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What happened to 2nd chances? Convicted Felons are treated unfairly

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AMERICAN

Douglasville, GA

#1 Jul 24, 2009
There are very few jobs that will hire a convicted felon. The gov. will not give assisted housing or hud to felons. Now ok, there are felons that have been charged with rape, child molestation and other disgusting, ungodly things such as this, but I am just simply talking about offenses such as a drug charge, or stealing. If you are convicted of a drug charge than you are not even able to receive food stamps. Hell if I could not get a job to feed myself and my family, or clothe and house us, I would probably steal and sell drugs too, whatever it takes to survive. So how can we expect felons to stay out of prison if they have no choice but to continue doing the same things to survive, which will eventually lead them straight back to the pin. God loves and forgives everyone, who are we not to as well?
soomi lim

Versailles, KY

#2 Aug 21, 2009
I agree with the statement above. I wish I had the means and knowledge to start a foundation to assist felons with getting housing, going to school, and getting jobs. I am a convicted felon. I was charged with tampering with physical evidence after the police came to my house looking for my fiance and I lied and said I hadn't seen him, and he was really inside my house. I was taken to jail, where I told them the truth. I was released and so was my fiance. Because I told the police truth my fiance and his family was furious with me and a few days later I was attacked in my home and taken to the hospital and later into protective custody. I have changed my whole life and have choosen to surround myself with people that will help me stay on the right path. I am currently a college student. With a 3.2 GPA. I have a passion for people and would like to one day become a RN. But, after appling to the program I was denied for having a felony. I was told ro get a lawyer and try and have the conviction removed. But lets get reall here. If I had money like I would have got a lawyer back when the whole thing happened. I can't afford it. I'm barley able to pay rent. I can buy my children school clothes. Every day I wake up I hate myself for the discions I made in the past, I think about giving up all the time. I wonder why I'm still here. What does God have planned for me. Because right now every door is being slammed in my face and I don't know where to turn. It upsets me to see my children have to suffer. I would like to set an example for my children, raise them to be respectful adults. I just don't know how my children and I are goign to make it, in a world that places so much judgement on us.

Since: Aug 09

Metropolis, Illinois

#3 Aug 21, 2009
Even if your not on probation or parole try going to your local probation office and asking if they have a list of workplaces that hire felons, most of them do.
I am An Ex-felon and i have been out for about five years and i agree with AMERICAN too.
There needs to be justice for those of us that served our sentence.
But a little word for AMERICAN, not all registered sex offenders are child molesters or rapists, thanks to some dumb little B#$%@ i got convicted and sentenced to for and a half years and did every single day of it because she lied, and also told the judge, states attorney and grand jury that she lied, so even the innocent get screwed.
Also try hard2hire.com its a job search thats dedicated to felons but they haven't found anything for me yet, but i'm in vegas so it's also impossible here.
tim

Sacramento, CA

#4 Sep 28, 2009
AMERICAN wrote:
There are very few jobs that will hire a convicted felon. The gov. will not give assisted housing or hud to felons. Now ok, there are felons that have been charged with rape, child molestation and other disgusting, ungodly things such as this, but I am just simply talking about offenses such as a drug charge, or stealing. If you are convicted of a drug charge than you are not even able to receive food stamps. Hell if I could not get a job to feed myself and my family, or clothe and house us, I would probably steal and sell drugs too, whatever it takes to survive. So how can we expect felons to stay out of prison if they have no choice but to continue doing the same things to survive, which will eventually lead them straight back to the pin. God loves and forgives everyone, who are we not to as well?
After a felon slaps society in the face, why then does society have to take care of them. Crime should have negative consequences and foods stamps and other forms of gifts from society does not equal negative consequences. A person makes their choices and then they have to live with the consequences. If they had a temporary bout of insanity it still does not erase the crime. If they get religion after well good for them but it still does not erase the crime.Society can not function if people are not held accountable for their behavior.

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Since: Aug 09

Metropolis, Illinois

#5 Sep 28, 2009
yeah and when you tell a felon that he cant get a job after he has already done his time for whatever he or she did then your are promoting them to go out and get things illegally in order to provide for their families.
so in other words you are contradicting yourself, lets not give felons a second chance to set his life straight, lets let him kill and steal to support his family instead so we can spend thirty five thousand a year to support him in prison where he doesnt do anything.
then again it makes sense, your probably one of the people thats ok with the illegals coming over and getting welfare too.
MORGANSHADOW

Greenville, SC

#7 Nov 6, 2009
I myself am a convicted felon, on stupid drug charges, not ingesting, but stealing them. I was young and got caught up in a crowd that swore nothing would happen, they got greedy and I tried to stop, but it was already too late. I am currently on probation with 5 years hanging over me. I've definitely learned from my mistakes. When I was arrested, my son was only 8 months old. I also have 2 older daughters, 4 and 5 at the time. Now, I can barely get by with the job I was lucky to get, I've lost primary custodial rights to my 4 year old daughter, and all I ask for is food stamps so that my kids can eat. I don't even care about feeding myself. The Cabinet for Health and Family Services said that I couldn't because of the charges and that I make too much money for my kids to receive food stamps. The government sucks and there needs to be more help and assistance for those trying to better their lives.
Amanda

Eggleston, VA

#8 Jun 12, 2010
So I am a mother to three children of a convicted felons and it definatly hurts the kids more than anything. My ex is stuck at a job where he's been five years works 40 hours a week and only takes home 102 after all deductions. How can someone survive on that? He's had job offers and bc of his charge he's turned away. He was an addict for a long time and the first time he got in real trouble it really straightned him up. Trust me he's a diff. person I would know. Because he can't find another job he still lives with his dad, carry ins. on his children , pay his fines for his license back; basically with a felon your life is torn upside down until it's removed. And if anyone happenes to know the steps to doing so please post.
Bluebird

Whittier, CA

#9 Jun 25, 2010
tim wrote:
<quoted text>After a felon slaps society in the face, why then does society have to take care of them. Crime should have negative consequences and foods stamps and other forms of gifts from society does not equal negative consequences. A person makes their choices and then they have to live with the consequences. If they had a temporary bout of insanity it still does not erase the crime. If they get religion after well good for them but it still does not erase the crime.Society can not function if people are not held accountable for their behavior.
Actually, Society IS PAYING FOR THEM! If they can't get a job, most likely, they will commit crimes again and go back to prison, and we have to pay for their housing and healthcare. I don't care if prison is a horrible place, it costs money.

Not only that, families and CHILDREN of felons have to suffer because most often felons can't get jobs.

Felons won't be hired at McDonalds even. And c'mon, McDonalds? I'd rather they have a working job in society because I DON'T want to pay for them! Prisons are overcrowded here in California and felons are being released early. We don't have the money to house them so give them jobs so they don't commit crimes in my house.
Juwah

Delray Beach, FL

#10 Jul 18, 2010
Really, what can they do? I am a mother of 3 and live on section 8 with their father, which is a convicted felon. I know I am putting myself at risk, but these are my children's father. Shouldn't this be about keeping families together. We all make mistakes, we all fall short. I don't want to sound like a conspiracist, but it seems like these laws and programs are to keep our communities from ever progressing. What are we to do? My children NEED their father.
Lisa

Newport, KY

#11 Jul 20, 2010
I totally agree with rednekwizard...Unfortunately we ALL make mistakes sometimes worse than others. That doesn't mean that a convicted felon can not change his ways and "see the light". I myself am not a convicted felon but my bf is and I feel for the fact that he is trying his best to stay legal and I have to say I actually respect and admire him for the fact that he has a job where after taxes and child support he only brings home roughly $100 every 2 weeks and he has not reverted back to his old ways. I'm not saying we should cater to convicted felons but at least realize that they paid for their crimes and should be allowed to prove that they can be upstanding, responsible members of society. Tim how would you feel if someone you know or yourself got caught up in a bad situation and you were treated like you had the black plague?? No one asked you to condone the illegal actions but you should really think twice before you condemn and judge a person. So Tim and for anyone else for that matter get off your preaching pulpits and your throne because you are no better than anyone else on the face of this earth.
I DID MY TIME

Lowell, MA

#13 Aug 5, 2010
IM IN THE SAME BOAT AS ALL THE OTHER CONVICTED FELONS IVE BEEN TURNED DOWN FOR TWO JOBS THIS WEEK I APPLIED FOR AND I KNOW IM VERY QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION I HAD EVEN GOOD JOB REFS BUT NOPE AS SOON AS THEY SAW MY RECORD THEY CHANGED IT ALL UP ON ME TREATING ME LIKE IM DIRT I ONLY WANT TO MOVE ON WORK HARD AND PUT MY PAST BEHIND ME I DO HAVE A BAD RECORD AND I REGRET EVERY BIT OF IT BUT COME ON HOW CAN SOME ONE HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO INTO YOUR PAST AND PUT YOU OUT LIKE THAT IM BROKE NOW I NEED A JOB BAD I SAID TO MY GIRLFRIEND THE OTHER DAY IM GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO CRIME IF I CANT GET A BRAKE SOME TIME SOON ALL IM ASKING GIVE FELONS A SECOND CHANCE SOME TIME A THIRD IS NEEDED TO LOL BUT IN ALL HONESTY I WAS A MESS UP BUT WOULDNT YOU RATHER HAVE ME NOW WANT BETTER AND BECOME A HONEST HARD WORKING CITIZEN WHO PAYS TAXS A CONTRIBUTES BACK
Fiance to a Felon

Euclid, OH

#14 Sep 12, 2010
My fiance is a convicted felon, although the girl admitted she lied about how old she was, he gets a felony sex offender charge hung over him for life (he did 10yrs). He earned a business degree while serving time, and cannot even get a job at McD's makin minimum wage! He can't live with me til I get out of Section 8 Housing, and he can't even get foodstamps in Ohio bc of the charge! He's been able to here & there get work through a temp agency that pays everyone minimum wage, but with all the jobs Ohio's lost due to jobs being sent overseas... those bs temp jobs are even hard to get!
I have a college degree & some of my friends (luckily 1 is a social worker & grantwriter) have asked for a grant to form a small agency in Ohio to assist felons in finding work & affordable housing. They are very interested. I think there are ALOT of people who made mistakes in their past, and would like to work & support their families, but society still shuns them. Absolutely right on the point, most criminals go back to a life of crime, because they HAVE TO, NOT because they want to! BIG DIFFERENCE!

Since: Aug 09

Metropolis, Illinois

#15 Sep 15, 2010
Fiance to a Felon wrote:
My fiance is a convicted felon, although the girl admitted she lied about how old she was, he gets a felony sex offender charge hung over him for life (he did 10yrs). He earned a business degree while serving time, and cannot even get a job at McD's makin minimum wage! He can't live with me til I get out of Section 8 Housing, and he can't even get foodstamps in Ohio bc of the charge! He's been able to here & there get work through a temp agency that pays everyone minimum wage, but with all the jobs Ohio's lost due to jobs being sent overseas... those bs temp jobs are even hard to get!
I have a college degree & some of my friends (luckily 1 is a social worker & grantwriter) have asked for a grant to form a small agency in Ohio to assist felons in finding work & affordable housing. They are very interested. I think there are ALOT of people who made mistakes in their past, and would like to work & support their families, but society still shuns them. Absolutely right on the point, most criminals go back to a life of crime, because they HAVE TO, NOT because they want to! BIG DIFFERENCE!
Thank you, I have been out of prison for five years now, I haven't even gotten a traffic ticket and i own a hotrod 86 camaro.
I know cars and trucks, but because of my conviction, like your fiance, i cant find a job, not even a temp job.
And the sad part is that I am in las vegas, they hire the illegals before they hire felons, which is worse, the true american who wants to turn his life around or the illegal that comes from a country where it is alright to force a twelve year old to have sex.
Says Me

Philadelphia, PA

#16 Sep 23, 2010
There are No second chances..

Since: Aug 09

Metropolis, Illinois

#17 Sep 24, 2010
They give Illegals a job, thta is a second chance, they broke numerous laws to be here.
enigma01

San Diego, CA

#18 Sep 29, 2010
tim wrote:
<quoted text>After a felon slaps society in the face, why then does society have to take care of them. Crime should have negative consequences and foods stamps and other forms of gifts from society does not equal negative consequences. A person makes their choices and then they have to live with the consequences. If they had a temporary bout of insanity it still does not erase the crime. If they get religion after well good for them but it still does not erase the crime.Society can not function if people are not held accountable for their behavior.
[Quote who="enigma01"] "]<quoted text>So basically from your statement, you think all felons or people that made a bad decision once in there life should, live on the street and be treated like garbage. Even if they are trying or have turned there lives around. People like you are what makes America into the hypocritical, screwed up mess it is today. What, you are a staint. I doubt it. You just haven't been caught yet most likely. If you are a repeat felon, you don't even try to change your life around I can see the need for contant punishment or worse. But really, you make one mistake and have to be punshied for the rest of your life. Get off your high hourse buddy, your night Jesus Christ.
lena mcdonald

AOL

#19 Nov 1, 2010
Bluebird wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, Society IS PAYING FOR THEM! If they can't get a job, most likely, they will commit crimes again and go back to prison, and we have to pay for their housing and healthcare. I don't care if prison is a horrible place, it costs money.
Not only that, families and CHILDREN of felons have to suffer because most often felons can't get jobs.
Felons won't be hired at McDonalds even. And c'mon, McDonalds? I'd rather they have a working job in society because I DON'T want to pay for them! Prisons are overcrowded here in California and felons are being released early. We don't have the money to house them so give them jobs so they don't commit crimes in my house.
most drug addicts hurt only themselves & their immediate families. They are not child molestors,illegals, thiefs, but these felons get help. We're telling them go, live on the streets, starve, & get sick & die. There are some drug addicts that can be recovering, & integrated back into society. They've paid for their crime in prison & parole. At least let them have food stamps & medical.
x convict lover

Dayton, OH

#20 Jan 22, 2011
my hubby was convicted 12 years ago still cant get a job has been selfemployed as a handy man all these years. Has applied for over 5000 jobs only hired at 3.Has a four year BS degree from a major university was arrested on drug charges. was innocent did not know the dude he took a ride from had 20 pounds of MJ in his trunk!Plead guilty on a plea bargain to get no time only probation. NO JOB 2 KIDS LOOSING OUR HOME AGAIN!!!Interesting info on the EEOC website employers are not allow to discriminate against felons unless conviction is job relate.Check out the EEOC website know your rights, and timeline to file a complaint next time were gonna sue!! EEOC.gov
x convict lover

Dayton, OH

#21 Jan 22, 2011
If all x cons would rise up and file complaints agaist these prospective employers maybe they would think twice about refusing us the right to work and earn a living.It is a form of discrimination according to the EEOC it targets specific groups hispanics, blacks, and men.Some states have passed laws against asking if you have ever been convicted of a felon on the job app. This ellininates felons from even being considered for a position. Or from applying in the first place if they ask most felons walk away.Some states have taken out the dreaded BOX.check out HELP.com fight back know your rights!! eeoc.gov
Tiffanie

Gibbsboro, NJ

#22 Feb 24, 2011
Hello, well my fiance was a convicted felon as well he, has served three years in and 3 years out on parole, he has been on his own and off parole now for 3 years this was all over a drug charge, it cracks me up because, he has tried so hard to find a job, finding housing and trying to receive food stamps and let me tell you that this is not a fun ride, but for the people that are only concerned about their selves need to sit back and really think that if it was them wouldn't you want a second chance don't you think that you deserve a chance to at least prove that you can be a better person, because I think that everyone deserves a 2nd chance, no body said that you bow down to anyone, yes they did the crime and they did the time so why cant they move on, I dont know what this world has come too, really!!! Judging someone is not right, so yes these individuals come into society after serving time and doing right but yet can't afford to feed their families and being turned down from every aspect in every aspect of their life, i think that the government has a lot to do with this as well, they should have programs to help and lend a hand to people who need it, everybody is suppose to be helping each other,NOBODY and i mean nobody is perfect, but people deserve help if it's needed.

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