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There are 73 comments on the Monterey County Herald story from Sep 23, 2010, titled Bay View parents' charter school plan gets preliminary OK from Mont.... In it, Monterey County Herald reports that:

Hilltop Park Center in Monterey could be the site of a charter school that would include at least some of the students from soon-to-be-closed Bay View Elementary.

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Tony

Salinas, CA

#62 Sep 27, 2010
Ali wrote:
Here is the link to the powerpoint presentation given by Marilyn Shepherd at the 2009 California School Board Association annual trade show.The topic was how to manipulate the electorate into passing a bond with the aid of attorneys, media specialists, pollsters, and public relations firms.
It is quite remarkable. She presented herself as the conquering hero after successfully manipulating the farming community of Golden Valley School District into passing an unnecessary bond. At no time did she reveal that she quit on them with no notice in the middle of the school year when offered a position at MPUSD-- a position which was offered to her in large part because of her bond effort.
I offer this to the public because the Peninsula is about to be bombarded with waves of propaganda from all quarters--the District, teachers, PTA groups, civic leaders, beloved former mayors, church leaders, etc. This is called:
"Preparing the Message Frame" in the language of the professional manipulators. Get ready for the Message Frame and just be aware that every single utterance you hear is carefully planned.
www.scribd.com/doc/34605651/2009-CSBA-Bond-Pr...
Do not trust this woman.
Thank you so much for this information. Tax payers in Monterey need to know they have no "clout" regarding their kids. Monterey does not have enough kids to sway the argument. They can have their charter school or send their kids to private school, it really doesn't matter. What matters to MPUSD is they get the tax dollars from their property!
Colton Parent

Monterey, CA

#63 Sep 27, 2010
Interesting article from the Chronicle.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi...
jim

Marina, CA

#65 Sep 27, 2010
Read the article Colton Parent. Interesting to me that there is no push for charters in Carmel or Palo Alto or Los Gatos.

Seems to me that kids in large unified school districts in heterogenous communities will be attending school in old Circuit City stores, car dealerships, and unused municipal buildings while their former high schools are sold off for development. Meanwhile, higher end communities will retain their community schools.

I think the times call for a circling of the wagons in all communities to protect and support your public schools. Charter schools start the bleeding-- and it won't stop.
Colton Parent

Monterey, CA

#66 Sep 27, 2010
Hi Jim:

I appreciate your view point.

Perhaps the challenge is really the creation of large unified school districts that can not meet the demands of the various niches they should serve.

As I understant it, it would be almost impossible for Monterey to form its own school district as Pacific Grove and Carmel have. The charter schools provide an more viable option although not a perfect solution.

The other thing that the article brings out is that it is not the athletic fields, olympic swimming pools, new football fields, teachers unions and other expenses that are fundamental to educational success. These charters, in many cases, spend very little, but create a better product. The International School charter we have in this district appears to be an example.

If an old circuit city building houses a better alternative to a new school building then maybe it makes us think about what really matters as resources get tight.
Tired mom

San Jose, CA

#67 Sep 27, 2010
You are 100% right! Great, thoughtful comments!
Money should be spent in the classroom starting with smaller class sizes and individualized teaching. If children can be taught academics in one room huts and sit on mud floors, then why are we mulling a bond to provide facilities improvements?
Tired mom

San Jose, CA

#68 Sep 27, 2010
Jim,
I do not know the last time you volunteered in the classroom or attended an MPUSD board meeting but we are in serious trouble both in this district and in Ca in general. If school districts continue to fail to provide a quality well rounded education for their students then parents must have options. You would not continue to prop up a business that failed year after year in the hopes that somehow they might eventually turn it around. The district is on the business of education and they are failing year after year and I will no longer support them. Charter schools are held to a higher standard than the public schools . If they fail they get the charter revoked. It is time we shut down under performing schools and stop making excuses as to why they are failing! No child can afford another day of waste in the current school system.
who="jim"]Read the article Colton Parent. Interesting to me that there is no push for charters in Carmel or Palo Alto or Los Gatos.
Seems to me that kids in large unified school districts in heterogenous communities will be attending school in old Circuit City stores, car dealerships, and unused municipal buildings while their former high schools are sold off for development. Meanwhile, higher end communities will retain their community schools.
I think the times call for a circling of the wagons in all communities to protect and support your public schools. Charter schools start the bleeding-- and it won't stop.
jim

Salinas, CA

#69 Sep 27, 2010
Dear Tired Mom=
I apologize if my tone seemed to not recognize the seriousness of the problem you are facing. I hear it clearly in yourpost and many others and I am sorry if I seemed to diminish it. It sounds like things are pretty bad over the hill and that was not something I had been aware of. Maybe you folks in monterey should get some legal advice on whether you could break out of the unified district? I don't know what the answer is, I guess is what I'm saying. How did we get her?
Tired mom

United States

#70 Sep 27, 2010
jim wrote:
Dear Tired Mom=
I apologize if my tone seemed to not recognize the seriousness of the problem you are facing. I hear it clearly in yourpost and many others and I am sorry if I seemed to diminish it. It sounds like things are pretty bad over the hill and that was not something I had been aware of. Maybe you folks in monterey should get some legal advice on whether you could break out of the unified district? I don't know what the answer is, I guess is what I'm saying. How did we get her?
Thanks.
It was kind of you to make those comments. It seems to me you would be a better fit as a Superintendent for our district. You have empathy and an understanding of our dire situation which is more than the current admin. seems to.
As my "handle" states, I'm just tired of it all and I am sorry if I came across as so bitter.....even though I am LOL!
If you meant how did we get here? Years of politicing and bad decisions coupled with an extraordinary high percentage of families who educate their kids privately.... believe it or not it is about 34% of mpusd. I can't blame them but they took the "parent power" with them!
If you meant how did we get HER then it is my understanding she was the only one who applied for the position. She has a terrible public image and has done zero outreach. She closes down 1 high performing school on the pretext it was loosing money. Not so according to an independant authority on the subject. Then axes the k-8 at Colton even though the school has gone from strength to strength. The list goes on and on and on. She also comes across as arrogant and makes misstatements on a daily basis. The board is clueless and so dam OLD and gives Dr. S. carte blanche to push her agenda through. Her agenda seems to be to drive out the middle class, as the upper income folks are long gone. All we will have left is the working poor and very, very poor who will ultimately be all that is left. I can't wait to catch the new movie, waiting for superman, which should be a must see for anyone with kids currently enrolled in school.
Thanks again for your kind words.
Kevin

Monterey, CA

#71 Sep 28, 2010
Be careful with ISM's business plan, they are a few dollars in the hole with the County Office of Ed, that came to light a few years back when they came out from Monterey's financial "umbrella".

From what I heard they also had a bad habit of illegally turning away special ed kids, too expensive for them. The old admin there, Ms. Johns, paid herself quite a bit more than she should have, I think, about $15-$20K more than a compatible sized private or public school's admin. Same with that other charter school, Cypress Grove, that guy liked to pay his wife as a consultant, although no one could prove what she consulted on.

Be careful you screaming for charters don't jump out of the pan and into the fire....
Ali

Salinas, CA

#72 Sep 28, 2010
377,000,000 million dollars.

Over one-third of a trillion dollars.

That is what is being depicted on the websites of all MPUSD schools today.

On a school site, click on facilities and you will be able to see the site plan and the plans for the entire learning community. They are spectacular! Artist renditioning, 3-D, rotating, spinning in and out Wow!

But they are a lie and a spin fabricated by Marilyn Shepherd's consulting firms as I warned in a previous post.

The new Monterey High campus for example, which would start by tearing down the venerable old Randall Gym, would cost 38.4 million. Seaside High would get a 38.7 million dollar facelift. Ord Terrace 16.5 million. The list goes on and on.

And the grand total is: 377.4 million dollars.

But the bond is only for 110 million.

Bait and switch. A scam. Fraudulent. Intentionally designed to deceive the voting public and to pull on the hearts of parents by showing their children images of an impossible goal.

What are you getting for 110 million-- if the 377 million Makeover is not possible?

Well, you are getting, door knobs, more handicapped accessible ramps and sinks and doorjams, repaved parking lots, patched holes in the walls, new electrical outlets----in other words all of the deferred maintenance that we could have been doing instead of hiring more administrators and paying them more than dentists.

And because the MPUSD does not have enough custodians or maintenance workers, all of this 110 million dollar maintenance catch-up will be falling apart again in 5 years but we will be paying for it for 30 years.

Call your local school and ask them for details to help inform your vote. Call the district office and ask them if the bond is going to pay for a 50 meter pool at Monterey High, a Performing Arts Center, and a new Cafeteria/Food Court. The web site for Monterey High claims that it will.

Call the Election Board and ask them if it is a violation of election law for the requesting agency for a bond issue to depict 377 million dollars worth of improvements for a 110 million dollar bond. That is a legitimate question.
Realist

United States

#73 Sep 28, 2010
Thanks for sharing this.

I thought this was basically a smaller bill covering deferred maintenance and perhaps some extra teaching resource for basic music programs. Boy was I wrong!

This does not resolve the problems we have discussed.

The schools at circuit city buildings would still do a better job than this new facility with an olympic sized pool, etc. just as discussed above.

We would just have children performing just as poorly in new facilities and perhaps more money for the unions.
Old Dore PG

Salinas, CA

#74 Sep 28, 2010
I hope it's not true that they plan on tearing down Randy Randall Gym like that Plan says.

It's one of the few buildings in the District that has any character, not to mention that is has been dedicated to Coach Randy Randall.

This shepherd lady doesn;t understand a thing if she is hirung people to put together a plan that involves tearing down that gym. She does not understand this community and never will and that;s why all the bad decisions we;re seeing

Go back to wherever you came from lady
Sally F

San Jose, CA

#75 Jan 3, 2011
Judging by the paper today the district is back to it's old tricks!
They were never going to grant them a charter and have DR. Evil revise her master plan.
I do hope all these rumors of a high level investigation into mpusd turn out to be true!

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