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[Tinka]

RJF Dupage wrote:

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Great everything is going to be out of sink when they get done building the homes...They have no liability to speak of...

[Tinka]

I think you should try tonight to hit like 5 threads, get busy...Speak your mind, and if I come across any of them, I will speak mine...

So then you can come back with something more and important...

[Auroranorth]

Ish Tov wrote:

The cover of Beck's book tells it all: he's a NAZI!!!
So many dittoheaded Yanks are so brainwashed by the propaganda of Beck, Rush, et al., they think that a plan to bring them affordable healthcare is "Nazi Communism" LOL!!!... whatever that is.
They don't have to make sense... a few slick cliches and the rednecks all get a little hardon (that's all they're capable of, a very little one...).
Pendejos.

an example of how Obama stabbed his environmental voters in the back

continuing the true story of Obama w. BUsh

Defenders Executive Vice President (and former head of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service) Jamie Rappaport Clark has been urging the Obama administration to restore protections for these wolves. And it is clear that we have a very strong legal case against the wolf de-listing.

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Thanks to the compassionate support of caring people like you, our first ad has been up and running in Times Square, highlighting the terrible killing of some of America’s most beloved wolves.

We’ve mobilized more than 94,000 caring wildlife activists to call on Interior Secretary Ken Salazar to restore protections for these magnificent animals -- messages that Defenders of Wildlife’s Jamie Rappaport Clark will personally deliver to the Department of Interior before the end of the month.

there you have it another example of the mouth from Kenya engaging in Indonesian Muslim politics right from the White House

stay tuned to the
teach a democrat how stupid they are channel

[RJF Dupage]

Tinka wrote:

I think you should try tonight to hit like 5 threads, get busy...Speak your mind, and if I come across any of them, I will speak mine...
So then you can come back with something more and important...

I can't keep up with all your posts....and namecalling.

But what do you think about Obama wanting to hold up a terrorist investigation? Hmmm, wonder what they might find. Perhaps as you might say, that the terrorist group is a part of Obama's "circle?"

That's all for tonight folks. Looking forward to the NFL on Sunday.
Catch y'all later.

[reeltime]

this is going to be like shooting fish in a barrel...

McCain Campaign Emails Contradict Palin's "Going Rogue"

"Sarah Palin's much-discussed book, "Going Rogue," hasn't even been officially released yet and already its accuracy is in question.
The Huffington Post has obtained internal McCain campaign emails -- addressed to and by the former vice presidential candidate -- that directly contradict or cast serious doubt on several of Palin's assertions. The emails were passed along by a mid-level staffer who called early excerpts of "Going Rogue", a serious mixing of truth and imagination."...."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/14/mcca...

"mixing"

the "Bachmann Syndrome". soon to be renamed.

[reeltime]

Republican Obstructionism Cut Benefits in Newest Unemployment Extension

"And the Democrats are doing what, exactly, about this? Do the Republicans want the economy to get worse, hoping it means they'll sweep the mid-terms?(As if we needed any further proof of their sociopathic mindset.)

While this piece is about California, it will apply to other states as well:"....
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/republ...

like some Dem won't point that out come election time. "Just more of the same"

...."In a different thread talking about Obama's numerous achievements as a US Senator,
much was said about the success rate of the multiple bills he sponsored
or co-sponsored. It was apparent that several of the people posting there
weren't aware of the obstruction tactics employed by the Republicans,
earning them the title of the Most Obstructionist Congress in American History.

Stopping any legislation for anything that might benefit this country, or the people of this country, is a badge of honor to Republicans. No way, you say?

"The strategy of being obstructionist can work or fail...and so far it's working for us. Democrats are taking the blame for not getting anything done."

(R)Trent Lott, Roll Call, April 18, 2007

Sounds like a badge of honor to me. And one this Republican is pretty proud of, to boot!"....
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/200...

[reeltime]

first it was abortion coverage.....

‘Death Panels’ Hypocrisy: RNC Health Insurance Provider Promotes End-Of-Life Counseling

...."Over the summer, one of the GOP’s loudest complaints against health care legislation was a provision offering senior citizens Medicare reimbursement for end-of-life counseling. Republicans claimed it would create so-called “death panels” or urge seniors citizens to die. RNC Chairman Michael Steele “endorsed this type of rhetoric, and on July 28, the RNC put out research document claiming that the government would “dictate” Americans’“end-of-life care.”

But ThinkProgress has noticed that Cigna, the RNC’s health insurance provider, also urges beneficiaries to think about end-of-life services. Cigna’s website has a page called “Care at the End of Life,” which covers topics such as how to talk with “loved ones” about “end-of-life choices” and whether to stop life-prolonging treatment:"....
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/14/rnc-healt...

[Florida]

reeltime wrote:

first it was abortion coverage.....
‘Death Panels’ Hypocrisy: RNC Health Insurance Provider Promotes End-Of-Life Counseling
...."Over the summer, one of the GOP’s loudest complaints against health care legislation was a provision offering senior citizens Medicare reimbursement for end-of-life counseling. Republicans claimed it would create so-called “death panels” or urge seniors citizens to die. RNC Chairman Michael Steele “endorsed this type of rhetoric, and on July 28, the RNC put out research document claiming that the government would “dictate” Americans’“end-of-life care.”
But ThinkProgress has noticed that Cigna, the RNC’s health insurance provider, also urges beneficiaries to think about end-of-life services. Cigna’s website has a page called “Care at the End of Life,” which covers topics such as how to talk with “loved ones” about “end-of-life choices” and whether to stop life-prolonging treatment:"....
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/14/rnc-healt...

A posted Quote by "PooPoo Platter from another thread: "You must be laughing at what you see in your mirror. The shooter will be court martialed and if found guilty he'll likely be put to death. So rest assured the matter will be investigated.

You don't really want Congress to investigate, the killings at Fort Hood, right? What would that accomplish?" ... End Quote.

Florida's answer: It would open up the books of the Obama administration for discovery of criminal, war and hate crimes and investigate acts of treason within the Obama administration against the United States...

The Outsourced Socialist Poison of Liberalism

[taxpayer]

Have you read the book? Did you fact check your post? Did you ever write an email that wasn't exactly what was going on in your head?
Doesn't Huffington have any real news to write about? From everything you have posted here from them they seem little more than a gossip rag.

reeltime wrote:

this is going to be like shooting fish in a barrel...
McCain Campaign Emails Contradict Palin's "Going Rogue"
"Sarah Palin's much-discussed book, "Going Rogue," hasn't even been officially released yet and already its accuracy is in question.
The Huffington Post has obtained internal McCain campaign emails -- addressed to and by the former vice presidential candidate -- that directly contradict or cast serious doubt on several of Palin's assertions. The emails were passed along by a mid-level staffer who called early excerpts of "Going Rogue", a serious mixing of truth and imagination."...."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/14/mcca...
"mixing"
the "Bachmann Syndrome". soon to be renamed.

[taxpayer]

What is the problem with posting something that at least explains a little about what is going on? You don't want to represent the whole story why? Apparently Republicans are trying to do more and the Democrats are obstructing. ACORN again? Illegal immigration? The Democrats seem intent on spending but not solving any problems.

"Observers of the weeks-long debate might not be surprised to learn that the sticking points remain the same: McConnell is insisting on consideration of an amendment to prevent ACORN from receiving federal funds, and another designed to filter illegal immigrants out of the workforce. The Kentucky Republican said the eight amendments Republicans are offering won’t take much longer to consider than the six provisions Reid has proposed on behalf of Democrats."
http://washingtonindependent.com/65254/mcconn...

reeltime wrote:

Republican Obstructionism Cut Benefits in Newest Unemployment Extension
"And the Democrats are doing what, exactly, about this? Do the Republicans want the economy to get worse, hoping it means they'll sweep the mid-terms?(As if we needed any further proof of their sociopathic mindset.)
While this piece is about California, it will apply to other states as well:"....
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/republ...
like some Dem won't point that out come election time. "Just more of the same"
...."In a different thread talking about Obama's numerous achievements as a US Senator,
much was said about the success rate of the multiple bills he sponsored
or co-sponsored. It was apparent that several of the people posting there
weren't aware of the obstruction tactics employed by the Republicans,
earning them the title of the Most Obstructionist Congress in American History.
Stopping any legislation for anything that might benefit this country, or the people of this country, is a badge of honor to Republicans. No way, you say?
"The strategy of being obstructionist can work or fail...and so far it's working for us. Democrats are taking the blame for not getting anything done."
(R)Trent Lott, Roll Call, April 18, 2007
Sounds like a badge of honor to me. And one this Republican is pretty proud of, to boot!"....
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/200...

[symbiotic]

THERE IS NO RACISM AGAINST BLACKS OR OBAMA that even remotely resembles the racism against whites especially white men that disagree with obama! our country has turned into a joke but then again we have a clown as a president!

[Tinka]

What Terrorist investigation, into Congress?
I agree, they should investigate that place big time, but who would? Hey Maybe Obama get's invited frequently to the Bush ranch too? Have you heard anything about that?

[taxpayer]

The difference comes from the government plan to advise doctors on "best practices". Your article uses the phrase "patients could choose" very very loosely. It is likely that doctors will be required to limit care to the elderly and to tell them exactly why. I don't understand why you haven't figured out why when government is mandating something it is a big deal.

reeltime wrote:

first it was abortion coverage.....
‘Death Panels’ Hypocrisy: RNC Health Insurance Provider Promotes End-Of-Life Counseling
...."Over the summer, one of the GOP’s loudest complaints against health care legislation was a provision offering senior citizens Medicare reimbursement for end-of-life counseling. Republicans claimed it would create so-called “death panels” or urge seniors citizens to die. RNC Chairman Michael Steele “endorsed this type of rhetoric, and on July 28, the RNC put out research document claiming that the government would “dictate” Americans’“end-of-life care.”
But ThinkProgress has noticed that Cigna, the RNC’s health insurance provider, also urges beneficiaries to think about end-of-life services. Cigna’s website has a page called “Care at the End of Life,” which covers topics such as how to talk with “loved ones” about “end-of-life choices” and whether to stop life-prolonging treatment:"....
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/14/rnc-healt...

[reeltime]

symbiotic wrote:

THERE IS NO RACISM AGAINST BLACKS OR OBAMA that even remotely resembles the racism against whites especially white men that disagree with obama! our country has turned into a joke but then again we have a clown as a president!

and the door opens....

Glenn Beck gets to ask dumb white-guy questions to a room full of black conservatives

"It is hard to explain to white people like Glenn Beck why their "innocent" questions about race actually just reveal their ignorance and their false assumptions about people of other races and the nature of race relations.

But Beck is so blitheringly un-self-aware that he decided to give it a go anyway yesterday on his Fox News show. As you might expect, it was a serial embarrassment.

Beck, you see, was careful to hand-select his audience, people "the media claim don't think exist" -- black conservatives! Not that he ever actually explains this to the viewing audience -- you have to figure that out for yourselves as the show goes along, like the moment when he asks the audience if they think we're headed toward socialism (they all raise their hands) or are accused of being not "black enough" if they are conservative (again, a unanimous show of hands).

And it let Beck lead exchanges like this, with Beck regular Charles Payne and talk-show host Lisa Fritsch:

Beck: How many people here identify themselves as African Americans?(About a third raise their hands) OK -- Why?

Payne: It's interchangeable.

Beck: But wait, wait. Why not identify yourself as Americans?

Fritsch: Well, people can look at you and tell you're black. You can't escape that.

Beck: Yeah, but I don't identify myself as white, or a white American.

Will Brown of the New York Republican Community Coalition points out, adroitly, that "African American" is an "evolution" from the "N word" -- and certainly is preferable. Moreover, it wasn't black people who invented the "N word" or the segregation from enjoying the full fruits of American citizenship it represented -- it was white people. "African American" represents the recognition of their dignity and their rights as Americans.

But this point sails right over Beck's head, because he's too ignorant to appreciate the implications. Had Beck even a smidgen of American history, particularly pertaining to civil rights, he'd know that white Americans for most of the decades of the past century used the word "American" and "real American" almost exclusively to refer to white people -- and that this motif lingers even today (see, e.g., Sarah Palin's references to "real Americans" during the campaign -- speaking before small-town, all-white audiences).

This historical and cultural ignorance just kept manifesting itself:...."
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/glenn...

[Tinka]

RJF Dupage wrote:

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I can't keep up with all your posts....and namecalling.
But what do you think about Obama wanting to hold up a terrorist investigation? Hmmm, wonder what they might find. Perhaps as you might say, that the terrorist group is a part of Obama's "circle?"
That's all for tonight folks. Looking forward to the NFL on Sunday.
Catch y'all later.

Oh I am ever so sorry for being so rude, I don't know know what get's into me sometimes...You are right I spend way too much time on topix...

[taxpayer]

I'd be willing to give Obama a pass no matter what was discovered if that was what it would take to get a full investigation. Our troops are more important than politics. The problems need to be fully disclosed and resolved. How many more terrorists have infiltrated our military?

Florida wrote:

<quoted text> Florida's answer: It would open up the books of the Obama administration for discovery of criminal, war and hate crimes and investigate acts of treason within the Obama administration against the United States...
The Outsourced Socialist Poison of Liberalism

[Tinka]

symbiotic wrote:

THERE IS NO RACISM AGAINST BLACKS OR OBAMA that even remotely resembles the racism against whites especially white men that disagree with obama! our country has turned into a joke but then again we have a clown as a president!

No the Clown was Bush...I think the racism may have actually taken a turn now, and that's good...A land of the free should not be a racist nation, that does not allow people of color doing the same thing as any other person...Oh no the country was a joke, when Bush ran it, everyone was laughing...

Now that no more racism is present we can look at laws maybe soon differently, stop all this discrimination crap, and deal with real issues at hand? I can't believe what people can take court...And they make actual cases out of it, one case can change a whole law?

[reeltime]

taxpayer wrote:

Have you read the book? Did you fact check your post? Did you ever write an email that wasn't exactly what was going on in your head?
Doesn't Huffington have any real news to write about? From everything you have posted here from them they seem little more than a gossip rag.
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it's not just Huffpost....

Rogue Fact: Palin attacks "Democrat lawmaker" who's actually a Republican
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911140005

Rogue Fact: Palin still falsely claiming stimulus money for energy effiency she vetoed required tougher building codes
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911140014

Rogue Fact: Palin suggests "no other candidate" subjected to scrutiny "about their hair, makeup, or clothes"
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911140013

Rogue Fact: Palin misleads on aerial hunting
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911140012

Rogue Fact: Palin memoir stands by falsehood that Obama opposed "protect[ing] babies born alive after botched abortions"
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911140010

Rogue Fact: Palin falsely suggests poor "hit hardest" by cap-and-trade
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911140008

Rogue Fact: In memoir, Palin still distorting NY Times article to defend "palling around with terrorists" claim
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911140006

maybe if her ghost writer wasn't as wingnut crazy as she is....

Palin co-author Lynn Vincent's inflammatory record

"On May 21, HarperCollins announced that former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin had chosen World magazine features editor Lynn Vincent to co-author Palin's memoir, Going Rogue: An American Life. Palin's choice of Vincent, however, is not without controversy, as Vincent -- both in her writing for World and her other books -- has a record of false and inflammatory attacks on Democrats and liberals and has stridently attacked the gay community, likening gay people to communists and suggesting that homosexuality is a mental disorder."....
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911130011

i'm sure they got along really well.

[Savant]

Robspost39 wrote:

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"old Adolph" was himself a socialist who would have had more in common with today's radical dems then not!

In fact, old Adolph Hitler was an ANTI-SOCIALIST who sent real socialists to concentration camps and firing squads.

The foolish mistake you're making is, ironically, like the one the German Communist Party made--equating Nazism with socialism--a mistake that got those dumb Communists uncozy accomodations right next to the socialists in the camps.
Now Hitler and his people used the label socialist because they knew that socialist ideals were appealing to German workers, and some peasants, middle class folk and intellectuals as well.
But when REAL socialists spoke of socialism, they had in mind a cooperative commonwealth, and often a classless society--not a RACIST and genocidal CLASS society. And for REAL socialists, socialism could certainly NOT mean suppression of all working class institutions since it was expected that the working class would lead the way to this classless society. But in the fight for such a society it was CLASS, not RACE, that essential. A Nordic master race would have been anathema to any real socialist, as one can discern if you explore the past two hundred years of socialsit thought.
Now the German Communists made a mistake similar to yours, though from a "left" perspective. They correctly noted that the Nazis were really offer a different, though obviously more brutal form of "bourgeois" rule under capitalism. They insisted that German socialists, who rejected their Stalinized Marxism, were really no different from the Nazis---just another group of phony socialists fronting for the ruling class.
You claim (from a "right" perspective), that Nazis are no different from socialists because they supposedly all socialists.
The Communists claimed (from a "left" perspective) that non-Communist, non-Stalinist socialists are basically the same as Nazis because they are (like Nazis) "phony" socialists.
Well that kind of sloppy thinking actually HELPED Hitler to power, and thus the Communists foolishly destroyed themselves.
In short, "National Socialism" (Nazism) was no more socialist, than the Stalinist east German "Democratic Peoples Republic" was democratic,popular or a republic.

[taxpayer]

Did you see the show? Do you really know what you are talking about, or are you just pasting the propaganda again?

Real Americans are capitalists who understand that our rights were endowed by our Creator, not by government. Only the socialists refuse to acknowledge that. Their agenda is threatened so they pull the race card or whatever other smear or fear tactics they think will work.

Beck is offering a platform. Where are the black conservatives on MSNBC? They don't exist in that world do they? Why not?

reeltime wrote:

<quoted text>and the door opens....
Glenn Beck gets to ask dumb white-guy questions to a room full of black conservatives