Is Obama Ineffective As A World Leader ?

[Palidan]

Korea and Iran have already shown their lack of respect for our new child president.
Everyone should feel real good about themselves though since we have a half black president and that is why you voted for him. Right?

[mike]

CURLY1 wrote:

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we did! Thats why we voted for Obama!

The big con game...We as in who?..
Opportunity knocked and the Dems answered the problem here is that the Dems are hell bent on pushing all their pet programs through like a run away train without a worry about the price. The reality is we did not need another Bush and from what has been presented as of late we did not need Obama. The lesser of two evils has turned out to be a mouse in wolfs clothing while being dressed as a sheep.
All that fell for it were looking for all the promises to be kept, it was beautiful prose but remains BS, most I have spoken to agree that we were conned. BTW I wrote in Mickey Mouse for pres as both choices were terrrible.

[Vance1]

quote "to expect Obama to fix everything in 4 months is just ridiculous!"

Please we dont want Him fixing anything!!!!!!!!

[don robison]

Obama is a bastard, who wants to please everyone. He went along with the garbage they were selling at his pompous school, now we all have to suffer.

[skunkbait]

If Obama gets his way, the American people are the losers.

He'll compromise our economy, our rights, our Constitution, and our national security.

Too many people voted for him because of the colour of his skin. Now his lack of virtue is showing. He is an embarassment to Kenyans, African American's, the Military, and America in general.

The terrorists, communists, NWO types, gungrabbers, and anti-constitutionalists must be so proud!

[Kyle]

mike wrote:

We made a change and now we need to make an adjustment 2010 is just around the corner that is if we are still here...The world recognizes the weakness of America at this point and is exploiting the opportunity...The rape and pillage of America has begun in 08 under the guise of change, a fist bump and a hollywood smile...Wake up America if you think this recession is bad just wait, global chaos is coming the inmates are running the asylum....

oh please, a rag tag group of simple muslims with sling shots fought America under the Bush Admimistration to a complete stand still in Iraq and Afghastian, Iran developed nuclear weapon technology, and North Korea did not just within the last 100+ days perfect their nuclear capability. Unless you're a complete idiot and believe those weaponds were recently developed.
The only people who benefited from the Bush Administration were Defense Contractors who made off with record profits and the blood of our young men and women on their money.
Alies, and others around the world were laughing at America under the clowns Bush and Chaney.

[Azjaeger]

CURLY1 wrote:

<quoted text>and to expect Obama to fix everything in 4 months is just ridiculous! It took us years to get into this mess, it will take years to get out of.
At least we have the man in office that can do it!

Seems to me things have gotten steadily worse, and Barry's only been running things for four months. North Korea, Iran, and the Taliban are all running wild. What started out as govt. loans to car companies has turned into the car companies going bankrupt, the bondholders being forced to give up their money in favor of unions, and the taxpayers losing billions for no avail. The deficit spending that Bush did that had everyone upset has been made to look like pocket change by the debt Barry's run up. And even if you voted for Barry because you wanted us out of Iraq and Gitmo closed, it doesn't look like that's going to happen either. Barry's not fixing anything, he's making everything worse.

[mike]

Kyle wrote:

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oh please, a rag tag group of simple muslims with sling shots fought America under the Bush Admimistration to a complete stand still in Iraq and Afghastian, Iran developed nuclear weapon technology, and North Korea did not just within the last 100+ days perfect their nuclear capability. Unless you're a complete idiot and believe those weaponds were recently developed.
The only people who benefited from the Bush Administration were Defense Contractors who made off with record profits and the blood of our young men and women on their money.
Alies, and others around the world were laughing at America under the clowns Bush and Chaney.

Nope, you are correct they did not develop these in 100+ days, 100+ days is all they needed to see before they decided to shove it up our azzez, BO placating to the world, all they want is their share of America and while BO is giving it away they just want to cut the line. If we keep this up we as a Nation better move to isolate our selves as we are getting bullied out of the global sandbox..

[COUSIN PAULIE]

Kyle wrote:

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oh please, a rag tag group of simple muslims with sling shots fought America under the Bush Admimistration to a complete stand still in Iraq and Afghastian, Iran developed nuclear weapon technology, and North Korea did not just within the last 100+ days perfect their nuclear capability. Unless you're a complete idiot and believe those weaponds were recently developed.
The only people who benefited from the Bush Administration were Defense Contractors who made off with record profits and the blood of our young men and women on their money.
Alies, and others around the world were laughing at America under the clowns Bush and Chaney.

Trace the development back to Clinton. he signed the papers allowing North Korea to have the technology for nuclear power if they would agree to not further their nuclear weapons program. We have troops in South Korea since the early 1950's and Clinton gets duped.

[Raptor X]

CURLY1 wrote:

<quoted text>and to expect Obama to fix everything in 4 months is just ridiculous! It took us years to get into this mess, it will take years to get out of.
At least we have the man in office that can do it!

Not hardly. So far he hasn't done a damn thing but give away money to the rich, while the working class suffer the most.

[street cleaner]

COUSIN PAULIE wrote:

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Trace the development back to Clinton. he signed the papers allowing North Korea to have the technology for nuclear power if they would agree to not further their nuclear weapons program. We have troops in South Korea since the early 1950's and Clinton gets duped.

Congratulations, You get the prize, it's to bad that's not on the front page of every newspaper in the country.

[Krabi]

Raptor X wrote:

<quoted text>Not hardly. So far he hasn't done a damn thing but give away money to the rich, while the working class suffer the most.

And that's not all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Raptor X]

Krabi wrote:

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And that's not all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

The man has lost his damn mind. And everyone wanted him in office so much. I have never seen any president contradict himself as much as he does.

[Baltstinkmore]

Is Obama Ineffective As A World Leader ?...Yes, not just around the world...how about right here. Give the pilots the day off and stop globe trotting for a minute and read some of the crap policies that your retread clinton administration is shoving down the throats of the American public. The shine is dulling on this stuttering celebrity super star president.

[Krabi]

Raptor X wrote:

<quoted text>The man has lost his damn mind. And everyone wanted him in office so much. I have never seen any president contradict himself as much as he does.

Americans are going to regret that they ever elected that clown into office. If he were just a clown then it wouldn't be quite as bad, but he is a DANGEROUS clown.

[Free Thinking American]

News Skeptic wrote:

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I have been finding in direct conversation, that people in general are uncomfortable with the current administration. They instinctively mistrust them, and do not believe they have the best interest of the US at heart. Take for example the economic crisis. It has been building for many years, people in both parties (but mostly democrat) have been making decisions, and passing laws, that hurt the "working middle class". Allot of people including myself, see Obama using the economic meltdown as an opportunity to create chaos, on a mass scale, on purpose. As people become more and more desperate, looking to government for a solution, Obama and the government agencies become more powerful. At some point the chaos, and violence will build to the point that people will beg for martial law, and Obama, along with the other elitist that are in positions of power, will be more than willing to oblige the people's will, by promptly putting us into a semi,(if not outright) police state. The government has had the technological advantage over the people for many years now. It will be next to impossible to reverse martial law once the government has justified it's use, they will have the upper hand on everything. Including food, healthcare, and housing. The government will be telling you what, how, when and where to do everything you can imagine. Including when, and if, you can legally defend yourself from a direct attack on yourself, and family. Hopefully enough people will wake up before it is too late. We should all Pray to God they do.

Such a deluded negative view of things. Some how I knew god was on your side.

[Dan from America]

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News Skeptic wrote:

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I have been finding in direct conversation, that people in general are uncomfortable with the current administration. They instinctively mistrust them, and do not believe they have the best interest of the US at heart. Take for example the economic crisis. It has been building for many years, people in both parties (but mostly democrat) have been making decisions, and passing laws, that hurt the "working middle class". Allot of people including myself, see Obama using the economic meltdown as an opportunity to create chaos, on a mass scale, on purpose. As people become more and more desperate, looking to government for a solution, Obama and the government agencies become more powerful. At some point the chaos, and violence will build to the point that people will beg for martial law, and Obama, along with the other elitist that are in positions of power, will be more than willing to oblige the people's will, by promptly putting us into a semi,(if not outright) police state. The government has had the technological advantage over the people for many years now. It will be next to impossible to reverse martial law once the government has justified it's use, they will have the upper hand on everything. Including food, healthcare, and housing. The government will be telling you what, how, when and where to do everything you can imagine. Including when, and if, you can legally defend yourself from a direct attack on yourself, and family. Hopefully enough people will wake up before it is too late. We should all Pray to God they do.

This won't happen as long as our administration isn't stopped from handing our National Sovereignty over to world authority through international agreements of which we already have thousands. Like any agreement, especially those of a "legal" nature, particular action is required to fulfill the obligation and there is NO CHOICE, without breaking the terms of the contract, but to perform under threat of penalty. A simple example would be if you and I sign a peace treaty the penalty for either one of us breaking it would be war waged by the other unless we made a new treaty.

Sovereignty is possession of the power to choose without penalty to pay for the choice. For every agreement made a bit of sovereignty is given up. Every agreement transfers power from the sovereign to the authority that has the power to enforce the terms of the contract.

Since it is not giving up sovereignty but only the transfer of sovereign power a nation can reclaim its innate power by breaking the contract. America could claim sovereignty back in regards to the thousands of international contracts that make America perform to international standards set in the contract but obviously our past and recent administrations choose to transfer our sovereign power to choose and decide to the authority that has the power to judicate and penalize for the infraction of the contract by either or all parties. As long as America keeps transferring the power of sovereignty over to international jurisdiction a contract at a time, conceivably power transferred in this way will add up to the equivalent of signing one contract that transfers all sovereign power to international authority with one signature.

[Dan from America]

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A thought to ponder here. Under the same circumstances role play and put yourself in the position of the sovereign and our government as the international authority and the exact outcome applied uncovers what Americans did and are doing to transfer their power of choice over to our government. The analogy is startling to say the least.

Every effect has a cause so the effects of the economic meltdown have a cause, you just picked one of the actors with a role to play in the big show (cause) being put on for the distraction of basically fully controlled almost brain dead Americans who THINK what they've been taught to think and no longer know how to think for themselves. Many of these actually prefer government to do their thinking for them. It's this last group the directors of the show want everyone to think like. They need that kind of faith to keep America signing contracts and making laws that transfer power. These are the ones who look to government for solutions and willingly give that power by silent consent and solid faith whenever government puts a "solution” out there. Some are desperate because they have little faith but others of strong faith firmly believe government control is the solution so there's no desperation in their actions. They support government's choices without a blink of the eye because they have strong faith government will solve all our problems eventually.

The rest of your scenario should be considered in this light. What effect(s) has/have caused Americans to even consider the conclusion you brought up as a possible outcome for America. Where is and what causes the smoke that gives rise to the fiery outcome you suggest?

Since you pray to God and believe what you think then you might pray not only that people wake up but that they DO something about what they see and that they not fear it. If by choice they see the fire that causes the smoke and deal with the fear now it can be dealt with before the time when they will have no choice but to see the fire and by then, as you suggest, a raging wild fire it will be and a lot of people will get seriously burned.

Interesting post.

[CURLY1]

mike wrote:

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The big con game...We as in who?..
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how old are you, 3?
if you had any brains you of course would know that "we" stands for the MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people that voted for President Obama. The same MILLIONS of people that stand behind the president today and support his decisions.
Too bad for you ,your party lost, but its time to stop whining! LOL~

[CURLY1]

Kyle wrote:

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oh please, a rag tag group of simple muslims with sling shots fought America under the Bush Admimistration to a complete stand still in Iraq and Afghastian, Iran developed nuclear weapon technology, and North Korea did not just within the last 100+ days perfect their nuclear capability. Unless you're a complete idiot and believe those weaponds were recently developed.
The only people who benefited from the Bush Administration were Defense Contractors who made off with record profits and the blood of our young men and women on their money.
Alies, and others around the world were laughing at America under the clowns Bush and Chaney.

Excellent post and absolutely correct!