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Attorney In Fact

Tacoma, WA

#67 Jul 22, 2012
missyone wrote:
Just trying to find out if a mother living on tx section 8 housing can have her son come live with her that is a convicted felon. I dont know what the rules are and cant find any info online. He is about to be released and we need to have a place ready for him to live. thanks
if you can avoid it do not tell his PO that you are on section 8 because his po will say no and section 8 wont find out if you dont tell them. just tell his po you have a job working from home or whatever, he wont check on you. just make sure that your son gets his mail somewhere else, section 8 will check that. I am fighting this battle with my fiance's po ( he is still in prison) and section 8 who i intend to throw case law at because there is double talk in their regulations.
Attorney In Fact

Tacoma, WA

#68 Jul 22, 2012
4Xfelon wrote:
Actually, felons are allowed to get food stamps. I have three felony convictions for manufacture/delivery and I am receiving food stamps. The guidelines are a little more strict ,but, I am getting assistanc. Now, housing, that is something I would like to know about<quoted text>
I am on section 8. I am a convicted felon but they dont know about it because I had my name legally changed after I got off of probation, and then I also moved to the other side of the country. I had a lot less problems after I had my name legally changed in court in my new state of residence and then I got my birth certificate amended to show my new name. I havent been in trouble now since 1997.
Attorney In Fact

Tacoma, WA

#69 Jul 22, 2012
4Xfelon wrote:
just had to add to my previous statement. I was on an interstate compact when i got released. The state I went o I was gainfully employed(same job year and a half), had a three bedroom apartment with my girl. And brcause I wasnt paying supervision fees in the state where I was at they pushed paper on me to return me to where I am now. I was givin two weeks notice to report back here or a warrant would be issued. So, I had to pack my stuff put it in storage and my girl had to find somewhere else to go. So, I leave with a bag of clothes and drive a thousand miles back to hell. Here I'm not required to pay supervision fees. But, iI get here to nothing.. I have no job, no home and no means to support myself. Like I said I get foodstamps, but thats it. I just went to a homeless shelter today and was turned away because my charges hit on for out of six of the things that they look for. Bogus.. I went from having a job, and a home, being "a productive member of society" to being a bum on the streets with nothin but hopes and reams. Now, I thought the goal of parole was to help you adjust back into the community and give you resources to HELP YOURSELF(no handouts) so you dont reoffend. Sweeping someones feet out from underneath them is a little counter-productive, I believe. Anyways, lifes a beach... Guess we gotta play in the sand <quoted text>
this is what my fiances PO is trying to do to him and he is not even out of prison yet. I am on section 8 and his PO is trying to say that he cant live with me because I am on Section 8. BULLSHIT.
I have a copy of the HUD Guidelines Manual right here with me, the very same one that they use in their office. It is a double standard: now get this: Om one hand its says the someone who has been arrested or convicted or either violent crimes or making drugs can not be approved and that is all. And then on the other hand it says: If you are on probation or parole and you get violated you will automatically get kicked out of the program. NOW HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU GET KICKED OUT OF A PROGRAM THAT YOU WERENT SUPPOSED TO BE APPROVED FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE? WRONG! This is DISCRIMINATION plain and simple. I could see not letting someone in the program if you are some stupid violent offender besting the hell out of everyone or you were some dingdong dopehead who had their head up their ass etc but this nonsense of telling me that they wont approve someone coming out of prison who has managed to straighten up their live is beyond ridiculous. He was convicted of not paying child support and that is all. It is totally unjust unfair and immoral. Someone wants to make a fresh start and they just want to kick them to the curb. Section 8 is going to have a big fight on their hands with me. I already won 1 federal case. guess its time to put bureracy on it ear.

By god there is no way in hell that some damn po is going to tell me I cant marry my fiance or send him back east to go live on the street. bullshit.
imonmyown1

San Leandro, CA

#71 Jul 30, 2012
tim wrote:
<quoted text>After a felon slaps society in the face, why then does society have to take care of them. Crime should have negative consequences and foods stamps and other forms of gifts from society does not equal negative consequences. A person makes their choices and then they have to live with the consequences. If they had a temporary bout of insanity it still does not erase the crime. If they get religion after well good for them but it still does not erase the crime.Society can not function if people are not held accountable for their behavior.
Tim, simple minds such as yours fail this country everyday! Grow up it could be you in prison. Your expressing tells of a violent mental. People should be held accountable PRISON does that fine. How can it be a paid debt? When a person pays for it even after release.?. "ex-felon" ex is past tense am I right? "Our" Country needs to grow up stop writing HisStory. MAKE HISTORY!!!
REVOLT - against the SYS

Pompano Beach, FL

#73 Aug 8, 2012
This is a travesty of Human and Civil Rights.

Once you serve your time...you should be released with a clean slate. If not...then keep them in jail.

The system is not setup to give felons a second chance....too many jobs at stake.

The CIC (criminal industrial complex) that being the legal system that creates millions of jobs at the expense of those convicted of a crime makes BILLIONS of dollars every year off the backs of taxpayers and convicts.

Its is composed of the following entities.
-Jails (and those who work there).
-legal administration (clerks who work at the courthouse, jails)
-lawyers (blood suckers)
-cops (blood suckers)
-judges (blood suckers)
-court personnel
-contractors (who built jails)
-investment firms (who invest in building jails)
-equipment contractors (who sell products to the jails).
-supply contractors (who sell services and supplies to maintain jails).
-probation officers (blood suckers)
-government (taxes convicts through probation fees, etc).

Is there any wonder why they will not correct this system?

Too much money to be lost if rights are restored and people get jobs.

SAD...so SAD.

One day...i only hope that there is a Civil War against this corrupt government who's only interest is in lining the pockets of their constituents and nepotist friends.

REVOLT AND TAKE ARMS!
Attorney In Fact

Tacoma, WA

#74 Aug 9, 2012
Amen Revolt I couldnt have said it better. I really thought that PO's gave a shit about people getting out of prison who wanted to straighten out their lives but now I think Im beginning to think different. We are getting married and the SOB still wants to send my fiance back to SD and We live in WA. STUPID. Yeah thats really supposed to rehabilitate him by keeping us apart the 1st year of our marriage.
Tbeauty41

Fort Worth, TX

#76 Sep 24, 2012
I was recently released from prison and trying to maintain steady job, and returning back into society is very difficult. I have a six month old daughter and I need housing and food stamps but my background stops me from being eligible. This is unfair to my child, because pf my past she shouldnt have to suffer. I also was not involved in selling drugs but because of association I am labeled. I have paid my debt to society, but society doesnt want us back!
Attorney In Fact

Tacoma, WA

#78 Sep 25, 2012
Tbeauty41 wrote:
I was recently released from prison and trying to maintain steady job, and returning back into society is very difficult. I have a six month old daughter and I need housing and food stamps but my background stops me from being eligible. This is unfair to my child, because pf my past she shouldnt have to suffer. I also was not involved in selling drugs but because of association I am labeled. I have paid my debt to society, but society doesnt want us back!
What state do you live in? you cant be denied Food stamps unless you are currently working and making too much money or in jail. You cant be turned down because of your background, that is discrimination. and how much are you making? send me your email address and I will try to help you.

“Struggling to Survive”

Since: Sep 12

Louisville

#79 Sep 27, 2012
I was convicted a non-violent felony and sentenced to 2 years in April 2011. I was released after 13 1/2 months for good behavior. I have a good paying job now but I sure can't find an apt. Does anyone in Louisville, KY know who rents to felons?
Attorney In Fact

Tacoma, WA

#80 Sep 27, 2012
Apparently either you are b/s/sing everyone in this post or you dont really want any help.
Attorney In Fact

Tacoma, WA

#81 Sep 27, 2012
Julybabe13 wrote:
I was convicted a non-violent felony and sentenced to 2 years in April 2011. I was released after 13 1/2 months for good behavior. I have a good paying job now but I sure can't find an apt. Does anyone in Louisville, KY know who rents to felons?
http://www.louisvillereentry.org/resources.ht...
http://corrections.ky.gov/reentry/Pages/Pre-R...

http://www.xamire.com/felony-friendly/kentuck...
Why life 4 felon

Roscoe, IL

#84 Sep 30, 2012
U Judge people and have no clue what people go through.. Im sure u had a silver spoon ur whole life... I was caught with drugs (pot) and went to prison and it was good for me I got my GED and when released went to Collage and graduated with A 4.0 GPA.. I am a ASE Certified Automotive Technican.. I have 3 kids and have been trouble free for 9 years.. I was immature and didnt have direction I paid for my crime and for some pot I have a life sentence being a felon..I have friends who are cops,fire fighters and even a cousin whos a lawyer .. the thing is that they did what I did they just werent caught and when they matured they got it together and now are great men.. Theres not one person who hasnt committed a felony once in there life I know u dont believe that but look up the laws urself and u will find that theres laws u have broke from just not knowing about them.. The point is that nobody is perfect and not everybody deserves a 2nd chance but what about the ones who turn there life around that didnt have a terrible crime why dfo they deserve a life sentence for a crime they committed before they could even drink ... I just hate when people speak from a place they dont know a damn thing about.. What about the shady cops or others in power thats ok though right..
Why life 4 felon

Roscoe, IL

#85 Sep 30, 2012
All these people do is keep kicking a man or women while there down..If u have lawyer u can get a felony dropped down but if ur to poor they are happy to give u a felony no matter how small ur crime may be compared to the child molester who just walked out with probation.. Modt Lawyers,Judges dont give 2 shits about anyone they get off on talking and looking down to the less fortunit people that come through.. I have a fiend who seved in the Army hes been home a year and got 4 DUIs this year .. The first one he got court supervision and kept his license he got his 2nd one and while out on bond got his 3rd and was involved in a accident.. He goes to court and gets extended court supervisonand a big fine..He kept his drivers License..Now he got his fourth with another accident and really is his 5th if u count a diffrent state hes avoiding jail again and is loosing his drivers license.. Others would be in prison and be A (FELON).. I tried stopping him from driving drunk but he just didnt care he says hes milatary he has what most cops,judges and lawyers have a problem with and that entitlement that the rules dont apply to them and that there on a diffrent level then the civilans..As u just read it sure looks like thats true cus the brotherhood (GANG) the cops,judges and lawyers all have and brag about is nothing but a buddy system like the gang members have they will lie cheat and steal for eachother .. Thats why he knows his DUIs which the 2nd is a felony dont matter cause hes one of them.. All u cops,judges and lawyers make me sick there nothing but thugs in postion of power no diffrent then the MOB .. Ask a cop he will tell u he is the LAW ..Its there world we jsut are living in it.. And all u people who havent delt with the system u better hope u never do cus its guilty till proven innocent and they will convict even if the proscuter thinks ur innocent its all about the connviction when u figure that out u will see its corrupt uncharged felons running the show for nothing but money and power ..charcter and morals are gone..
Attorney In Fact

Tacoma, WA

#86 Oct 1, 2012
Why life 4 felon wrote:
U Judge people and have no clue what people go through.. Im sure u had a silver spoon ur whole life... I was caught with drugs (pot) and went to prison and it was good for me I got my GED and when released went to Collage and graduated with A 4.0 GPA.. I am a ASE Certified Automotive Technican.. I have 3 kids and have been trouble free for 9 years.. I was immature and didnt have direction I paid for my crime and for some pot I have a life sentence being a felon..I have friends who are cops,fire fighters and even a cousin whos a lawyer .. the thing is that they did what I did they just werent caught and when they matured they got it together and now are great men.. Theres not one person who hasnt committed a felony once in there life I know u dont believe that but look up the laws urself and u will find that theres laws u have broke from just not knowing about them.. The point is that nobody is perfect and not everybody deserves a 2nd chance but what about the ones who turn there life around that didnt have a terrible crime why dfo they deserve a life sentence for a crime they committed before they could even drink ... I just hate when people speak from a place they dont know a damn thing about.. What about the shady cops or others in power thats ok though right..
I am not judging anyone about anything.
Attorney In Fact

Tacoma, WA

#87 Oct 1, 2012
huh???
James Thomas

Las Vegas, NV

#88 Nov 5, 2012
Of course they don't want to hire ex felons, because they make money when we give up and end up back in prison. If anybody hears about someone hiring in Las Vegas, please let me know.
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Attorney in fact

Tacoma, WA

#92 Nov 6, 2012
Im an ex felon too so dont feel bad. I cant get a job to save my life.
Greg Fritsch

Delavan, IL

#93 Nov 9, 2012
AMERICAN wrote:
There are very few jobs that will hire a convicted felon. The gov. will not give assisted housing or hud to felons. Now ok, there are felons that have been charged with rape, child molestation and other disgusting, ungodly things such as this, but I am just simply talking about offenses such as a drug charge, or stealing. If you are convicted of a drug charge than you are not even able to receive food stamps. Hell if I could not get a job to feed myself and my family, or clothe and house us, I would probably steal and sell drugs too, whatever it takes to survive. So how can we expect felons to stay out of prison if they have no choice but to continue doing the same things to survive, which will eventually lead them straight back to the pin. God loves and forgives everyone, who are we not to as well?
Really, my wife who is a convicted felon and is CURRENTLY on "Food Stamps", through the state of oklahoma, has a gps device on her ankle and is restricted in a house and the county in which it is located and is still under the jurisdiction of the ODOC, AND, she also receives disability payments. I don't know where you get your info, but you might look into it a little further. This of course is in oklahoma, not sure about any place else other than Texas.
Greg Fritsch

Delavan, IL

#94 Nov 9, 2012
Attorney In Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
if you can avoid it do not tell his PO that you are on section 8 because his po will say no and section 8 wont find out if you dont tell them. just tell his po you have a job working from home or whatever, he wont check on you. just make sure that your son gets his mail somewhere else, section 8 will check that. I am fighting this battle with my fiance's po ( he is still in prison) and section 8 who i intend to throw case law at because there is double talk in their regulations.


Attorney in Fact huh,YOUR A BULLSHITTER!!!!!If you allow your son to live with you, they WILL find out, some way, some how, some day, and then they will revoke his parole and send him back to prison and THEN...they may even evict you out of your home!! I know it's tough to listen to, but, those are the facts. You can take the chance, but be willing to accept the consequences.
Anon132012

Honolulu, HI

#95 Jan 2, 2013
In my personal opinion, Felonies have harsh consequences because it serves as a deterrent to keep society in order. If they made it "easier" for people who commit felonies to go back into society more people would be committing felonies. "Punish one and the rest will learn." It is definitely unfortunate to see honest folks who serve their time and pay their debt to society to have to suffer for the rest of their lives. People feel that it is better for the overall society. I am not going to debate on whether it is fair or unfair because many people can take many standpoints on it.

For instance, people would say yeah but if these people go back to a life of crime that is tax dollars being wasted into the prison system. Also police, DA, court and judge fees and times wasted to put this person back in prison. On the other hand it keeps the citizens in order as to not go through this long and strenuous of getting into all of this trouble. Therefore, many of the citizens think twice before doing something stupid.

Their are many impoverished countries who don't have a well tailored justice system that is properly enforced. India would be a good example, a woman raped on a bus and the police did not do anything about it. It caused massive riots around the town. Probably tons of damage to the roads, streets, and businesses. If the police had brought the crime to justice and properly investigated and charged the people responsible the riot probably would not exist because they are satisfied also because they are afraid of getting into trouble as well.

Just my 2 cents.

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