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#191
Jan 10, 2012
 
John Rapier wrote:
Today, our young people are growing up faster than ever. Smoking, drinking, druging, and sexuality to name a few. Alone with school drop-outs, younger people are faced with adult problems at an earlier age. Teen-Challenge is a 12-15 month discipleship.
Very strict on disiplining not only the troubled teen up to 17 years of age, but the troubled adult also. Broken families, sexual problems, disfunctional relationships turned around leads to GOD's Love and understanding and self-worth.
We need more out reach programs like this that promote the light of God.... rather than the dark side!
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#192
Jan 16, 2012
 
mani dublin wrote:
The thing is bro, when you're rowing your own boat and fall out the boat and out of favour with TC, they pull up the ladder and say, "im ok Jack f- you". They don't encourage you to be yourself and they certainly don't encourage you to have a pair of balls. Have you had experience with TC or somewhere similar? You sound like an intelligent geezer and it would be good to hear from you again. Until then, take care and catch you later.Mani
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Tc is nothing but a vehicle believe me those left in tc do not have the time or wherewithal to help ,encourage,or keep tabs on you all they know is the crap and gossip wich gets back to them.Like i said you really do have to look out for yourself its a tough world so just get on with it my friend.
mani dublin

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#193
Feb 14, 2012
 
Teen Challenge is strictly homophobic which is a contradiction. The only way to get on there is by ball licking. The pope likes to have his ring kissed, Mr. Macey likes to have his arse kissed. To Mr. Macey his minions are so expendable. The four eyed parrot nosed geezer that's married the prude, the evidence front man, I wonder does he know that his job was offered to Brother Berney from the Broken chains from America? Swanseas t\c may have improved since wayne rapist took the reins-couldn't get much worse, while the evidence go from church to church every sunday mooching for macey crying pauper. When I was there its members were driving high performance sports cars. I've seen a true woman of God Mary Eden being treated like a dog while doing voluntary work there. For people naive enough to sponsor a student do they know that t\c already get several hundred pounds a week per student? Good old fashioned greed. Pentecostals don't believe in praying to saints etc. I've seen them praying to mr. macey or as good as, before talking gibberish passing as tongues then jumping on the ground like epileptics (slayed in the spirit).For so-called christians they act very unChristlike. Yes Jesus is our saviour and God is great but He does work in mysterious ways to allow this bunch of shysters to masquerade in His name. They give (real Christians) a bad name. Peace and love p.m (puppet master). Mani (dublin)
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<quoted text> Tc is nothing but a vehicle believe me those left in tc do not have the time or wherewithal to help ,encourage,or keep tabs on you all they know is the crap and gossip wich gets back to them.Like i said you really do have to look out for yourself its a tough world so just get on with it my friend.
Thee main one

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#194
Feb 22, 2012
 
mani dublin wrote:
Teen Challenge is strictly homophobic which is a contradiction. The only way to get on there is by ball licking. The pope likes to have his ring kissed, Mr. Macey likes to have his arse kissed. To Mr. Macey his minions are so expendable. The four eyed parrot nosed geezer that's married the prude, the evidence front man, I wonder does he know that his job was offered to Brother Berney from the Broken chains from America? Swanseas t\c may have improved since wayne rapist took the reins-couldn't get much worse, while the evidence go from church to church every sunday mooching for macey crying pauper. When I was there its members were driving high performance sports cars. I've seen a true woman of God Mary Eden being treated like a dog while doing voluntary work there. For people naive enough to sponsor a student do they know that t\c already get several hundred pounds a week per student? Good old fashioned greed. Pentecostals don't believe in praying to saints etc. I've seen them praying to mr. macey or as good as, before talking gibberish passing as tongues then jumping on the ground like epileptics (slayed in the spirit).For so-called christians they act very unChristlike. Yes Jesus is our saviour and God is great but He does work in mysterious ways to allow this bunch of shysters to masquerade in His name. They give (real Christians) a bad name. Peace and love p.m (puppet master). Mani (dublin) <quoted text>
that my friend is old hat give us something new like yer 'cash'
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#195
Feb 22, 2012
 
sounds like you have some very serious problems...you might want to seek help.....
I'll be praying for you
mani dublin

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#196
Mar 20, 2012
 
If I didn't have very serious problems I wouldn't have tried to seek help with a money grabbing cult like TC. Why don't you pray for world peace instead you do-gooder numpty (judge ye not lest ye be judged). But if you're a so-called Christian no doubt you go round judging people all day. I bet you're a self righteous holier than thou plastic world changer. Take the splinter out of your own eye, don't worry about the plank in mine. If I want your advice I'll ask for it.
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sounds like you have some very serious problems...you might want to seek help.....
I'll be praying for you
Thee main one

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#197
Mar 29, 2012
 
Dear oh dear oh dear shut the trap if you cant hack stay off the track!
mani Dublin

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#198
Apr 14, 2012
 
Thee main one wrote:
Dear oh dear oh dear shut the trap if you cant hack stay off the track!
have you got a stammer? you only need to say dear once I can read. Your screename sounds like you have a small knob. Main what? Sounds like your trying to overcompensate for something. Fancy yourself as a bit of a wordsmith don't you. No doubt you're a pie eating beer swilling plastic Christian and a dickhead to boot. Talking about race tracks, I bet you're a little jockey with a little "whip" who haunts stables and public toilets looking for George Michael to sell his arse to. I've got your number you fucking pansy. Refrain from committing homosexual acts, get on your knees and beg for forgiveness you sodomite
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#199
Apr 17, 2012
 
I am definanly not holier than thou, just a sinner saved by grace. Thank you Jesus.....
bin der also

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#201
May 17, 2012
 
mani Dublin wrote:
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have you got a stammer? you only need to say dear once I can read. Your screename sounds like you have a small knob. Main what? Sounds like your trying to overcompensate for something. Fancy yourself as a bit of a wordsmith don't you. No doubt you're a pie eating beer swilling plastic Christian and a dickhead to boot. Talking about race tracks, I bet you're a little jockey with a little "whip" who haunts stables and public toilets looking for George Michael to sell his arse to. I've got your number you fucking pansy. Refrain from committing homosexual acts, get on your knees and beg for forgiveness you sodomite
you seem to know a lot about public toilets are you a bog dweller i got your number too,weakling!everyone elses fault bar yours what are you a mouse tally ho punk with no spunk.
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#202
May 17, 2012
 
bin der also wrote:
<quoted text>you seem to know a lot about public toilets are you a bog dweller i got your number too,weakling!everyone elses fault bar yours what are you a mouse tally ho punk with no spunk.
You're right. I do frequent public toilets when visiting your mother. It's not everyone else's fault it's just welsh peoples' fault.It must be horrible to be a taffy and even worse being a gay one. Like I said, get off your knees and repent. Anyway, what are you doing on this website? Should you not be posing as a young boy trying to lure a young lad to then sodomize him. Just because the welsh kiss english arse you shouldn't take this literally. You ignoramus n lover of anus xxxx
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#203
May 21, 2012
 
mani dublin wrote:
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You're right. I do frequent public toilets when visiting your mother. It's not everyone else's fault it's just welsh peoples' fault.It must be horrible to be a taffy and even worse being a gay one. Like I said, get off your knees and repent. Anyway, what are you doing on this website? Should you not be posing as a young boy trying to lure a young lad to then sodomize him. Just because the welsh kiss english arse you shouldn't take this literally. You ignoramus n lover of anus xxxx
dear oh dear oh dear you really do need something may God Bless you. an have a nice day.
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#204
Sep 18, 2012
 
A former Teen Challenge student reports:

Anonymous said...

I'm sixteen and I just completed Lakeland, Florida, Teen Girls Teen Challenge in January. It was the worst fifteen months of my life. But I do want to say there were some really good staff there that were only there to keep me safe and are trying to get the place shut down. Anyway, the directors are terrible people. They stole one hundred dollars from my parents and forged my and my parents' signatures. They also did not allow us to mention ANYTHING to our parents about ANYHTING...the center went down after the old director left and the new directors came in. they nail the windows shut and take out the nails when the fire marshall comes. they are modeling the center now in every way after Bonifay boy's center. We have things called corrections which is when you have done something wrong (i.e., not flushing the toilet, forgetting to tell staff you are back from using the restroom, leaving a streak on the mirror after you cleaned it, having a wrinkle in your bed) Basically, you would go outside and they would make you do every kind of strenuous exercise in the book, including suicides, grape vines, worms, laps (usually fifty--which is about 7 miles), jumping jacks, push-ups, crunches, from half an hour to 5 hours, depending on the mood of the staff. the entire time they would scream at you sayin because you did this, you aren't close enough to God, you're not a Christian, etc. etc. Staff would yell constantly, mock you, say terrible things to you. The directors are a husband/wife team and the husband is notorious for looking at the girls in pedophilic ways. I am still waiting to get the call that says that he touched someone. I was neglected there, SEXUALLY ABUSED and when I came forward no one said anything. I want to strip the reputations of most of the staff off of them and see them pay for what they did to me and the other girls in the program. There has been PHYSICAL, SEXUAL, MENTAL, EMOTIONAL ABUSE IN LAKELAND TEEN CHALLENGE. They are driving these girls away from God. As is the case it seems from most of these reports, there was a lot of fundraising that went on and the money went straight to the pockets of those higher in the employee ladder (mainly, the directors/case managers/deans/the best of the directors' minionic employees). The good staff members were treated terribly. Pay was withheld from them on a consistent basis.
I just want something to be done about this. The girls in the program are my family and I will NOT continue to ignore this immoral injustice. My mouth has been forced shut for far too long. I am taking this straight to the head honchos of Teen Challenge, US, and will either a) have the directors and every other immoral, unGodly staff member fired and publically humiliated, and/or b) have the place eternally shut down.
I have a whole list of people who feel the exact way and are also getting in on the effort to take this place and these people DOWN.
This makes me sick, and they will NOT get away with this. If you want more information or have information or can help in the effort to SHUT DOWN and possibly press criminal charges against Bonifay Boys' Teen Challenge and/or Lakeland Girls' Teen Challenge.
RationalRecovery Works

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#205
Sep 27, 2012
 
JoAnne wrote:
To all who are totally against Teen Challange...think seriously about what you are saying...Christians are the only people trying to help addicts in this country.
Since you just told an outright lie, I'm sure we can all disregard the rest of your religious drivel as the lies of a TC/fundie Christard sheep as well.
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Sep 27, 2012
 

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I had a brother who went through TC, and he was raped by one of the counselors. It made my brother into a shell of a person. I decided to take revenge for my brother when I caught wind of what had happened, I found this counselor. I provided this Christard with...a life changing experience.

I used fists, feet, a belt, and a cutting board to beat this guy all over his body for over 20 minutes. I just laughed at him as he clawed his way across the kitchen floor and tried to call the police (I unplugged his demarcation jack outside his house so we'd have some "alone time.") I used a pair of handcuffs and cuffed him to a refrigerator and used his kitchen mop's handle to sodomize him for a good 15 minutes. It made me laugh heartily as he sobbed and begged for his God to come save him.[Note: God never showed up, but it wasn't because this piece of shit didn't beg hard enough, LOL!]

After I took his kid's baseball bat and bashed the base of his spine repeatedly, I took this Christian's wallet from his pocket. I examined the pictures of his children and asked him what his kids' names were. He was a little groggy so I grabbed his hand, turned on the stove burner and helped this "counselor" wake up a bit, if you know what I mean. He then told me the names of his kids.

I then told him that if he contacted the police, his kids would get the same treatment that he just got, and they'd watch it happen to each other. I also informed him that he was to never step foot inside of Teen Challenge or volunteer to work with young people ever again. He was notified that if I found out he as working with young people, his safety would be in danger.

This was 20 years ago, and listening to that Christian pedophile beg and plead for his life still brings a smile to my face. The only thing I regret is not making him deny the existence and divinity of Jesus Christ aloud.
paul

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#207
Jan 31, 2013
 
I went to the Teen Challenge programme in 1985 in South Wales and spent 12 months in the programme. You get some people that are not serious about changing and unless you have hit rock bottom and are at the end of youself, you will probally not complete the programme. It is for people who really want to change and to give their life over to God. Yeah its hard but if you really want to change it will be hard, i was abused as a child and did not have any idea what love was and certainlly knew what hate was and could easily hate people and didnt care if people hated me because i hated everyone. So when i first went to TC i thought they were all bonkers as i had never experinced Godly love, as in unconditional love, in a trully Godly way, so yeah it took me about 4 to 5 months to trust this people and believe me i am no idiot and i tested them all to see if they were genuine and they are genuine, so you people who critise,you have either never experinced anything like the life i did before i meet God so you have not got a clue what you are on about as you have never been changed inside and healed by the love of God so completely. I was in a mental hospital when i was 12 as i tied to chop someones head of with an axe, thats who screwed up i was due to the abuse i suffered. So dont turn round to me and say that Doctors etc can cure and heal all of those deep scars because they cannot, i know they cannot, only God can because he did it in my life. So dont come out with all the crap and critise when you have not got a clue what you are talking about. Only God can heal the deep emotional and mental scars left inside a human being who has been abused, only Jesus who is the creater can fix his created.
paul

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#208
Jan 31, 2013
 
RationalRecoveryWorks wrote:
I had a brother who went through TC, and he was raped by one of the counselors. It made my brother into a shell of a person. I decided to take revenge for my brother when I caught wind of what had happened, I found this counselor. I provided this Christard with...a life changing experience.
I used fists, feet, a belt, and a cutting board to beat this guy all over his body for over 20 minutes. I just laughed at him as he clawed his way across the kitchen floor and tried to call the police (I unplugged his demarcation jack outside his house so we'd have some "alone time.") I used a pair of handcuffs and cuffed him to a refrigerator and used his kitchen mop's handle to sodomize him for a good 15 minutes. It made me laugh heartily as he sobbed and begged for his God to come save him.[Note: God never showed up, but it wasn't because this piece of shit didn't beg hard enough, LOL!]
After I took his kid's baseball bat and bashed the base of his spine repeatedly, I took this Christian's wallet from his pocket. I examined the pictures of his children and asked him what his kids' names were. He was a little groggy so I grabbed his hand, turned on the stove burner and helped this "counselor" wake up a bit, if you know what I mean. He then told me the names of his kids.
I then told him that if he contacted the police, his kids would get the same treatment that he just got, and they'd watch it happen to each other. I also informed him that he was to never step foot inside of Teen Challenge or volunteer to work with young people ever again. He was notified that if I found out he as working with young people, his safety would be in danger.
This was 20 years ago, and listening to that Christian pedophile beg and plead for his life still brings a smile to my face. The only thing I regret is not making him deny the existence and divinity of Jesus Christ aloud.
I understand where you are coming from, i knocked the shit out of my abuser four times before i became a christian and used to blackmail him by saying i would go to the police if he didnt give me money. Now forgiving him completely took me years, even after i had become a christian because i thought that i had forgiven him completely, then there would be a story in the paper about some nonce and hate and anger would come to the surface of my emotions and i would literly feel like going out and really hurting someone,so i find that i need to re-forgive my abuser(who is now dead due to natural causes) when this happens, life is a journey and not always an easy one and if i am getting angry and allowing hate to consume my emotions my abuser is not bother and is not affected(hes dead) but its me that is getting damaged, so i need to ask God for his love and peace and i also need to make the choice to forgive my abuser, for my sake, not his, otherwise he will still have power over me, so f**k that for a game of soldiers, i am not going to let my past affect my future, why the f**k should i!!!! So its a daily choice and i hope that you brother is okay and is moving forward in his life, as he shouldnt let a nonce ruin his life, cos it just aint worth it.
paul

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Jan 31, 2013
 
Ho Lee Schitt wrote:
Teen challenge has no licensed qualified counselors on staff and pushes a medieval 'pray away addiction' which does not work. They are also notorious for having registered sex offenders on their staff and children have been sodomized and raped while in teen challenge. This is a dangerous cult that needs to be shut down immediately! All of the information about these abuses is available using a quick Google search. Children have dies because they have been refused medical treatment for serious conditions and basic human compassion seems to be totally lacking at teen challenge. Typical behavior from the ASSemblies of god cult!!
How do you know it dosent work, have you tried it? And yeah prayer by itself doesnt work you need to want to change and have enought of a reason to do so, my reasons were simple i didnt want to end up dead from my addiction, or end up in prison on a murder charge or be murdered myself,(as the bible says "hating and being hated" goin nowhere, so do you have a reason to change or do you just want to slag of people that have? Where did these alleged rapes etc take place cos when i was at TC in Wales in the 1980s i never saw anything like what youre saying so you are either full of s**t or it must have happened somewhere else and if it did serious actions need to be taken, and if you are full of s**t you need to grow up and get a life.
paul

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#210
Jan 31, 2013
 
cyrus de krapper wrote:
<quoted text>you should be outlawed! old bean
whats your answer then to people who been sexually abused as children? Doctors, NHS, probation officers, i have tried them all and none of them worked, only Jesus and his healing love worked for me so dont knock it until youve tried it, its easy to slag some thing of that you know nothing about and just listen to what other people say, if you are serious think about thing seriouslly instead of just slagging everthing and everyone off, old bean. lol
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Jan 31, 2013
 
FARCE wrote:
You know I thought Teen Challenge was the answer for my girlfriends son. Well low and behold what a farce. It's all about money and playing their game, god etc. If you don't get along "god forbid" you have a disagreement. He was a model student excelled on all levels. He had a disagreement with the dean. He was set to graduate in three weeks and they made it very difficult. He went to court for sentencing and teen challenge threw him under the bus. This is a 22 year old man who had never really been in trouble before and on a recomendation from this front for money he was sentenced to four years in prison. Mind you he was caught with some cocaine (9 gms) but had not been in trouble before and had already done 14 months in TC. Upon their negative feedback he was railroaded. This facility does not even stress addiction its the lord and money. BEWARE!!!!
Thats really sad to hear

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