Brazilian bishop who denounced abortion for 9-year-old girl ret...

The Vatican has announced the retirement of a Brazilian archbishop who caused a major stir when he declared that those involved in an abortion for a 9-year-old rape victim were excommunicated.

[Wise]

hahahahaha. hahahahahahaha! don't you just love religion?

[liner]

Remember when they asked this clown if the rapist was going to be excommunicated? He said nah, not like he killed anybody or anything.....

[TNT]

Perhaps they should have excommunicated the rapists penis from his body.

[A Christian]

The blind faithful of the RCC should be ashamed of their Church.

The pure stupidity of the RCC is beyond belief.

The rampant sex abuse cases, the false teachings and past history of the RCC should have placed it in the scrap heap of history. But the blind faithful keep present their young sons to the local priests and letting some old man in Rome along with the rest of the priesthood parade around as if they really have some special God given role. Lets not forget the making of Saints to pray to or the local Priest thinking he somehow is involved in forgiving sins at confession.“Forgive me Father for I have Sinned”–“You are Forgiven my Child go forth and sin no more”– see you next week Father but in the mean time its anything goes.

Like blind faithful sheep they continue to allow the Priesthood cult to continue.

[tom]

"Like blind faithful sheep they continue to allow the Priesthood cult to continue".

Like the blind faitheful sheep that follow Obammie around.

[tom]

faithful, I know.

[Dan]

What do you people want-do you want a public hanging? They guy got "retired"-really, he got canned.

The Brazilian bishop did something wrong and he lost his position.

Not enough, you disciples of "tolerance"?

[Wise]

Yes, not enough! Just as these guys preach intolerance to those with LOGICAL views, the world needs to start being intolerant of those who continue to preach religion and the abominations involved with it.

[Dan]

Wise wrote:

Yes, not enough! Just as these guys preach intolerance to those with LOGICAL views, the world needs to start being intolerant of those who continue to preach religion and the abominations involved with it.

Um, the guy got forced retirement. That's more than happens to politicans or corrupt businessmen. What else would 'those with LOGICAL views' insist upon?

[A Christian]

Dan wrote:

What do you people want-do you want a public hanging? They guy got "retired"-really, he got canned.
The Brazilian bishop did something wrong and he lost his position.
Not enough, you disciples of "tolerance"?

How so Dan?
This happened in Mar and this is July so he was not fired as you indicate. The article clearly says that his resignation was accepted and he was 76 years old. If he was forced to resign as you indicate why didn't it happen months ago?

The Pope was loudly silent on the issue and said nothing. His silence on the matter was a clear sign of approval.

You have amazed me in your past postings with your mumble jumble retoric where you justify the RCC. Generally the justification is simply a repeat of what the RCC & the Priesthood claims and has made up about itself for its own self serving purposes. Very few members of the RCC will read the scriptures for themselves and then take of the blinders that were placed upon them as children. What the RCC and the Priests of the RCC claim for themselves and the role of the RCC simply is not backed up by history or the scriptures.

[Dan]

A Christian wrote:

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How so Dan?
This happened in Mar and this is July so he was not fired as you indicate. The article clearly says that his resignation was accepted and he was 76 years old. If he was forced to resign as you indicate why didn't it happen months ago?
The Pope was loudly silent on the issue and said nothing. His silence on the matter was a clear sign of approval.
You have amazed me in your past postings with your mumble jumble retoric where you justify the RCC. Generally the justification is simply a repeat of what the RCC & the Priesthood claims and has made up about itself for its own self serving purposes. Very few members of the RCC will read the scriptures for themselves and then take of the blinders that were placed upon them as children. What the RCC and the Priests of the RCC claim for themselves and the role of the RCC simply is not backed up by history or the scriptures.

All of sudden he retired. Nothing at all to do with the incident w/the rape victim. Sure. Whatever you want to think.

You infer a great deal while providing no actual evidence. I'm quite sure most Catholics have read scripture. The clergy certainly has.

Sscripture doesn't support abortion, so I'm not sure how scripture enters this argument unless you are one of those protestants who continually look for a scripture-alone basis for things in a faith that doesn't rely on scripture alone. Talk about "mumble jumble", so to speak.

[Pedro]

A Christian wrote:

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How so Dan?
This happened in Mar and this is July so he was not fired as you indicate. The article clearly says that his resignation was accepted and he was 76 years old. If he was forced to resign as you indicate why didn't it happen months ago?
The Pope was loudly silent on the issue and said nothing. His silence on the matter was a clear sign of approval.
You have amazed me in your past postings with your mumble jumble retoric where you justify the RCC. Generally the justification is simply a repeat of what the RCC & the Priesthood claims and has made up about itself for its own self serving purposes. Very few members of the RCC will read the scriptures for themselves and then take of the blinders that were placed upon them as children. What the RCC and the Priests of the RCC claim for themselves and the role of the RCC simply is not backed up by history or the scriptures.

In mid-March the President (Archbishop Rino Fisichella) for the Pontifical Academy for Life denounced the action of the Archbishop from Brazil.

Here is the link from Rome:

http://www.zenit.org/article-25402...

[Wise]

Why not bash this guy on the news? "Oh, you're excommunicated because you had an abortion at 9 years old because you were raped! I'm such a great guy!"
Let's have him and people like that "excommunicated" from society! No government benefits. Not allowed to use money. Not allowed to vote.(etc.)

[A Christian]

Pedro wrote:

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In mid-March the President (Archbishop Rino Fisichella) for the Pontifical Academy for Life denounced the action of the Archbishop from Brazil.
Here is the link from Rome:
http://www.zenit.org/article-25402...

Yes, I did read that report and found that in the article the person doing the speaking did a lot of talking about the situation and expressed feelings for the little girl.

The end result remained the same - excommunicated.

There was no statement from the Pope and there was no overturning of the excommunication.

When all the expressions of sorry and sadness are waded through the result remained the same. You maintain that he denounced the actions but in reality he talked alot and in the end supported the excommunication.

The RCC stood firmly behind the excommunication. There will be no statement by anyone that the people who were excommunicated are no longer excommunicated.

[A Christian]

Dan wrote:

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All of sudden he retired. Nothing at all to do with the incident w/the rape victim. Sure. Whatever you want to think.
You infer a great deal while providing no actual evidence. I'm quite sure most Catholics have read scripture. The clergy certainly has.
Sscripture doesn't support abortion, so I'm not sure how scripture enters this argument unless you are one of those protestants who continually look for a scripture-alone basis for things in a faith that doesn't rely on scripture alone. Talk about "mumble jumble", so to speak.

Lets see, I said the following:
It happened in Mar and the RCC took no action. The Pope said nothing to change the excommunications. Nothing out of Rome and nothing changed concerning the excommunications. Like I said the silence of the Pope said a lot.

Four months later a 76 year old man retires and you tie it with a nice self made knot into him being dismissed or forced to retire. Again the RCC made no such claim or indication – only you.

How many members of the RCC read scripture I admit I do not know for sure but personal experiences tell me that not that many do. But I could be wrong.

Protestants do look to the scriptures for their faith and do reject self created self serving dogma dreamed up by the Priesthood system of the RCC for their own benefit and the self created importance of the RCC in the Christian faith. In other words the writings of the scriptures and the words of Christ are far better to hold faith in that the self serving man mad dogma put out by the Priesthood of the RCC that in most cases puts them and the RCC in a position neither supported by history or the scriptures. Papal succession along with the dogma that surrounds it is so silly and unsupported it’s almost a blind faith acceptance without scripture support.

I would point out that most Protestants whose roots came from Europe separated themselves away from the Pope and church in Rome over these very issues of the self created self important role the Pope and church in Rome created for itself with the help of the Roman Emperor Constantine and the wealth of the Roman Empire. The Christian church in Rome was neither the first or somehow the most important of the early Christian Churches. Fact is the first Church that Christ established was in the Holy Lands. From that point the Apostles went out and established other Christian Churches. Rome was not the first nor really of much importance until Constantine converted to Christianity and the Roman Empire put its wealth and power behind the State created religion.