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John Rapier of Nashville on Jan 10, 2007

Today, our young people are growing up faster than ever. Smoking, drinking, druging, and sexuality to name a few. Alone with school drop-outs, younger people are faced with adult problems at an earlier age. Teen-Challenge is a 12-15 month discipleship.
Very strict on disiplining not only the troubled teen up to 17 years of age, but the troubled adult also. Broken families, sexual problems, disfunctional relationships turned around leads to GOD's Love and understanding and self-worth.

Cherokee lady of United States on Jan 22, 2007

My 24 year old son was in Teen Challenge, and he was mentally abused, ostracized for not "speaking in tongues", and also once they found out he was requesting a "real" substance abuse program, was told that he was "spitting in the face of Jesus, and now you're going to prison!" If an attorney was not hired, I am certain that they would have given probation a bad report so that he would end up in prison where they feel he needed to be "broken for Christ". They adamantly abhor any secular substance abuse counseling, or psychological counseling. I pity those that are court ordered to this "program."

Michael Kincheloe of Location hidden on Jan 23, 2007

John Rapier wrote:
Today, our young people are growing up faster than ever. Smoking, drinking, druging, and sexuality to name a few. Alone with school drop-outs, younger people are faced with adult problems at an earlier age. Teen-Challenge is a 12-15 month discipleship.
Very strict on disiplining not only the troubled teen up to 17 years of age, but the troubled adult also. Broken families, sexual problems, disfunctional relationships turned around leads to GOD's Love and understanding and self-worth.
At the Shafter and Riverside, CA Teen Challenge locations, Jesus is used more like a modern-day Sword of Damocles than a loving and understanding savior.

These two locations employ "discipline" in such a way that crosses into civil rights violation territory. The abuse that "students" are forced to endure (or leave and be put back in jail or state prison) motivated me to put together a web site:

http://www.teenchallengeexposed.com

You can pray until your tongue is dragging on the ground, but you'll never turn a pickle back into a cucumber. Never.

ChrisJohn Paraclete of United States on Jan 23, 2007

If the Rock Falls on you, you will be Crushed-Moses
If you Fall on the Rock you will be Broken-Jesus

Do not carry(force) any Vessel into the Temple.
"Soul Molesting" will make them Resent...
The 10 Commandments were replaced with 2 New.
Love (it) OUT of them, do not BEAT (it) out; this kind only comes/goes OUT with prayer and fasting.

Holy Charity in all meekness.

Cherokee lady of United States on Jan 23, 2007

When religion feels justified to harm others "in the name of Jesus" i.e. send them to prison or jail instead of referring them to a program that is a better fit (i.e. a secular substance abuse program),then religion is guilty of damaging souls. And this kind of civil rights abuse that IS taking place in some of these "faith-based" rehabs is VERY disturbing in our society... What's worse, is that I have heard that some Probation officers are CHOOSING Teen Challenge and demanding graduation OR else their "person on probation" goes to prison / jail. In other words, sign onto the "Assemblies of God" religion, walk the walk, "speak in tongues" etc....or you'll go to jail. Doesn't this smack of civil rights violations!!!??? The experience I personally experienced with my 24 yr. old son was an attempt on Teen Challenge's part to sabotage his program change. Teen Challenge blatantly told my son that he was "spitting in the face of Jesus" for even thinking about attending AA meetings....Kinda sounds like Jonestown mentality to me....Stay away from the Kool Aid!.... One of my son's roommates was Bi-polar. Teen Challenge took his meds away, saying that Jesus heals everything. Teen Challenge teaches hyper-religiosity to replace addiction. Then they tell you that you are "healed" by Jesus...If I hadn't personally experienced this nightmare myself with my son, I would have not believed that this kind of stuff actually was going on....

lindsey of Germany on Feb 5, 2007

John Rapier wrote:
Today, our young people are growing up faster than ever. Smoking, drinking, druging, and sexuality to name a few. Alone with school drop-outs, younger people are faced with adult problems at an earlier age. Teen-Challenge is a 12-15 month discipleship.
Very strict on disiplining not only the troubled teen up to 17 years of age, but the troubled adult also. Broken families, sexual problems, disfunctional relationships turned around leads to GOD's Love and understanding and self-worth.
I went 2 a teen challenge centre in the uk and left after a week! I feel i was given false info which lead me 2 give up my flat, leave my family and job, all 2 return 2 nothing. It was nothing like i expected and very religious and strict. I was told i could leave anytime i wanted but wen i tried my money was with held, i was not allowed 2 phone home and was told if i left the front gate i wld be goin in2 satans arms once more!! Also they said i couldnt have any love for my boyfriend if i left. Thank goodness i managed 2 get away. The girls there were all clones who ended up not bn able 2 think for themselves in fear of goin 2 hell. People really should get as much info as poss b4 goin and really think it through.

mrs r of Glasgow, UK on May 15, 2007

i just wondered why Michael stayed at teen challenge for a year if the teen challenge programme was such a horrifying experience? Teen challenge must be some sort of success otherwise there would not be so many organisations worldwide. It's not teen challenge, it's the power of God that IS the success!!

Truths of God BELIEVES in YOU~ on May 15, 2007

May I share this with you,?

LOL, I hope you said yes (c:

1)
Praying is awesome, praying for others and self betterment.

2) Don't be so quick to pray for your own comfort. Instead pray what ACTION you might take in order to do as God asks YOU to do with YOUR knowledge of hardships.
Our OWN discomfort is HOW we learn what others are going through~ experiences that MAKE our Faith and KNOWLEDGE larger, so that we MAY use those hard times to help Gods people. Help with ACTION .

3)
GOD ANSWERS PRAYERS BY PUTTING PEOPLE IN YOUR PATH, that are willing to take the brunt for speaking up. EVERYBODY has to be willing to implement Gods will, by putting their own comfort level to the bottom of the list.

Recognise when God places a person in your path that has been told to give you a truth. Even if it makes you uncomfortable to here it. If God does NOT lie~
~~~~then believe Gods word that prayers are answered.

4) Reading and memorizing the Bible is great, however it is NOT the only part of Gods plan.... memorizing the Bible and praying for our own comfort are a bit selfish sounding, it seems like we are ONLY out to help OURSELVES.

5) We are NEVER so perfect that God will quit sending messengers to help our own personal Journey~ Only God can call us a completed masterpiece. Therefore, leave it to God to decide YOUR hardships. He NEEDS people of all experiences to REACH all others.

6) Judge not the actions of others, even when the sin is against Gods teachings. It is NOT our job to form an opinion about anothers sin.
IT IS our JOB to bring COMFORT to those THAT have sinned, NOT take it personally and dismiss the person from there church, by making them uncofomrtable.

7) ALL have sinned, and it is a sad day when a church JUDGES the deeds of others, it shows a lack of spirit and grace that GOD gives us!

8) If we have sinned against OTHERS by passing judgement, then it is IN GODS BEST INTEREST that we reach out AND BE UNCOMFORTABLE with the admission we did WRONG~ ONLY then can a church move on and increase Gods fold~ Only THEN are we IMPLEMENTING what we read and know as truths.... Why bother reading if we are NOT acting as God mandates. If God does NOT lie and we PRAY for eternal peace and rest with Jesus and God, Then why do we try and hide the sin of gossip and JUDGING from God?

10)
Do NOT LIE to God! He KNOWS what we have done. To correct the problems we must first:
1)Admit mistakes... we may be uncomfortable in doing so, but so was the PERSON or persons you scared away from Christianity by being hypocrites.

2) MAKE apologies to the persons you dismissed as sinners. They are the people that need our support. PLUS we ourselves became sinners when we JUDGED the others. God TELLS us to UNDO our sins in order to be saved ,we must do right by all.

3) Make ammends for the crime against God, to THE sinners you dismissed. Set up programs of SUPPORT and conversation.

Many Blessings and prayers to repair damaged hearts and souls~

follower or christ of Cambridge, UK on May 24, 2007

mrs r wrote:
i just wondered why Michael stayed at teen challenge for a year if the teen challenge programme was such a horrifying experience? Teen challenge must be some sort of success otherwise there would not be so many organisations worldwide. It's not teen challenge, it's the power of God that IS the success!!
Teen challenge is a wonderful programme that offer people a haven to be able to break free from there addiction. The programme is very structured and discipined, and thats what people find horrifying not to mention the power of God within these centre.
Addicts find it very difficult coming under authority because there are used to rebellion against it. And when they are asked to be responsible they cant cope and run away, also having to face the root issue in there life that is causing them to find comfort in drugs and alcohol.i was a student for 18 months and it has totally given me a new life i would be dead without it..God bless

fiona of Glasgow, UK on May 28, 2007

Hi there all. i just wondering if i knew you, follower if Christ? I went through the programme in year 2000 and graduated in year 2001. God totally transformed my life, using Hope House as a tool to do this, and it is God that keeps me from day to day. I had absolutely no hope, but Teen Challenge offered me hope and i thank God for the ministry. I was able to face up to many issues in my life, many of them i had never been able to face up to with secular counselling, and afterwards i was able to help other girls that were in the same position that i was once in. i am now married, have to beautiful children and a personal relationship with Christ. Teen Challenge is an excellent ministry, but JESUS is better.

Jerry of Duluth, MN on Jun 7, 2007

For more on Teen Challenge, please visit- http://teenchallengecult.blogspot.com/

Truths of God BELIEVES in YOU~ on Jun 7, 2007

ALl that reach out to teens are a HUGE BLESSING~ Ket these kids know people do care (c:

ene of Elk Grove, CA on Jun 7, 2007

i went to victory outreach which is a break off from teen challenge. i had seen things there that made me not to ever step in a church again. if teen challenge is like the outreach... do not go there. they inslave your mind to worship your pastor. they tell you if you ever leave their church your gonna backslide and fall, youll never ever find a church like ours. they have caused divorces, threaten and also beat up people when they have said they will expose them. i seen over a million dollars disapear, and reapear 2 years later,pastor with new cars, big fancy houses. i know of things that will blow your mind...all i can say be warned and always, everyday pray if where your at is not of GOD, lead you out of there...you never know when the pastor will take a turn. never be comfortable..
sorry to be so negative... just things never are seen until you experiance it....
GOD BLESS all

TELL IT HOW IT IS of You dont need to know, nosey. on Jun 8, 2007

Ok, yeah.. Soya!!!!!!

Cameron of Duluth, MN on Jun 8, 2007

Eureka City Council to Look at Teen Challenge Appeal This Evening: Lamberson said his other two facilities in Arcata and Eureka operate without a state license and without medical staff and, although 80 percent of the residents are recovering from drug or alcohol abuse, the facilities are “Christian discipleships,” not “drug and alcohol programs.” Read the full articles here- http://www.eurekareporter.com/ArticleDisplay....

This is PROOF that Teen Challenge is not a treatment center!!! They are only out to CONVERT people to their religion!!!

ene of Elk Grove, CA on Jun 8, 2007

its just away to lure people in. also to keep them from going to jail. im telling you ...it looks good from the outside...but the inside.well, like i said victory outreach is a break off, these people can be dangerous.

Loz of Neath, UK on Sep 5, 2007

Hi - mixed feelings about some of the posts here - I am one of Teen Challenge Uks earlist graduates going back to the 80s and can really say that TC is a great organisation but not for every one and certaqinly the turn over of admissions I knew justifed that. Yes it did encourage a very strict and regimented view of life and didn't encourage free thought or a challenge to the leaders when you disagreed but it gave me a foundation. I'm not know a practicing evangelical and I do think for myself and work everyday with addicts as a criminal justice professional and can say hand on heart that some of the practices of the trained substance reduction programmes are as well meaning as that as TC and are as un=sefull / useless as TC. If someone wants to come off the drugs don't bitch about how they do it if its with the help of Jesus or Methadone just be grateful your son, daughter or firend isn't in a gutter with a needle in their arm or in a body bag as both friends of mine have been and so have some of those I work with.

ummm of Denver, CO on Sep 12, 2007

I am a member there...not all the churches are like that.

gary hatfield of UK on Nov 24, 2007

Cherokee lady wrote:
My 24 year old son was in Teen Challenge, and he was mentally abused, ostracized for not "speaking in tongues", and also once they found out he was requesting a "real" substance abuse program, was told that he was "spitting in the face of Jesus, and now you're going to prison!" If an attorney was not hired, I am certain that they would have given probation a bad report so that he would end up in prison where they feel he needed to be "broken for Christ". They adamantly abhor any secular substance abuse counseling, or psychological counseling. I pity those that are court ordered to this "program."
I was on smack and crack and every other drug i could get my hands on for six years. I lost my whole family ten of my friends over dosed and died. I was homeless smelly begging stealing i had been to jail five times you could say things were not going to plan !! I went into teen challenge in scotland for two years and have not looked back it was not easy but i was datermined to change my life. I am now married to the most amazing women in the world I have a good job have just bought a house and am so happy I am free today and its thanks to JESUS and teen challenge . I am soory this event happend but you need to be at rock bottom and really want to change your life these people would never do anything bad against you try again and dont stop trying till you crack it.It is possible but with JESUS to help you it will be alot easyer GARY HATFIELD ESSEX

Writing in Paradise of Honolulu, HI on Nov 25, 2007

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/arti...

You're ruining our country one church at a time.

TC Graduate of Taunton, UK on Jan 1, 2008

Let me just keep it simple and say this, TC is a like a christian boot camp that instills discipline and the love of God in to guys/girls lives who are on the brink of death. I spent almost 3 years with teen challenge and it really was a big challenge for me but If it wasnt for people like Pastor John Macey I wouldnt be here today, Im now happily married living in victory knowing that if I hadnt gone to teen challenge my life would probably not be worth living now.

steven of UK on Feb 1, 2008

the TC regime is not for all and most certainly not for the faint hearted. yet as a student (TC jargon for resident or client) almost a decade ago, I can say without hessiatation that the programe works. If you let it.
Over the last ten years, with time and maturity i have thought about the practices of TC and do feel that issues are addresed in a 'one cap fits all' approach and the structure is very different than that offered in your 'run of the mill' rehab's.
this however was made clear to me at day 1, and i knew what i was letting myself in for.
my advice for an idvidual considering going through the programe (TC jargon for entering the residential rehab)would be to have a visit first and talk to someone who knows how it works. then prepare yoursef for the 'ride' of your life.
good luck!

JoAnne of Scunthorpe, UK on Feb 6, 2008

To all who are totally against Teen Challange...think seriously about what you are saying...Christians are the only people trying to help addicts in this country...the Governments answer to it is feed them Methadone!!! What i really think needs addressed here is the fact that this charitable organisation has been led by the holy spirit to do a work in the lives of some seriously messed up people,and they and there family's should be gratefull that the help is available to them! afterall what is the alternative..getting a phone call one day to say that there son/daughter brother or sister was found dead on the street with a needle hanging out their arm!! To all those who tried Teen Challange and found that it wasn't for them, i pray that you recieved the help you so badly needed.
To the mothers who said that there children were mentaly abused and governed by strict discipline..im so sorry you feel that way,but truely in your heart do you think that maybe you were making excuses for your son not to stick with the programme because you didnt want to see your kids suffer in any way,believe me, i know first hand the pain a mother goes through at these times,its painfull to think your child is an addict,then you get caught up in there world of lies(im not doin it anymore etc)then you get to the realisation that they need help, you make excuses for them its a way of trying to protect our kids!! but honestly dont blame those that are trying to help!!! Maybe instead of complaining on a msge board via the internet all those not in favour of the Christian way of helping should get off there backsides and start picketing outside Parliment and encourage the governmoent to take action!!

Teen Challenge Exposed of Clovis, CA on Feb 6, 2008

Reporter Todd Ulrich of Action 9 News in Orlando did an expose' of an illegal telemarketing operation at Teen Challenge in Sanford, Fla. Todd and I have been communicating since October - I was asked to keep quiet about it until the story aired - and Kyle Kiernan e-mailed me on August 10 while he was still at Teen Challenge and informed me about the sweatshop conditions.

Florida's Division of Consumer Services is investigating. The fallout from this should be quite interesting.

http://www.wftv.com/news/15212201/detail.html

Set Free 14 years of hell of Leeds, UK on Feb 13, 2008

Teen Challenge is the most successful program for people with life controlling problems IN THE WORLD with a massive statistical difference from government run or secular run programs, why? because of the Jesus factor. They teach that the Bible is the power of God to change a persons life, and by applying the Word of God to my own life Iv been set free from a 14 year drug addiction that saw me in prison on numerous occasions and almost killed me. Teen challenge is the arm of God reaching out to hurting people like me. The program is hard (the hardest thing Iv ever dun) but liberating.

Lou of Minneapolis, MN on Feb 27, 2008

Has anyone been to the TC in Minneapolis, MN?

Kazza of UK on Mar 8, 2008

what a load of nonsense !!
Teen challenge has completelt transformed my life and given me hope again. I graduate in October and have got an amazing future ahead of me, instead of a future of addiction. I went to Hope house in wales and have recieved nothing but genuine love and support from every staff member. Jesus has completely transformed my life and he is the most amazing saviour and healer we could ever know. There is nothing freaky about anything that teen challenge does, it is an incredible orginisation and I thank God every day for it.

FARCE of United States on Apr 9, 2008

You know I thought Teen Challenge was the answer for my girlfriends son. Well low and behold what a farce. It's all about money and playing their game, god etc. If you don't get along "god forbid" you have a disagreement. He was a model student excelled on all levels. He had a disagreement with the dean. He was set to graduate in three weeks and they made it very difficult. He went to court for sentencing and teen challenge threw him under the bus. This is a 22 year old man who had never really been in trouble before and on a recomendation from this front for money he was sentenced to four years in prison. Mind you he was caught with some cocaine (9 gms) but had not been in trouble before and had already done 14 months in TC. Upon their negative feedback he was railroaded. This facility does not even stress addiction its the lord and money. BEWARE!!!!

FARCE of United States on Apr 9, 2008

To Lou,

MN is the facility that burned him. Also note it amazed me at how much "free" work the dean and others received at their houses contributed by students. Not organizations that needed it they got it for their own personal gain. It amazed me that alll the progress he made is for not now he is institutinalized and will never be the same and not in a good manner. Teen Challenge you will be judged by the very god you misuse!

reebie of Location hidden on Apr 27, 2008

JoAnne wrote:
To all who are totally against Teen Challange...think seriously about what you are saying...Christians are the only people trying to help addicts in this country...the Governments answer to it is feed them Methadone!!! What i really think needs addressed here is the fact that this charitable organisation has been led by the holy spirit to do a work in the lives of some seriously messed up people,and they and there family's should be gratefull that the help is available to them! afterall what is the alternative..getting a phone call one day to say that there son/daughter brother or sister was found dead on the street with a needle hanging out their arm!! To all those who tried Teen Challange and found that it wasn't for them, i pray that you recieved the help you so badly needed.
To the mothers who said that there children were mentaly abused and governed by strict discipline..im so sorry you feel that way,but truely in your heart do you think that maybe you were making excuses for your son not to stick with the programme because you didnt want to see your kids suffer in any way,believe me, i know first hand the pain a mother goes through at these times,its painfull to think your child is an addict,then you get caught up in there world of lies(im not doin it anymore etc)then you get to the realisation that they need help, you make excuses for them its a way of trying to protect our kids!! but honestly dont blame those that are trying to help!!! Maybe instead of complaining on a msge board via the internet all those not in favour of the Christian way of helping should get off there backsides and start picketing outside Parliment and encourage the governmoent to take action!!
my brother was an original teen challenge convert in 1973 or there abouts dont quote me on the exact year. Teen Challenge, as with any other program in America, is as good as its leaders. my brother was under an awsome man named kermit, who changed his life, in came a female leader who totally changed the outlook,, the dynamic, she was a control freak, manipulator threatened the kids with prison etc. i think with teen challenge the problem is probably the same as it is in the church today ,,, given the fact that it is supposed to be christ based, a leader can assume it is the only answer for reform , a christ based organization can also get caught up in pride, and feel that they are "hearing from god" therefore what they are doing is justified.there are many reforms out there some good, some bad many teen challenges across the nation, some good some bad. as with any ----loved ones need to practice tough love and keep a very watchful eye on their loved one while rehabing. and could i please add, to the believers, PLEASE dont be so spiritually superior, this just adds in the dispute, and clouds what the real issue is. dont get in gods way.

rad909 of Bicester, UK on May 9, 2008

Show me 1 other place with same sucess rate if you can im a bannana?

Cameron of Duluth, MN on May 9, 2008

For those of you who prefer to investigate Teen Challenge instead of just taking someone's word about how "wonderful" this program is, I suggest you read the following links so you can make an informed decision before you send a loved one to Teen Challenge!

-An In-Depth Series on Abuse at Teen Challenge-

Part 1: Teen Challenge: The Assemblies' Own "Kiddie Gulag"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/26/17250...

Part 2: Teen Challenge: Coercive Groups Disguised as Rehab

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/27/17193...

Part 3: Teen Challenge: A Typical Week in the "Jesus Gulag"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/28/17428...

Part 4: Teen Challenge: Life Within the "Jesus Gulag"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/29/16524...

Part 5: Teen Challenge: Possible Missionary Mill?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/30/1712/...

Part 6: Teen Challenge: The Depths of Coercion at a "God Warrior" Training Camp

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/1/164418...

Part 7: Teen Challenge: Sex Abuse and Sexual Predators

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/2/17850/...

Part 8: Teen Challenge: Court-Ordered Coercion and CYA Indemnity Contracts

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/3/17...

Part 9: Teen Challenge: Your Tax Dollars, Paying For Institutionalised Abuse

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/4/164443...

Links:

* Bill HR 5876--A Chance to Protect Kids from Abusive "Kiddie Boot Camps"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/25/11414...

* Join Teen Challenge Lawsuit! http://www.beyondbusiness.net/teenchallengesu...

Dee of Houston, TX on May 15, 2008

does anyone out there know anything about the teen challenge in new mexico?

rad909 of UK on May 20, 2008

praise the lord for people like macey.

conrad p stokengripper of UK on May 31, 2008

DOES ANYONE REALLY CARE, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.

luvlie georgie of UK on May 31, 2008

rad909 wrote:
praise the lord for people like macey.
we argree

luvlie georgie of UK on May 31, 2008

conrad p stokengripper wrote:
DOES ANYONE REALLY CARE, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.
yes i do.

Sami Aberdeen Scotland of Wembley, UK on Jun 3, 2008

JoAnne wrote:
To all who are totally against Teen Challange...think seriously about what you are saying...Christians are the only people trying to help addicts in this country...the Governments answer to it is feed them Methadone!!! What i really think needs addressed here is the fact that this charitable organisation has been led by the holy spirit to do a work in the lives of some seriously messed up people,and they and there family's should be gratefull that the help is available to them! afterall what is the alternative..getting a phone call one day to say that there son/daughter brother or sister was found dead on the street with a needle hanging out their arm!! To all those who tried Teen Challange and found that it wasn't for them, i pray that you recieved the help you so badly needed.
To the mothers who said that there children were mentaly abused and governed by strict discipline..im so sorry you feel that way,but truely in your heart do you think that maybe you were making excuses for your son not to stick with the programme because you didnt want to see your kids suffer in any way,believe me, i know first hand the pain a mother goes through at these times,its painfull to think your child is an addict,then you get caught up in there world of lies(im not doin it anymore etc)then you get to the realisation that they need help, you make excuses for them its a way of trying to protect our kids!! but honestly dont blame those that are trying to help!!! Maybe instead of complaining on a msge board via the internet all those not in favour of the Christian way of helping should get off there backsides and start picketing outside Parliment and encourage the governmoent to take action!!
To be honest you sound a lot like the people i dislike from my expierence in TC. You dont like your beliefs or views to be questioned. If people want to voice their opinions on a message board who are you to say they shouldnt. It wasnt for me but i do know TC do good, valuable work. Methadone was my saviour, for all the bad press it gets it has transformed me into a hard working, honest, "normal" member of society with my own views and opinions.

Michael Kincheloe of Location hidden on Jun 3, 2008

Sami Aberdeen Scotland wrote:
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To be honest you sound a lot like the people i dislike from my expierence in TC. You dont like your beliefs or views to be questioned. If people want to voice their opinions on a message board who are you to say they shouldnt. It wasnt for me but i do know TC do good, valuable work. Methadone was my saviour, for all the bad press it gets it has transformed me into a hard working, honest, "normal" member of society with my own views and opinions.
I've seen 25 or 30 people try to come down off of heroin or mixtures that contained heroin (speedballs), and the only two that I ever saw get clean were using methadone. Read what can happen when someone tries to kick heroin using the Teen Challenge method:

http://www.teenchallengeexposed.com/suicide.h...

current student of Ely, MN on Jul 5, 2008

Lou wrote:
Has anyone been to the TC in Minneapolis, MN?
me, i go there now.
it is truly the ARM of GOD.
the MN teen challenge is different
in the best ways...
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