If pilots are allowed to make medical decisions they should be trained in the medical field and they should have to personally examine the passenger in order to say who is well enough to fly.

Her parents didn't send her off sick. She was on a school field trip the flight was taking her back home to Hawaii. The adults traveling with her didn't feel she was too sick to go on the field trip/travel. No where does it say "the child who had been coughing all week". All it said is she fell asleep and woke up having a coughing fit surrounded by people. She could have inhaled wrong. There are lots of reasons she could have been coughing (including sickness). But it doesn't say she was sick. The article reads as if she was healthy and for some reason woke up coughing.

Everybody has the right to travel and the right to travel safely (without the fear of contracting something). Its just not right that someone who has no medical knowledge is allowed to make medical decisions.

Put the shoe on the other foot. How would you feel if you saved up to go on a great vacation. Took time off work, have great reservations at a expensive hotel, the works! After you board the plane to leave town you sit down and for some reason cough (dry throat/inhaled wrong/the grandma behind you has strong perfume and you choked on the smell a bit). You haven't been sick and you don't feel sick. Lets just say there is a paranoid person sitting a few rows back this person tells the flight attendant "that cough doesn't sound good he/she sounds really sick. I really don't feel comfortable with him/her being on the plane. Remember the guy with TB?" F.A. "Okay I'll tell the pilot".
Long story short you get kicked off the plane even though a trained medical doctor who was on your flight told the pilot you were okay to travel.
How would you feel then?
Would you really feel good?
The pilot was doing his best he had to make a decision in the best interest of all the people on board.
Or would you question the pilots medical training versus that of the doctor who examined you?

Little by little our rights keep getting taken away.
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Jun 9, 2007
 
Can someone paste the article into a thread please? I am FA in the UK and would be interested in knowing more about this one for my own reference.
Thanks a mil guys,
Helen.
Leslie

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http://www.nbc30.com/travelgetaways/11420591/...

Not sure if this is what you mean but when I click on full story this is where I get sent.
Hope this helps.
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If ever there was an example of how out of touch the general public is with the day-to-day operations of an airline and the duties of a flight crew - a quick review of this thread would be it.
First, the reason this girl was removed from the flight has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that she could be contagious or annoying to other passengers. Did you notice that the police, ambulance and paramedics were called? Do you think that just maybe that might mean there was real concern for her well-being during her coughing episode? So there you are the Captain of this flight and you say “hey that doctor said she was okay so lets launch out over the ocean for a really long flight and just hope he is right.” And what would be your next great decision when the young girl had another coughing episode halfway to Hawaii? Where exactly are you pulling over to get her emergency help? Are you paying for all the fuel to divert? Are you paying for the couple of hundred other passengers who have now been inconvenienced and need to be rebooked and lost time out of their vacations? What if she had died en route? As Captain of this flight you are now responsible for taking off on a 10 hour flight with a passenger that required emergency medical assistance at the gate. You think that shows good judgment Leslie?
You do understand don’t you that the Captain is responsible for the safety of the flight and well-being of his passengers. He has the final say who goes and who doesn’t. The Captain of this flight was not making any medical decisions he was making a responsible decision for the well-being of a young girl who could not receive immediate emergency attention at 30,000 feet en route to Hawaii, on behalf of all of the other passengers aboard, and his company.
Would you have let an unruly passenger on board as well? If someone had been acting out just prior to push back and a psychiatrist said they were now calmed down and okay to go you would want the Captain to make the decision to leave this person on board? What’s your plan Captain Leslie when this guy starts having a melt down while you’re winging along out over the ocean? Point your finger at the doctor and say he said it was okay. Just who do you think everyone is going to hold responsible for letting this guy on board. There could have been 100 doctors standing around saying this girl was okay but it is up to the Captain to weigh the facts and do what is best under the circumstances.
I guess the bottom line to all of your posts is that the pilot should not have been involved in any decisions regarding his flight. The doctor said it was okay so the Captain has no business getting involved and taking into consideration the fact that if the young girl went she would no longer be able to receive immediate emergency assistance, the risk and expense of having to divert out over the ocean, inconveniencing hundreds of passengers, and putting your company at risk for possible litigation if the worst (or in this day and age anything close to it) happens.
Take that $50.00 you want to spend on a ticket and go buy a clue.
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Leslie wrote:
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Like I said IDIOTS.
Read the whole story before you comment. SHE WASN'T SICK. YOU CAN COUGH AND NOT BE SICK. A DOCTOR EXAMINED HER.
The moron with TB had a doctor tell him not to fly and he did anyway. Go figure nobody kicked him off his flight.
So the pilot is smart because he kicked a child off a flight that wasn't sick. What about the pilot(s) that didn't kick off the man with TB. I guess he wasn't coughing. WOW! YOU CAN BE SICK AND NOT COUGH? THATS AMAZING.
I like your "TB(the bad kind)" NEVER KNEW THERE WAS A GOOD KIND.
Maybe they'd have let the girl fly if she had TB instead of a cough.
How do you know she was not sick? The ambulance chaser was smart enough to conceal his TB (the bad kind); and the pilots on whose flights he used very likely did not know what that lying turkey was infected with. If there was an error, the pilot did so in favor of safety. Now about TB (the bad kind): I try to keep it real simple for people like you, Leslie. Hey, the pilot did the right thing!
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Safety first. The pilot did the right thing some people cant afford to get sick.one infection can turn into something worse in other people.

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