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Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#22 Aug 19, 2009
Edthirty wrote:
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While I don't have an issue with honest discussion, I do have a problem with stereotypes and bigotry, which is unbalanced. Bad people come in all ethnicities and I find it difficult to accept that in the case of this thread, somehow whatever was done wrong was exacerbated because somebody who happened to be Black was inolved. I suppose I should have added this in my earlier post.
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Edthirty, your point here.---- You said "Bad people come in all ethnicities".--- Correct. However though, one must look at proportion / percentages.

And Conservative authors David Horowitz, Jared Taylor, Charles Murray, Star Parker & John McWhorter point out all of this stuff out (And with documented statistics).--- Rates for all of this stuff.--- Crime (All types / all forms of crime), illegitimate birth rates, girls from ages 12-17 having kids, kids dropping out of high school, welfare & entitlement dependency, frivolous lawsuits, laziness, insubordination, deadbeat fathers, households headed by single, unwed mothers & mothers who neglect their kids.

Jared Taylors book "Paved with good intentions" would probably be the best read which documents all of this stuff.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#23 Aug 19, 2009
Magneticpoetic.-- In regards to your previous post (Post #20).---- In your post you mention d---s. And african Americans are always talking about their d---s & about sex. And african Americans do this to try to boost their "self-esteem" because african Americans lag so TERRIBLY behind ALL other groups (Whites, Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans & Pacific Islanders) in all & every aspect of American society.

Magneticpoetic, come on, just look at how Americas jails / prisons are LOADED with african Americans. And just look at ALL of the african Americans who are on probation, not employed & not employable due to being a high school dropout &/or due to having a criminal record (And usually a very extensive criminal record at this).

Now, I want to give proper credit where credit is due & to properly acknowledge.--- african Americans do dominate in basketball, some positions in football & in R & b & hip hop. And granted, there are some "professional" african Americans.

But most african Americans cannot survive nor function on their own merits. Tragically, most african Americans need the aid/assistance of the U.S. federal, state & local gov'ts (The White, Hispanic, Asian, Native American & Pacific Islander taxpayers) for their survival. Tragically, most african Americans need the U.S. federal, state & local gov'ts for aid & for jobs.

Tragically so, most african Americans are stupid, lazy, criminal, incompetent, irresponsible, unproductive & inferior.

Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#24 Aug 19, 2009
Magneticpoetic,--- "A continuation" of my response back to your previous post (Post #21).

In regards to you wanting to see "empirical data".----

Okay, Conservative authors David Horowitz, Jared Taylor, Charles Murray, Star Parker & John McWhorter point out all of this stuff out (And with documented statistics).--- Rates for all of this stuff.--- Crime (All types / all forms of crime), illegitimate birth rates, girls from ages 12-17 having kids, kids dropping out of high school, welfare & entitlement dependency, frivolous lawsuits, laziness, insubordination, deadbeat fathers, households headed by single, unwed mothers & mothers who neglect their kids.

Jared Taylors book "Paved with good intentions" would probably be the best read which documents all of this stuff.

Furthermore, Star Parker & John McWhorter pointed out (And with documented statistics) that the breakdown of the african American "family" was occurring WAY before jobs began leaving urban / ghetto "communities".

“The King is Back!”

Since: Apr 09

San Diego,California

#25 Aug 19, 2009
Hunter wrote:
My GF cheated on me with her ex-BF b/c she still had feelings for him and he used to call her and told her he wanted her back.
She and I broke up and she got back together with him but less than a month later, she announces that she is pregnant and he immediately tells her to get an abortion and when she refuses -he stops returning her phone calls and text messages.
She has now had her baby but ever since she became pregnant -he refused to take care of her and now she lives by herself with her baby and is MISERABLE.
Before me, she exclusively date Black men and was constantly cheated on and treated like trash. They took advantage of the fact that she had serious "daddy issues" because her parents both neglected her and she came from a broken home, all of which led her to having a very low self-esteem.
She accepted the ghetto culture and found it okay to sleep around and be used for sex.
I knew the life she was heading into and tried to convince her to stay with me ... but she said she loved the other man and after years of her always being there for him -even when he was unemployed and cheating on her and using her for $$$$ and sex -she gets this?
I don't think she deserved this but I can't forgive what he did to her -the sad part is that he has 2 other babymamas and both he and my ex-GF are in their 30s.
I don't want her back but I feel sorry for her b/c I seriously doubt she will ever find a White man to take care of her and her mixed child -and of course she may never find another Black man to accept her since none of her other ex-BFs wanted to marry her -what are the chances another Black man will?
Unfortunately, I think this is all too prevalent in America nowadays.
When will women learn? What kind of life can she expect now? It breaks my heart to see her as a single mother, struggling and miserable.
Funny story,if it's REALLY true.

“The King is Back!”

Since: Apr 09

San Diego,California

#26 Aug 19, 2009
Krabi wrote:
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I think there are several reasons for this:
1) Because they want to show that they've "made it" in the modern world, and what better way to do this than by getting a white woman?
2) Because on a sub-conscious level, that is the only way that they can rid themselves of the emotional scars of being the descendents of black slaves who were, at one point, not even considered to be human by whites. Therefore, getting a white woman makes them feel somehow "equal", and that's what all of them crave, in my opinion.
3) Because it's a way of getting revenge at white males. Whenever they land a white woman, it's as if they are proudly exclaiming..."Yeah, look at me now, white man. You ain't so dad NOW, now are you? I got one of your women and there ain't nothing that you can do about it, so take THAT!"
Of course there are probably other reasons, but I believe that the above are the 3 biggest ones.
As a black man I laugh at black men who chase after white chicks!lol The black men you speak of are the ones with LOW self esteem. I love being black and I think black women are beautiful. Therefore I don't need a white woman to validate myself. I'm a nice looking guy and I've never had trouble getting the attention of cute chicks. Be that white,mexican, or asian. As a matter of fact,here in California there is no shortage of white women willing to date black men. Any black man that wants to date a white woman for revenge has some serious mental issues. People in America have ben brainwashed to belive that anything white is better. Such silly people.lol I'm not one of these self-hating black people so your list doesn't offend me because it does not apply to me.

“The King is Back!”

Since: Apr 09

San Diego,California

#27 Aug 19, 2009
Johnny wrote:
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"A continuation".--- Krabi, an elaboration in regards to your point #1.--- Most of the White women (And by FAR) who date &/or marry african American dudes are very fat, very ugly, very nasty, very disgusting & very stupid White women. Furthermore, most of these White women have low self esteem, etc..
And this is why I bring this up.--- A White women who is very fat, very ugly, very nasty, very disgusting &/or very stupid ranks / rates higher on the "social strata ladder" in America compared to an african American women.
So, an african American dude dating &/or marrying a very fat, very ugly, very nasty, very disgusting &/or very stupid White woman is a "step up" for the african American dude on Americas "social strata ladder".
That only applies to black men with low self esteem who can't appreciate the beauty of black women. Why would I date a fat,ugly white woman when I can get a black women as attractive as Beyonce? Which I have. And what about the mexican men I've seen with unattractive black women. Or white men I've seen here in California with fat mexican women and unattractive black women.I've seen this with my OWN eyes. Come on Johnny,let's be fair. I've seen men of all races with unattractive women. Don't make it seem like only black men do that. The reality is that beautiful women of ALL races mostly date men of their race,everyone knows that. When you're really attractive you don't have to date out. I for one have no trouble getting hot black chicks,so why would I go for a woman of another race that's below my standards? The black men you and Krabi speak of are a small minority.

“Behave Yourself”

Since: Jul 07

Fort Worth, Texas

#28 Aug 19, 2009
Johnny wrote:
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Edthirty, your point here.---- You said "Bad people come in all ethnicities".--- Correct. However though, one must look at proportion / percentages.
And Conservative authors David Horowitz, Jared Taylor, Charles Murray, Star Parker & John McWhorter point out all of this stuff out (And with documented statistics).--- Rates for all of this stuff.--- Crime (All types / all forms of crime), illegitimate birth rates, girls from ages 12-17 having kids, kids dropping out of high school, welfare & entitlement dependency, frivolous lawsuits, laziness, insubordination, deadbeat fathers, households headed by single, unwed mothers & mothers who neglect their kids.
Jared Taylors book "Paved with good intentions" would probably be the best read which documents all of this stuff.
OK, and Whites commit most of the white collar crimes, that have soaked the working class not only here, but around the world and has caused more grief for everyone. What does that say about Whites and the proportion or magnitude of those crimes?

“The King is Back!”

Since: Apr 09

San Diego,California

#29 Aug 19, 2009
Johnny wrote:
Magneticpoetic.-- In regards to your previous post (Post #20).---- In your post you mention d---s. And african Americans are always talking about their d---s & about sex. And african Americans do this to try to boost their "self-esteem" because african Americans lag so TERRIBLY behind ALL other groups (Whites, Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans & Pacific Islanders) in all & every aspect of American society.
Magneticpoetic, come on, just look at how Americas jails / prisons are LOADED with african Americans. And just look at ALL of the african Americans who are on probation, not employed & not employable due to being a high school dropout &/or due to having a criminal record (And usually a very extensive criminal record at this).
Now, I want to give proper credit where credit is due & to properly acknowledge.--- african Americans do dominate in basketball, some positions in football & in R & b & hip hop. And granted, there are some "professional" african Americans.
But most african Americans cannot survive nor function on their own merits. Tragically, most african Americans need the aid/assistance of the U.S. federal, state & local gov'ts (The White, Hispanic, Asian, Native American & Pacific Islander taxpayers) for their survival. Tragically, most african Americans need the U.S. federal, state & local gov'ts for aid & for jobs.
Tragically so, most african Americans are stupid, lazy, criminal, incompetent, irresponsible, unproductive & inferior.
So African Americans are inferior? So you believe some races are superior to others?lol
You said blacks are lazy,criminal and inferior. That's quite a generalization,don't you think? So I guess I could say a lot Mexicans steal cars. Or asians are terrible drivers. Puerto Ricans have too many babies. Jews are stingy with money. To generalize a whole group of people smacks of racism. I'm sorry,that's just the way it is. All you had to say was you hate black people. That would have been much more simple and to the point.There was no need for a long post. I don't mind having an intelligent debate on race issues. I've done it many times on Topix. But when people make racist hateful remarks,like calling people stupid or inferior--I know the debate is over. And there's no need to go further. I hope one day you will have respect for all people.And see the humanity in everyone. Until then--take care.

“The King is Back!”

Since: Apr 09

San Diego,California

#30 Aug 19, 2009
Edthirty wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, and Whites commit most of the white collar crimes, that have soaked the working class not only here, but around the world and has caused more grief for everyone. What does that say about Whites and the proportion or magnitude of those crimes?
He said black people are lazy,stupid,criminal and inferior. That tells you what he's all about. I've battled enough bigots on Topix--I've had enough! You can debate him if you want. I'm not in the mood for this bull$hit!

“Why are We here?”

Since: Apr 09

Tobacco Road

#32 Aug 20, 2009
Edthirty wrote:
Amazing, when a thread such as this one is created it's never long before categorizations, stereotypes and bigotry make their appearances. I'll say one thing about those who choose to spread their unbalanced thinking and attitudes-I admire those who are at least open about it. Makes life easier for all involved...
Fair enuff, "Ed", but are telling us that there is not at least a hint of truth in many stereotypes? I just find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that stereotypes of people just sprang up out of nowhere for no good reason.

“Why are We here?”

Since: Apr 09

Tobacco Road

#33 Aug 20, 2009
seek wrote:
He is no man at all..
?????

“Why are We here?”

Since: Apr 09

Tobacco Road

#34 Aug 20, 2009
Magneticpoetic wrote:
I think some of you guys would be better off just admitting the dick envy.
I like how you attempt to perfume it with psychobabble and psuedo-intellectual musings abour race/class and social stratafication.
Just come out and express those deep seeded psychological feelings of sexual inferiority that you are so fruitlessly trying to mask.
"Black men have big dicks, but they are stupid, classess, ghetto, murderers, thugs, etc..."
"The women that date black men are mostly just stupid, fat, nasty, blah blah blah"
Lets see some empirical data that substantiates some of these ideas of yours.
Get out of your feelings.
Gee, you sound like a man who is really packing down there, lol. What kind of empirical data do you want?

“Why are We here?”

Since: Apr 09

Tobacco Road

#35 Aug 20, 2009
KING JABBAR wrote:
<quoted text>As a black man I laugh at black men who chase after white chicks!lol The black men you speak of are the ones with LOW self esteem. I love being black and I think black women are beautiful. Therefore I don't need a white woman to validate myself. I'm a nice looking guy and I've never had trouble getting the attention of cute chicks. Be that white,mexican, or asian. As a matter of fact,here in California there is no shortage of white women willing to date black men. Any black man that wants to date a white woman for revenge has some serious mental issues. People in America have ben brainwashed to belive that anything white is better. Such silly people.lol I'm not one of these self-hating black people so your list doesn't offend me because it does not apply to me.
Now you sound like a (black) man who is worthy of respect. It would be a better world if there were more men like you.

“Behave Yourself”

Since: Jul 07

Fort Worth, Texas

#36 Aug 20, 2009
Krabi wrote:
<quoted text>
Fair enuff, "Ed", but are telling us that there is not at least a hint of truth in many stereotypes? I just find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that stereotypes of people just sprang up out of nowhere for no good reason.
I should have been more explicit. Stereotyping leads to assumptions about all persons of a particular group which tends to be unfair. Yes, some stereotypes are more fact than fiction...

“Behave Yourself”

Since: Jul 07

Fort Worth, Texas

#37 Aug 20, 2009
KING JABBAR wrote:
<quoted text>He said black people are lazy,stupid,criminal and inferior. That tells you what he's all about. I've battled enough bigots on Topix--I've had enough! You can debate him if you want. I'm not in the mood for this bull$hit!
I like to remind some people that no group is squeaky-clean when it comes to crime and man's inhumanity to man. I also understand where you're coming from and I'm convinced bigotry will never end, at least not in America.

“Why are We here?”

Since: Apr 09

Tobacco Road

#38 Aug 20, 2009
Edthirty wrote:
<quoted text>
I should have been more explicit. Stereotyping leads to assumptions about all persons of a particular group which tends to be unfair. Yes, some stereotypes are more fact than fiction...
Here's one form you:

"The Irish are drunks"

I'm of Irish exraction, and I always expected that there might be an element of truth to this, as I used to find solace in drink as well, to put it mildly. And when I did travel to Ireland for the first time some years back, it became quite clear that the Irish drink beer like it's water. I could just as easily say that not ALL Irish are drunks, but I wouldn't be totally wrong to say that a lot of them are. So yes, that stereotype of the Irish is pretty close to the truth.

“Why are We here?”

Since: Apr 09

Tobacco Road

#39 Aug 20, 2009
Edthirty wrote:
<quoted text>
I like to remind some people that no group is squeaky-clean when it comes to crime and man's inhumanity to man. I also understand where you're coming from and I'm convinced bigotry will never end, at least not in America.
I don't think that it's necessarily wise to make the word "bigotry" the boogeyman word that it has become today. Afterall, "bigotry" is an integral part of human nature, as it separates "us" from "them". People, by their very nature, are clannish, and I don't see where that is going to change anytime soon.
Capbe07

Baltimore, MD

#40 Aug 20, 2009
Krabi wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's one form you:
"The Irish are drunks"
I'm of Irish exraction, and I always expected that there might be an element of truth to this, as I used to find solace in drink as well, to put it mildly. And when I did travel to Ireland for the first time some years back, it became quite clear that the Irish drink beer like it's water. I could just as easily say that not ALL Irish are drunks, but I wouldn't be totally wrong to say that a lot of them are. So yes, that stereotype of the Irish is pretty close to the truth.
But that is a part of the "culture" and ones choice if they wish to partake in that, we get so caught up in "grouping" ppl together instead of looking at the individual. I'm black and enjoy a draft every once in a while ( Special Occassions)lol. I think we look at a group of ppl and expect certain behaviors and that is where we make the mistake, in pre-judging and it's so wrong, and hurtful. Words are so powerful they can hurt or heal!!
Magneticpoetic

Newburgh, NY

#41 Aug 20, 2009
Krabi wrote:
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Gee, you sound like a man who is really packing down there, lol. What kind of empirical data do you want?
You sound like a man who really isn't. I'd be glad to see you offer some empirical data for any of the sweeping generalization that you often seem to make in your posts.

It may be beneficial to you to try and include words like "some" when stating your opinions as opposed to resorting to hyperbole to make a point.

“Behave Yourself”

Since: Jul 07

Fort Worth, Texas

#42 Aug 20, 2009
Krabi wrote:
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I don't think that it's necessarily wise to make the word "bigotry" the boogeyman word that it has become today. Afterall, "bigotry" is an integral part of human nature, as it separates "us" from "them". People, by their very nature, are clannish, and I don't see where that is going to change anytime soon.
Just because something is acceptable by a mob, doesn't make "mob justice" acceptable. Same applies to the term "bigotry," which if it maintains its true meaning, is not something with which a reasonable person would associate.

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