Boxing's Final Bell

By Ed Driscoll March 23, 2008 09:31 PM The Future and its Enemies Back in the mid-'70s, Tom Wolfe quoted a sports figure who said that heavyweight boxing would die as a professional sport as soon as Muhammad ... via Ed Driscoll.com

[UK Heavy Niles]

Title should read: USA Boxing's Final HW Bell. Boxing is typical of USA sports, the bully who got beat. I have said it a 100 times, Ali could not match up to a top World HW fighters today. They are very big, smarter, and stronger. Look at the Europeans. Look at the Klitschko brothers. Look at the top 10. What HW does the USA have? Holyfield? He was just splatted on the ropes. Tyson could not beat a top 50 journey man.
Americans think they own the World. USA can't beat a rag tag group of idiots in a desert who throw rocks. The superbowl is no match for the WorldCup. Minorities run your Country. Blooming fools.

[George Washington]

---This from the country that gave us David Beckham. Brush your teeth from time to time and go see a dentist. Next time, keep your remarks to boxing. Over here, we see subtitles to understand what you're saying, you class conscious racists.

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George Washington wrote:

---This from the country that gave us David Beckham. Brush your teeth from time to time and go see a dentist. Next time, keep your remarks to boxing. Over here, we see subtitles to understand what you're saying, you class conscious racists.

Well I guess over there they choose not to see a dentist... Over here... We can't! Without spending our life savings.

[SOHC 4]

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Well I guess over there they choose not to see a dentist... Over here... We can't! Without spending our life savings.

edo ~~ Next time you need 2 C a dentist, let me RECOMMEND Dr. Lapsey on State Street, here in New Albany, Ind...Got a molar extracted for $100 ~ but that was 20 months ago.
... Please educate me!..My favorite dark beers [draft] are:(1) Newcastle Brown Ale,(2) Michelob AmberBock,(3) St. Pauli Girl,(4) Beck's, and (bottled) Negra Modelo...You're the beer expert, so could you advise me as to the most delicious DARK, preferably DRAFT beers are to be found in the Louisville, Ky. area?

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edo ~~ Next time you need 2 C a dentist, let me RECOMMEND Dr. Lapsey on State Street, here in New Albany, Ind...Got a molar extracted for $100 ~ but that was 20 months ago.
... Please educate me!..My favorite dark beers [draft] are:(1) Newcastle Brown Ale,(2) Michelob AmberBock,(3) St. Pauli Girl,(4) Beck's, and (bottled) Negra Modelo...You're the beer expert, so could you advise me as to the most delicious DARK, preferably DRAFT beers are to be found in the Louisville, Ky. area?

MY MAN!!! You got my mouth watering. I see you know your beer!!! Too excited!!! I've actually mooved to bowling green ky, and bowling green micro brewery has the most amazin dark beer i've ever had. I will say that it is overpriced but oh my goodness theese people know what they are doing. If you ever get down to this are have their beer. I'm not easily impressed but theese guys have completelly caught me of guard. I thought that best beer was brewed in Europe, but on contrairy it is brewed right here in bg ky. I can not say enough about the quality of their beer.

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edo ~~ Next time you need 2 C a dentist, let me RECOMMEND Dr. Lapsey on State Street, here in New Albany, Ind...Got a molar extracted for $100 ~ but that was 20 months ago.
... Please educate me!..My favorite dark beers [draft] are:(1) Newcastle Brown Ale,(2) Michelob AmberBock,(3) St. Pauli Girl,(4) Beck's, and (bottled) Negra Modelo...You're the beer expert, so could you advise me as to the most delicious DARK, preferably DRAFT beers are to be found in the Louisville, Ky. area?

If you ever come down to this area it is my treat!!!

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And i know on my pic i look like a thug, but believe my i'm not... I'm a freaking social worker!!!

[SOHC 4]

** Naah, you don't look like a thug ~~ More like a COOL DUDE. I won't post an avatar photo because I look like an old, grizzled bum! Last time I was in Bowling Green,[I-65 South], I was on my way to Birmingham to see the 2007 American Open [annual Weightlifting Spectacular]. But if I come there again, I'll look you up! I would want to drink that new Bowling Green DARK draft.
... I live within walking distance of the New Albany Micro-Brewery, where I go occasionally. They make a Dark Draft called Community Dark, but It just doesn't have a decent FLAVOR. Every weekend, the place is crawling with couples and the parking lots are gorged with cars. Well, I gotta admit, they do a heck of a business.
... I gotta admit Wlad has started impressing the Boy!..Now that he's gonna fight Tony Thompson, I am impressed with Wlad, quite a bit more. Thompson is maybe a inch shorter, but a bit heavier {around 245#?} than Wlad. Wlad weighed only 238 against Ibragimov, so I hope he will EAT SOMETHING!..Tony can box AND punch, but I'm favoring Wlad in this fight. If Wlad can stop Ray Austin in 2, MAYBE he'll get Thompson, too...Ehh, it's not until July ~~ Lots of time for other fights and the Beijing Olympics will begin!

[Chicago]

It does seem the past several years that the Europeans have dominated Heavyweight Boxing. I think it is due to the Soviet Block countries building gyms. White boxers from those countries are very big and quick and have a strong work ethic as opposes to white HWs in the States as well as blacks. Sad, but true.
The Cubans dominated the inner city blacks in the game also. I think Telo Stevenson from Cuba was much better than Ali. Cuba would not allow the fight.
I predict the Europeans will takeover basketball and have the gold as the USA had the bronze as Greece was ahead.

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** Naah, you don't look like a thug ~~ More like a COOL DUDE. I won't post an avatar photo because I look like an old, grizzled bum! Last time I was in Bowling Green,[I-65 South], I was on my way to Birmingham to see the 2007 American Open [annual Weightlifting Spectacular]. But if I come there again, I'll look you up! I would want to drink that new Bowling Green DARK draft.
... I live within walking distance of the New Albany Micro-Brewery, where I go occasionally. They make a Dark Draft called Community Dark, but It just doesn't have a decent FLAVOR. Every weekend, the place is crawling with couples and the parking lots are gorged with cars. Well, I gotta admit, they do a heck of a business.
... I gotta admit Wlad has started impressing the Boy!..Now that he's gonna fight Tony Thompson, I am impressed with Wlad, quite a bit more. Thompson is maybe a inch shorter, but a bit heavier {around 245#?} than Wlad. Wlad weighed only 238 against Ibragimov, so I hope he will EAT SOMETHING!..Tony can box AND punch, but I'm favoring Wlad in this fight. If Wlad can stop Ray Austin in 2, MAYBE he'll get Thompson, too...Ehh, it's not until July ~~ Lots of time for other fights and the Beijing Olympics will begin!

Oh, so he's fighting Thompson next? I didn't know. Honestly I've never heard of the guy. He any good? you seem to be more impressed with him then some of the title holders. Trust me when I say it. Bowling green micro brewery is on to something. I know beer, and this my friend is one of the best.

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SOHC 4 wrote:

** Naah, you don't look like a thug ~~ More like a COOL DUDE. I won't post an avatar photo because I look like an old, grizzled bum! Last time I was in Bowling Green,[I-65 South], I was on my way to Birmingham to see the 2007 American Open [annual Weightlifting Spectacular]. But if I come there again, I'll look you up! I would want to drink that new Bowling Green DARK draft.
... I live within walking distance of the New Albany Micro-Brewery, where I go occasionally. They make a Dark Draft called Community Dark, but It just doesn't have a decent FLAVOR. Every weekend, the place is crawling with couples and the parking lots are gorged with cars. Well, I gotta admit, they do a heck of a business.
... I gotta admit Wlad has started impressing the Boy!..Now that he's gonna fight Tony Thompson, I am impressed with Wlad, quite a bit more. Thompson is maybe a inch shorter, but a bit heavier {around 245#?} than Wlad. Wlad weighed only 238 against Ibragimov, so I hope he will EAT SOMETHING!..Tony can box AND punch, but I'm favoring Wlad in this fight. If Wlad can stop Ray Austin in 2, MAYBE he'll get Thompson, too...Ehh, it's not until July ~~ Lots of time for other fights and the Beijing Olympics will begin!

I'm actually a pretty good power lifter my self when healthy. A lot of knee and shoulder problems

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Chicago wrote:

It does seem the past several years that the Europeans have dominated Heavyweight Boxing. I think it is due to the Soviet Block countries building gyms. White boxers from those countries are very big and quick and have a strong work ethic as opposes to white HWs in the States as well as blacks. Sad, but true.
The Cubans dominated the inner city blacks in the game also. I think Telo Stevenson from Cuba was much better than Ali. Cuba would not allow the fight.
I predict the Europeans will takeover basketball and have the gold as the USA had the bronze as Greece was ahead.

I don't see europeans winning the gold this time. This is a good US TEAM (and not a bunch of all stars that US normally sends out). But if Argentina has all of it's players (they didn't in the qualifier) they are tough to beat. Then you got spain, Italy, Serbia is always strong, Greeks, Slovenians, Germans are dangerous with Dirk and will have Chris Kaman as well. Oh and let's not forget about france.

[GOOOLATTAAAA]

it does seem like the white fighters, once they were given the tools, ie gyms, trainers,etc, they have passed the blacks in fighting. Mayweather is about all the Americans have and he is in for some battles.
Peter & Brewester are both good, but not the best. I personally like the Klitschko brothers. They bought class to the game with intelligence. I can actually understand them more than I can Atlas or Bert Sugar........

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GOOOLATTAAAA wrote:

it does seem like the white fighters, once they were given the tools, ie gyms, trainers,etc, they have passed the blacks in fighting. Mayweather is about all the Americans have and he is in for some battles.
Peter & Brewester are both good, but not the best. I personally like the Klitschko brothers. They bought class to the game with intelligence. I can actually understand them more than I can Atlas or Bert Sugar........

Golota would've been a great fighter if he was just a little smarter. Great size, power, and skill. Lack of brains however. I'd like to see him and tyson go at it without any rules. A lot of ear biting and nut punching.

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** If I was a promoter, I'd be trying to get Andy Golota to fight a Young Lion...After that 1st-round Demolition by Lamon Brewster, I believe Andy's chin is a target...ALSO, Andy's hand-speed is slower than when he fought Byrd and nearly won!
... Here's an undefeated, highly-ranked guy who COULD be had by Arreola, Rodriguez, Chapman, or Solis: Kevin Johnson [just won a U.D. over the shorter Terry Smith]...Only ONE kayo in his last 10 (?) fights.

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** If I was a promoter, I'd be trying to get Andy Golota to fight a Young Lion...After that 1st-round Demolition by Lamon Brewster, I believe Andy's chin is a target...ALSO, Andy's hand-speed is slower than when he fought Byrd and nearly won!
... Here's an undefeated, highly-ranked guy who COULD be had by Arreola, Rodriguez, Chapman, or Solis: Kevin Johnson [just won a U.D. over the shorter Terry Smith]...Only ONE kayo in his last 10 (?) fights.

Yawning... Your world beaters (only in your mind) are starting to annoy me... I've never heard of theese scrubs except from you.

[Gleasons]

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Yawning... Your world beaters (only in your mind) are starting to annoy me... I've never heard of theese scrubs except from you.

I hate to tell you but there is not an American fighter that can stand toe to toe with either Klitschko or some of the othe Europeans. Fact. Look at the shape those H.W. are in over there compared to what we have; ie flabby, slow.