Washington's insane tax obsession

Dec 4, 2013 Full story: The Washington Post 140

The budget deal that Rep. Paul Ryan and Sen. Patty Murray are discussing includes new revenue.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#96 Dec 10, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
The DemocRATs want to tax miles driven in your car which also tracks your driving habits.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090429/020...
4 years later the same thing
http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/01/obama-mul...
People still don't realize this but the federal income tax was the best tracking device ever invented because it tags the tax payer like an animal on the Discovery Channel. Every year you update your government file with your current address,occupation, work location(on w-2s),finances-bank and investment among other things. This is exactly why they won't get rid of it.
No, we want to tax drivers based on the number of miles they drive because those who drive the most should pay for the roads they drive on.

Though I agree the black box idea is stupid & unnecessary; simply tax drivers based on their odometer reading when renewing their tags each year.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#97 Dec 10, 2013
kuda wrote:
There are good reasons that Romney/Ryan lost the election, including the "Ryan budget." Not surprisingly, Ryan now calls for destroying the government by selling off its assets and for defaulting on its promise to retired federal employees, robbing Peter to pay Paul (Ryan). Ryan represents the interests of the wealthiest .01% demanding a transition to oligarchy. Everybody knows (except, of course, those who blindly believe that trashing government and its word would be good for them personally).
Ryan represents.......What do you think the Obama's, Clintons, Pelosi, Reid, Buffett, Kaiser, Gates and of course Kerry are........paupers. The constitution forbids your false claims of making a Oligarchy. To date, Obama is the only one actively challenging the constitution.
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#98 Dec 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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No, we want to tax drivers based on the number of miles they drive because those who drive the most should pay for the roads they drive on.
Though I agree the black box idea is stupid & unnecessary; simply tax drivers based on their odometer reading when renewing their tags each year.
Drivers already pay through income and gas taxes for roads. The drivers who drive the most already pay the most. If they want to rationalize this with more fuel efficient cars that also means lighter smaller cars mean less wear on the roads. Those who think they aren't wearing the roads by staying home still do it with every delivery they receive or bus they take which are much heavier vehicles. What the heck are they doing with revenues they collect every year.

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#99 Dec 10, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
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Drivers already pay through income and gas taxes for roads. The drivers who drive the most already pay the most. If they want to rationalize this with more fuel efficient cars that also means lighter smaller cars mean less wear on the roads. Those who think they aren't wearing the roads by staying home still do it with every delivery they receive or bus they take which are much heavier vehicles. What the heck are they doing with revenues they collect every year.
You know, of course, that corbett has raided the tolls collected on the turnpike, to pay other unrelated PA bills?
CZars_R_US

Orlando, FL

#100 Dec 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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No, we want to tax drivers based on the number of miles they drive because those who drive the most should pay for the roads they drive on.
Though I agree the black box idea is stupid & unnecessary; simply tax drivers based on their odometer reading when renewing their tags each year.
If we tax folks on usage; all the deadbeats would not be able to pay their taxes. See how it works?? Can't have it both ways can you?
CZars_R_US

Orlando, FL

#101 Dec 10, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
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Drivers already pay through income and gas taxes for roads. The drivers who drive the most already pay the most. If they want to rationalize this with more fuel efficient cars that also means lighter smaller cars mean less wear on the roads. Those who think they aren't wearing the roads by staying home still do it with every delivery they receive or bus they take which are much heavier vehicles. What the heck are they doing with revenues they collect every year.
Yeah quit shopping at walmart; all their trucks wear the heck out of the roads. And all the profits go to china!!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#102 Dec 10, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
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Drivers already pay through income and gas taxes for roads. The drivers who drive the most already pay the most. If they want to rationalize this with more fuel efficient cars that also means lighter smaller cars mean less wear on the roads. Those who think they aren't wearing the roads by staying home still do it with every delivery they receive or bus they take which are much heavier vehicles. What the heck are they doing with revenues they collect every year.
I was simply explaining why a mileage tax is valid. One way or another we ALL pay.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#103 Dec 10, 2013
CZars_R_US wrote:
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If we tax folks on usage; all the deadbeats would not be able to pay their taxes. See how it works?? Can't have it both ways can you?
If they don't pay their use tax, then they don't get to drive.
CZars_R_US

Orlando, FL

#104 Dec 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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If they don't pay their use tax, then they don't get to drive.
What about the ones that use
Section 8 Housing
Food Stamps
Medicaid
Un-Employment
Farm Subsidies
Schools
plus most other socail programs
ETC ETC

I don't use any of these, does that mean I don't have to pay taxes on them.
I do agree that this is how it was meant to be on the federal level. National defense and infrastructure etc Federal and all social type programs should be at the individual state level only.
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#105 Dec 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I was simply explaining why a mileage tax is valid. One way or another we ALL pay.
We do all pay. What are they doing with that money. I could even accept a SMALL gas tax. I can't believe if they were to increase or impose national gas of 1 cent per gallon you mean to tell me that couldn't help fund at least one of their desired projects. But where is the existing money going?

A lot of maintenance people or engineering types prefer but are not required to replace something rather than repair it. I've known people including management who love to wait for a big capital budget/funding from the government or corporate. This is a defect in management thinking-new is the only option. Even a new road must be maintained. They must learn to work with what they have.

Just like health care rather than make small changes and address cost issues the DOT and/or their "PROfessional" politician friends want to make a make work project or a mountain out of a mole hill.
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#106 Dec 10, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
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You know, of course, that corbett has raided the tolls collected on the turnpike, to pay other unrelated PA bills?
Pennsylvania Governor Tom Corbett is a dreadful but perfect example of a "PROfessional" politician shoping for votes. This RepubliCANT pushed for the largest gas tax in the US.

http://www.newsmax.com/Freind/pennsylvania-go...

And yes funky accounting at the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation.

http://articles.philly.com/2012-09-26/busines...

But a "PROfessional" politician is in charge now and the same "PRO" spent a nice chunk of time in the Pennsylvania Attorney Generals Office prior. Business as usual in "PROfessional" politician world. And that includes tax, spend, give and collect favors.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#107 Dec 10, 2013
CZars_R_US wrote:
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Yeah quit shopping at walmart; all their trucks wear the heck out of the roads. And all the profits go to china!!
Uh, do you know that Bentonville isn't in China.......and there isn't 57 states.
CZars_R_US

Orlando, FL

#108 Dec 10, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Uh, do you know that Bentonville isn't in China.......and there isn't 57 states.
You got me there, the manufactoring is in China not profits.
Now,, the president said there were 57 states and what he says has to be true right??

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#109 Dec 13, 2013
CZars_R_US wrote:
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Yeah quit shopping at walmart; all their trucks wear the heck out of the roads. And all the profits go to china!!
...Amen.....
Cat74

Bolingbrook, IL

#111 Dec 14, 2013
OMG, WalMart is an American company. Where do you expect them to get their merchandise? Americans can't manufacture anything. Their workers gave up working for welfare 40 years ago. Even if we opened factories we haven't educated a work force enough to fill them. Our lower class workers can barely get to the mailbox for their Government checks.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#112 Dec 15, 2013
see the light wrote:
Democrats in Wa. can raise taxes and help the Banks, but won't help the senior citizens they steal from.
Another cheap snipe....That attitude is why the tours are as close as republicans will get to the White House......Got any facts?.....

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#116 Dec 16, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
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$85 billion a month to Wall Street and fatcat bankers, there's your facts sonny boy.
JOB OPENINGS AT A FIVE-YEAR HIGH.....So are resignations which also point to a healthier job market.....AP(12-11-13)......

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#117 Dec 16, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
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ever hear of a gas tax , dummy?
My point exactly.

The gas tax is a perfect example of a use tax.

So is a mileage tax.

So are toll roads.

All 3 should be used in combination to finance our roads.

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#118 Dec 16, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> JOB OPENINGS AT A FIVE-YEAR HIGH.....So are resignations which also point to a healthier job market.....AP(12-11-13)......
47 million still on food stamps, nothing has changed except the lies from the left..........

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#119 Dec 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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My point exactly.
The gas tax is a perfect example of a use tax.
So is a mileage tax.
So are toll roads.
All 3 should be used in combination to finance our roads.
stop sending gas taxes to Washington, they don't maintain or build roads, the states do. don't you get around on your grandpa's Unicycle?

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