“Virtue flourishes among equals”

Since: Dec 12

Gothenburg, Sweden

#5546 Jun 13, 2013
My name is Adam wrote:
Sapientia et Veritas,
Yes, you are confused.
Obesity is caused by an addiction. Just like liver failure is caused by alcoholism, lung cancer is caused by smoking, various illnesses caused by drug addictions, and ruined families caused by gambling addictions.
Anyways, this thread isn't about debating obesity. I may be fat, but your reading comprehension is poor. Perhaps you should go and "troll" somewhere else. Besides, it's been proven that those who verbally assault/criticize people with faults (addicts, homeless, obese, poor, etc.) are actually generally unsuccessful people in real life who are angry and choose to take out their frustration towards the world.
Your advice to me might be to lose weight - my advice to you is to grow up, and start enjoying your life, and introduce a little compassion into your existence.
I am definitely not trying to be mean. Just trying to understand the oddity of this behavior. It just seems like it is lack of self control due to some insecurity in ones life. Seriously, think about it! Or better yet look in the mirror. For me i just view food as something that gives me enough calories so i can proceed with my day. I don't make it my day. Of all the serious problems we have in the world i just think it is silly that there are people suffering from an issue that should be one of the simplest to solve -- not eating. With people dying of starvation you'd think these fat people would realize to be less greedy and save some for the rest of society.

If these people can't solve this very basic problem of just controlling ones callories then it is clear to me they do not belong on this earth. It's embarrassing really.

If you are fat then i am sorry for bringing up reality but man there is a reason why society is disgusted by it. So please for your own health just stop eating and join the rest of society.
My name is Adam

Surrey, Canada

#5547 Jun 13, 2013
Sapientia et Veritas wrote:
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I am definitely not trying to be mean. Just trying to understand the oddity of this behavior. It just seems like it is lack of self control due to some insecurity in ones life. Seriously, think about it! Or better yet look in the mirror. For me i just view food as something that gives me enough calories so i can proceed with my day. I don't make it my day. Of all the serious problems we have in the world i just think it is silly that there are people suffering from an issue that should be one of the simplest to solve -- not eating. With people dying of starvation you'd think these fat people would realize to be less greedy and save some for the rest of society.
If these people can't solve this very basic problem of just controlling ones callories then it is clear to me they do not belong on this earth. It's embarrassing really.
If you are fat then i am sorry for bringing up reality but man there is a reason why society is disgusted by it. So please for your own health just stop eating and join the rest of society.
You're clearly just out flaming people. Suggesting that people who are obese do "not belong on this earth" is ridiculous. The same case could be made for any of the other selfish things done by humans. Do you live in a house? Drive a car? Go on vacations? Drink liquor? Buy nice shoes? Buy nice clothes? Do you own a TV? Clearly you own a computer. How can you own all of that nice stuff while people are dying in the world? You are choosing to own a television and a computer instead of helping someone live, period. If you really cared, you would sell all your stuff and help a few hundred children live. Instead, those children will die of starvation.

Of course you don't present that argument. Why? Because you suffer from weight stigma. What's important to point out is that it is a condition, and you have it. You suffer from a mental illness. Check it out at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightism

"A person who is stigmatized possesses a weight that leads to a devalued social identity, and is often ascribed stereotypes or other labels denoting a perceived deviance which can lead to prejudice and discrimination. Common,“weight-based”, stereotypes are that obese persons are lazy, lack self-discipline, and have poor willpower, but also possess defects of intelligence and character."

More on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fat_bias

"Additionally, recent work around physical appearance issues, body image, and anti-fat or obesity prejudice suggests that feelings about one's own appearance may stimulate downward physical comparisons with obese individuals in order to make one feel better about their own physical appearance.[4][5]"

So according to Wikipedia, you're probably (as I mentioned before) just trying to make yourself feel better. This is sort of like how kids who are bullies are generally abused or not shown enough love at home. Maybe you didn't have a good mother, father, or family life growing up? Whatever issues you have in life, I feel sorry for you having to pick on anonymous people online who are seeking help. At least people on here are seeking help, unlike you. Perhaps you should visit a forum and seek help as well for whatever problem it is you have (clearly, many). I wish you the best in solving whatever problems you have which brought you to this point. I'll pray for you. Take care.
My name is Adam

Surrey, Canada

#5548 Jun 14, 2013
Well anyways :/

Day 3 today and feeling great. I guess it's hard to talk about this in "days". Right now it is day-to-day, but I know soon it will become week-to-week. Anyone else out there still doing optifast? Or anyone who is on maintenance and keeping the lbs off? I read back a ways and saw a few regulars on here. Marye - how are you doing? You mentioned going back on it for a second time after having huge success the first time. Any success? I imagine the second time doing optifast must be extremely hard. This really seems to me like a "one time" diet, because what gets you through the first time is the challenge of doing something you've never done before. The second time, the honeymoon is over. So I give you kudos for doing it a second time!

Adam
hgirl

San Diego, CA

#5549 Jun 14, 2013
Adam, it sounds like you have got a great attitude right out of the gate, which is half the battle. Attitude is everything. I plan to start on Monday, I am looking forward to getting on the program and doing the work. I had success with Optifast about 5 years ago, lost 80 pounds in 20 weeks, looked and felt great but slowly gained back the weight. I got off track in maintenance and found it so hard to reestablish the exercise and appropriate food intake. Not feeling energetic or good about how I look or feel, so I think now is the time to draw a line in the sand and get back to being the best me I can be. I have a hectic schedule as an ER nurse and another part time job as a triage nurse for another health care facility. I figure waiting until I have enough time is something that will never happen, so I better get going with the life I have at hand. What is that saying, "If you want to get something done, ask as busy person"? Great to chat ya up and hope to continue to get great inspiration on these boards! Have a great day!
My name is Adam

Surrey, Canada

#5550 Jun 14, 2013
hgirl wrote:
Adam, it sounds like you have got a great attitude right out of the gate, which is half the battle. Attitude is everything. I plan to start on Monday, I am looking forward to getting on the program and doing the work. I had success with Optifast about 5 years ago, lost 80 pounds in 20 weeks, looked and felt great but slowly gained back the weight. I got off track in maintenance and found it so hard to reestablish the exercise and appropriate food intake. Not feeling energetic or good about how I look or feel, so I think now is the time to draw a line in the sand and get back to being the best me I can be. I have a hectic schedule as an ER nurse and another part time job as a triage nurse for another health care facility. I figure waiting until I have enough time is something that will never happen, so I better get going with the life I have at hand. What is that saying, "If you want to get something done, ask as busy person"? Great to chat ya up and hope to continue to get great inspiration on these boards! Have a great day!
Hi there. Nice to hear from someone else who is starting this. I agree with you, the biggest challenges are most definitely the transition period, and establishing good eating patterns. It seems like when people go off Optifast, they are faced with an immense hunger and urge to eat from the body's natural mechanism after facing a food shortage. I plan to stay on a low carb diet during the transition phase for a long time to ease back into foods. My body simply doesn't handle carbs well.

I wish you the best of luck and be sure to stop in on Monday and let me know how the first day goes. Take care. Adam
My name is Adam

Surrey, Canada

#5551 Jun 15, 2013
Day 4 - Today is the day when I (jokingly) say that I am now eating 4,800 calories a day! That would be 800 calories of optifast drinks, and 4,000 calories of pure grade F belly fat! As my body kicks into ketosis I am feeling better. This is one area where people are mistaken about low calorie diets for severely obese people. Whenever someone is concerned about the low calories, I always tell them what I said above... that I am actually eating a normal amount of calories because my body is consuming fat from my body. Something to think about anyways! lol.

The only symptom I've had is muscle cramps/spasms which I understand is normal. They are going away though now. I believe it's an adjustment to the lower potassium and according to Optifast nothing to be worried about.

Take care all!
My name is Adam

Surrey, Canada

#5552 Jun 16, 2013
Day 5 - Not much to report. Hunger is way down, cravings are still there though. More mental than anything. I can tell I've lost a lot of water weight even in just a few days.

“Virtue flourishes among equals”

Since: Dec 12

Gothenburg, Sweden

#5553 Jun 16, 2013
My name is Adam wrote:
Day 5 - Not much to report. Hunger is way down, cravings are still there though. More mental than anything. I can tell I've lost a lot of water weight even in just a few days.
Hey Adam! I'm back! Just wanted to apologize to you for what i said above. Seems like you are genuinely trying to lose weight and i very much respect that. Continue to keep posting about your updates. It's very intriguing.

Cheers
determined to suceed

United States

#5554 Jun 16, 2013
Dolores wrote:
I have been on the OPTIFAST 800 for the last 4 weeks. The first 3 weeks I lost 30 pounds. Then one night I went to a party and ate alot. I gained two pounds but continued on the with Optifast. Now in my 4th week I ate a large meal again. I know I've gained. I feel myself losing motivation. I want to know, from the people who have lost a lot of weight, I need to lose 200 lbs, did you have days where you ate regular food and then went back on? What should I do? It's not that I'm hungry, I just want to eat something. Please help me.
You have to stick to the plan to get the full benifits of it. The more weight you have ti lose the fast it will come off if you stick to the plan. NO FOODS... I lost 19 1/2 lbs in my first week with exercise at curvers gym. And a total of 40 lbs in the 1st month including the 19 lbs.. lf you are not hungry why eat? Optifast is expensive so why waste money. As you can see it is working if you stick to the plan because you lost 30 lbs in 3 week. Also try the optifast bar if you really fell that you have the need to eat something so you wont detour from the plan. Be encouraged and remember you goal and why you need or want to lose weight to began with. Each day get easier.
My name is Adam

Surrey, Canada

#5555 Jun 17, 2013
Sapientia et Veritas wrote:
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Hey Adam! I'm back! Just wanted to apologize to you for what i said above. Seems like you are genuinely trying to lose weight and i very much respect that. Continue to keep posting about your updates. It's very intriguing.
Cheers
hey,

I really appreciate that, apology accepted. Thanks for the kind words of encouragement.

Adam
My name is Adam

Surrey, Canada

#5556 Jun 17, 2013
Day 6 - I was incredibly busy today. I went non-stop from the time I woke up until now. I had lots of running around to do, yet I managed to stick perfectly to the shakes. I made sure I took a shake with me when I went out in a cooler with ice. I've found the key to making this shakes taste somewhat good is drinking them ice cold.

The only ongoing issue I've had continues to be muscle cramps. Just random spasms all over my body in different places if I bend over or move in an odd way. Not much fun, as I got a bad one at the mall and had to do a quasi stretch on the bench. People were definitely looking at my like I was a bit crazy, this big fat guy trying desperately to do what probably appeared to be yoga in the middle of a crowded mall lol.

I haven't weighed myself yet, I'll be doing that Wednesday morning (every week), but I can tell I've lost a lot of weight because my pants are already fitting better. My belt has easily lost a full notch in just 6 days, which I find pretty incredible. The body is quite amazing.

Take care all! Adam
My name is Adam

Surrey, Canada

#5557 Jun 18, 2013
Day 7 - I seem to be getting stronger each day, although I am still craving some foods occasionally. I find it to be easier in the morning/afternoon, and more difficult in the evenings. I've found TV triggers me, especially with all the food ads on TV (and there's a lot of them!). Tomorrow I'll weigh in for the first time and post my weight. I started at 475# and I'll post my weight here. Take care all. Adam
My name is Adam

Surrey, Canada

#5558 Jun 20, 2013
Day 9 - Didn't get a chance to post yesterday. I was down 17.4lb in the first week which is very good. I was happy with that. I had some high sodium soup broth on Tuesday night before the weigh in and woke up feeling bloated, but my body needed that sodium. Anyways, just chugging along. Adam
Sheri

Oxnard, CA

#5559 Jun 21, 2013
My name is Adam wrote:
Day 9 - Didn't get a chance to post yesterday. I was down 17.4lb in the first week which is very good. I was happy with that. I had some high sodium soup broth on Tuesday night before the weigh in and woke up feeling bloated, but my body needed that sodium. Anyways, just chugging along. Adam
Way to go Adam!!!! 17 lbs is fantastic!!! Try to stay away from soup broth however optifast does make a soup but they tend to not let you have it until about week 4 (I forget when) Now onto week 2 for you. Have a great week!!!
Rory

West Chester, OH

#5561 Jun 25, 2013
Have been doing Optifast for 5 weeks and am down 16 pounds. The loss seems slower then I expected; have had some plateaus that will last 4 - 5 days. I am doing Couch to 5K app every other day so have been good about exercise. Am drinking between 80 - 90oz f water each day.

Am fascinated about the Wendi approach of alternating the number of shakes/day.

Any ideas?
Sheri

Oxnard, CA

#5562 Jun 25, 2013
Rory wrote:
Have been doing Optifast for 5 weeks and am down 16 pounds. The loss seems slower then I expected; have had some plateaus that will last 4 - 5 days. I am doing Couch to 5K app every other day so have been good about exercise. Am drinking between 80 - 90oz f water each day.
Am fascinated about the Wendi approach of alternating the number of shakes/day.
Any ideas?
Yes... It is an expensive program and a proven program go about it as prescribed by your doctor or clinic. Don't mess with the program.
Onward & Upward
Sheri
Marye

Boiling Springs, SC

#5563 Jun 28, 2013
Hi everyone!! I'm back!:)
It's been quite awhile since I've posted here...the forum was about dying out before so I stopped reading it.
I'm back on full-fast, after regaining some weight after meds. A good bit of the lost weight actually :(:( So it's time to get serious and get it off!!!
I'm on day 5 today, and this is the first day that I haven't cared about eating. Yaaay!!
I'm glad to see so many new posters on here, as well as some familiar ones....Hi Sheri!:)
I'm the one that posted in the past about the Wendi approach in earlier postings. It DOES work!
I'll write again later....my computer is messing up big time right now!! Boo.:(
I will put the forum in my "favorites" again.:)
Marye

Boiling Springs, SC

#5564 Jun 29, 2013
OK, I have transitioned from full-fast to a modified fast. I wanted to do the full out thing for awhile to cut my sugar and carb cravings, and they surprisingly left after 4 days on full-fast. That doesn't mean I don't think about FOOD in general, but the sugar doesn't constantly tempt me 24/7. This is a very good thing. That said, days 3 and 4 were definite bears.
Last night I had 4 shakes and one small meal. 4 oz. of fish and 2 tomatoes with 0 calorie dressing on them.
I was pretty scared that I might be up a few pounds this morning...I made sure there was no salt on the fish.
BUT....I'm happy to say that I was down 1.5 pounds this morning, making a total of 5.5 lbs. in 5 days....not too shabby!:)
I'm staying around 1000 calories per day.
Hope everyone else is doing well also.
Marye

Boiling Springs, SC

#5565 Jun 29, 2013
Adam,Rory and Determined....congratulations on your weight loss so far. You are all doing GREAT!
hgirl, how did your first week go? I know the first few weeks are the toughest!
WE CAN DO THIS!!!
Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off the goal. Think about it.
Amilie

New Zealand

#5566 Jul 4, 2013
Rhonda US wrote:
Okay I am seriously considering going on Optifast. However, I am worried about the statistics. 95% gain their weight back? Not very encouraging. Has anyone kept their weight off with this plan?
My mom did this diet twice, first time she gained the weight back but partly because my father passed and grief took over second time she did it she lost all the weight and has kept it off she looks great and is a much happier person but from what she told me it's hard at the beginning and what kept her going was the goal of fitting my dresses haha and of course her wedding dress, it's been almost 2 years now and she's kept the weight off

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