Abortion fight for raped girl, 9 (Brazil...

There are 56 comments on the The Toronto Star story from Jun 13, 2010, titled Abortion fight for raped girl, 9 (Brazil.... In it, The Toronto Star reports that:

The little girl from northeastern Brazil was only 9 when she found herself pregnant last year and at the centre of a debate that continues to rock her nation.

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“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#1 Jun 13, 2010
I hope the little girl will heal both mentally and spiritually.. As it seems the catholic church has turned it collective back on a child... again....

“Women are people, not objects.”

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#2 Jun 13, 2010
There's something mentally wrong with someone that believes performing an abortion to save someone's life is a greater crime than rape-especially when the recipient of both is just a child. That attitude smacks of misogyny, loud and clear.

Females don't matter except as incubators to some sick fools on this planet.
Big Al

Kelseyville, CA

#3 Jun 13, 2010
There's nothing on this earth more dangerous than a man who thinks he's doing God's work. He'll cause a 9-year old to die for no good reason and think himself a saint for doing it.
Feminist

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jun 13, 2010
Big Al wrote:
There's nothing on this earth more dangerous than a man who thinks he's doing God's work. He'll cause a 9-year old to die for no good reason and think himself a saint for doing it.
The catholic church only has time for virgins. Women who have become sexually active have crossed the line, even if you are a child and raped.

The catholic church is so hung up on sex that it can only be viewed as perverse.

“CRITICAL THINKING -- try it.”

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#5 Jun 13, 2010
The RCC clearly has no moral high ground upon which to stand. This case is a perfect example.

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#6 Jun 14, 2010
kathwynn wrote:
I hope the little girl will heal both mentally and spiritually.. As it seems the catholic church has turned it collective back on a child... again....
Agreed. Clearly her life was considered irrelevant. Two "good" things came out of this, however:

a) Her freak of a step-father has been outed. Even if the church considers him worthy of keeping (bleah), at least his nastiness is out in the open, and hopefully the girl and her sister have been removed from that situation.

b) The church's lack of moral consistency and agenda has, once again, been thrust into the spotlight. Chip chip chip.
FoS

Sherborn, MA

#7 Jun 14, 2010
C Hamilton wrote:
The RCC clearly has no moral high ground upon which to stand. This case is a perfect example.
I love how quiet catholics get when something like this comes up. Even the loudest jerks know when to shut up, at least for a moment.

(3.. 2.. 1...)
pete

Arlington, MA

#8 Jun 14, 2010
Read the book, The Final Conclave. The catholic church, No birth control!!!!
Up until 1975 the church had tons of money invested in birth control!!

Cardinal Law in Ma. did not care about the boys that got raped by the priest, he just was concerned about his career, and all the schooling it took for that priest. I want to support that organization!

The Church Of Rome Is An Abomination!!!!!
RCC Truth Squad

Granger, IN

#9 Jun 14, 2010
FoS wrote:
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I love how quiet catholics get when something like this comes up. Even the loudest jerks know when to shut up, at least for a moment.
(3.. 2.. 1...)
There is always a new low for you people, it seems.

If we believe Abortion to be murder then that is what we believe.

Would you rather have your child murdered or raped? Which of these tragic circumstances are worse?

Killing the completely innocent twins is not a position that is morally supportable if you believe that Abortion is murder.

Additionally, the Church does not make laws for Brazil. It interprets what is right and wrong according to the Gospel according to the authority with which it has been given to teach on faith and morals....by Christ. If you don't agree with that, then find another church.

There is nothing inconsistent with the Church's message here. To compound one tragedy by allowing an even greater one seems to be a matter too complex for you to get your mind around.

Brazil holds elections. Brazilians also have the freedom to reject the Church and leave it. That is their right. The Church has EVERY right to speak out as it does for the sanctity of human life and it will always do so.

What is TRULY disgusting is that there are people who will use this little girl's pathetic circumstances to celebrate and promote the cause of abortion for its own sake.

A grave evil has been done to this poor child. Your answer seems to be to kill two children to "make it all better". I doubt that you will be praying for the souls of the twins. Who is "the jerk"?
You don't "get it" in the least.

What would Our Lord prefer to be done?

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#10 Jun 14, 2010
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
<quoted text>
There is always a new low for you people, it seems.
If we believe Abortion to be murder then that is what we believe.
Would you rather have your child murdered or raped? Which of these tragic circumstances are worse?
Killing the completely innocent twins is not a position that is morally supportable if you believe that Abortion is murder.
Additionally, the Church does not make laws for Brazil. It interprets what is right and wrong according to the Gospel according to the authority with which it has been given to teach on faith and morals....by Christ. If you don't agree with that, then find another church.
There is nothing inconsistent with the Church's message here. To compound one tragedy by allowing an even greater one seems to be a matter too complex for you to get your mind around.
Brazil holds elections. Brazilians also have the freedom to reject the Church and leave it. That is their right. The Church has EVERY right to speak out as it does for the sanctity of human life and it will always do so.
What is TRULY disgusting is that there are people who will use this little girl's pathetic circumstances to celebrate and promote the cause of abortion for its own sake.
A grave evil has been done to this poor child. Your answer seems to be to kill two children to "make it all better". I doubt that you will be praying for the souls of the twins. Who is "the jerk"?
You don't "get it" in the least.
What would Our Lord prefer to be done?
So you would let the little girl die from a burst uterus?

How "Christian" of you.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#11 Jun 14, 2010
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
<quoted text>
There is always a new low for you people, it seems.
If we believe Abortion to be murder then that is what we believe.
Would you rather have your child murdered or raped? Which of these tragic circumstances are worse?
Killing the completely innocent twins is not a position that is morally supportable if you believe that Abortion is murder.
Additionally, the Church does not make laws for Brazil. It interprets what is right and wrong according to the Gospel according to the authority with which it has been given to teach on faith and morals....by Christ. If you don't agree with that, then find another church.
There is nothing inconsistent with the Church's message here. To compound one tragedy by allowing an even greater one seems to be a matter too complex for you to get your mind around.
Brazil holds elections. Brazilians also have the freedom to reject the Church and leave it. That is their right. The Church has EVERY right to speak out as it does for the sanctity of human life and it will always do so.
What is TRULY disgusting is that there are people who will use this little girl's pathetic circumstances to celebrate and promote the cause of abortion for its own sake.
A grave evil has been done to this poor child. Your answer seems to be to kill two children to "make it all better". I doubt that you will be praying for the souls of the twins. Who is "the jerk"?
You don't "get it" in the least.
What would Our Lord prefer to be done?
Yes the evil was two fold. the first was the stepfathers rape and impregnating this child.. A bay really.. And then the Catholic church for turning its back on a child... As is has done and did for better than fifty years in more than one country. So why what is a nine year old girl?

Nothing to the catholic church it seems as they have seen fit to excommunicate the doctors, her mother, and herself.. All because a child had to have an abortion.. needed this life saving medical procedure.

Yea some church that is..
RCC Truth Squad

Granger, IN

#12 Jun 14, 2010
Feminist wrote:
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The catholic church only has time for virgins. Women who have become sexually active have crossed the line, even if you are a child and raped.
The catholic church is so hung up on sex that it can only be viewed as perverse.
Perhaps YOU ARE PERVERSELY HUNG UP ON SEX. How about lets get married so that sex is transformed from something as important as going bowling to what it should be...a sacred, life affirming gift to give you your spouse in a committed and loving relationship.

It is frightening the degree to which women have fallen from grace. The world is obviously suffering greatly for it. It is also frightening that men have come to see women as opportunities to gratify themselves rather than complete and wonderful human beings to be respected and exalted. Men EQUALLY share the blame in this pornographic culture.

How's your feminism working for you so far? Just wondering. Are YOU contributing to making our culture PERVERSE, dark and full of death?

Why blame the Church for protecting life? Here is some news: Life comes as a result of having sexual relations (in case you did not know). I am sure you are not that much of an idiot...but some morons think that babies come from NOT having abortions.

Further, I am sure you can imagine that the Church is not perverse about sex...it is very wise about life. You can't have one without the other. Some folks seem to separate the two. THAT IS IDIOTIC.
Consider, please, NOT being an idiot henceforth....do something good with your body and your life.

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#13 Jun 14, 2010
Yes, we women have fallen SO much from "grace".

We're actually allowed to vote now. And work. And go to college.

And if we divorce, we can actually keep the kids. They aren't our husband's property.

We don't have to wait to be spoken to in order to speak.

And when hubby goes out of town, we don't have to strap on a chastity belt.

Falling is a *wonderful* thing, really.

“CRITICAL THINKING -- try it.”

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#14 Jun 14, 2010
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
<quoted text>
There is always a new low for you people, it seems.
If we believe Abortion to be murder then that is what we believe.
Would you rather have your child murdered or raped? Which of these tragic circumstances are worse?
Easy question. If it has to be one or the other, I'd prefer raped -- at least then my child is alive.
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
Killing the completely innocent twins is not a position that is morally supportable if you believe that Abortion is murder.
So the fact that carrying twins to term (for a raped 9 y.o. no less) is of no consequence?
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
Additionally, the Church does not make laws for Brazil.
Did someone say it did?
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
It interprets what is right and wrong according to the Gospel according to the authority with which it has been given to teach on faith and morals....by Christ. If you don't agree with that, then find another church.
No problem.
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
There is nothing inconsistent with the Church's message here. To compound one tragedy by allowing an even greater one seems to be a matter too complex for you to get your mind around.
Bullsh*t. Allowing a raped, child to die would be the greater tragedy.
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
Brazil holds elections. Brazilians also have the freedom to reject the Church and leave it. That is their right. The Church has EVERY right to speak out as it does for the sanctity of human life and it will always do so.
Yes, they do. And, true to form, they excommunicate the mother and doctors but do not excommunicate the child rapist. How typically Catholic!
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
What is TRULY disgusting is that there are people who will use this little girl's pathetic circumstances to celebrate and promote the cause of abortion for its own sake.
Nonsense. What is truly disgusting is the fact that some people would allow this 9 y.o. to pay the ultimate price.
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
A grave evil has been done to this poor child. Your answer seems to be to kill two children to "make it all better".
No, it doesn't "make it better." However, it did allow the 9 y.o. to live.
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
I doubt that you will be praying for the souls of the twins.
You're right. However, if you can prove that any one of us has a "soul," I'll be sure to start praying.
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
Who is "the jerk"?
You don't "get it" in the least.
What would Our Lord prefer to be done?
If your "lord" would prefer that this little girl die, there is something very wrong with your "lord."

“CRITICAL THINKING -- try it.”

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#15 Jun 14, 2010
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
Further, I am sure you can imagine that the Church is not perverse about sex...it is very wise about life.
Yeah, protecting child rapists isn't perverse at all, is it.
<sarcasm>
RCC Truth Squad

Granger, IN

#16 Jun 14, 2010
C Hamilton wrote:
<quoted text>Easy question. If it has to be one or the other, I'd prefer raped -- at least then my child is alive.
<quoted text>So the fact that carrying twins to term (for a raped 9 y.o. no less) is of no consequence?
<quoted text>Did someone say it did?
<quoted text>No problem.
<quoted text>Bullsh*t. Allowing a raped, child to die would be the greater tragedy.
<quoted text>Yes, they do. And, true to form, they excommunicate the mother and doctors but do not excommunicate the child rapist. How typically Catholic!
<quoted text>Nonsense. What is truly disgusting is the fact that some people would allow this 9 y.o. to pay the ultimate price.
<quoted text>No, it doesn't "make it better." However, it did allow the 9 y.o. to live.
<quoted text>You're right. However, if you can prove that any one of us has a "soul," I'll be sure to start praying.
<quoted text>If your "lord" would prefer that this little girl die, there is something very wrong with your "lord."
Nothing is wrong with My Lord. Nothing at all.

This little girl WAS NOT in any danger at the time of the abortion. You are incorrect. This was NOT a life and death decision. There is more to the story than what a liberal pro-abortion Canadian "journalist"
is willing to share.

The Archbishop did the right thing in standing up for the lives of all (3) children. This story is over a year old. The facts have been twisted, emotionalized and brought out NOW to attempt to put the Church in the worst light possible at a time when the Church is under attack on several fronts.
RCC Truth Squad

Granger, IN

#17 Jun 14, 2010
LadiLulu wrote:
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So you would let the little girl die from a burst uterus?
How "Christian" of you.
Bust uterus. WHERE did you hear that? This does not jive with the actual story from a year ago.

As to how Christian I am...I probably fail the Lord more often than not. How about you?
RCC Truth Squad

Granger, IN

#18 Jun 14, 2010
C Hamilton wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, protecting child rapists isn't perverse at all, is it.
<sarcasm>
I think it is perverse. You can think what you want.
RCC Truth Squad

Granger, IN

#19 Jun 14, 2010
LadiLulu wrote:
Yes, we women have fallen SO much from "grace".
We're actually allowed to vote now. And work. And go to college.
And if we divorce, we can actually keep the kids. They aren't our husband's property.
We don't have to wait to be spoken to in order to speak.
And when hubby goes out of town, we don't have to strap on a chastity belt.
Falling is a *wonderful* thing, really.
You are too angry of a woman to be appealing. Find a nice kitty cat and enjoy life to the best of your ability.

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#20 Jun 14, 2010
RCC Truth Squad wrote:
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Nothing is wrong with My Lord. Nothing at all.
This little girl WAS NOT in any danger at the time of the abortion. You are incorrect. This was NOT a life and death decision. There is more to the story than what a liberal pro-abortion Canadian "journalist"
is willing to share.
The Archbishop did the right thing in standing up for the lives of all (3) children. This story is over a year old. The facts have been twisted, emotionalized and brought out NOW to attempt to put the Church in the worst light possible at a time when the Church is under attack on several fronts.
You are DELUSIONAL.

SIX CATHOLIC PRO-LIFE doctors said she was going to die. She was underdeveloped. Her uterus was tiny. Her uterus was already painfully swollen. It would have BURST and either killed her rendered her sterile.

Something tells me that the experts that actually examined her know more about things medical than some ARCHBISHOP.

Unbelievable.

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