“Only God will judge me”

Since: Dec 07

Chicago, IL

#108 May 28, 2009
I'll put myself out there, I have gained weight due to focusing more time on work, school, family, friends, and events instead of my body. One day I looked at myself and thought... is that me?!

I read books on nutrition and i go to gym 3+ times a week for an hr or more. I try watching what I eat and try to be more active with my body in general. I am losing weight and I feel closer to my ideal body. I look at over weight people and think, "come on, you can do it, dont accept defeat". When I see anorexic people I also think the same thing. Everyone falls into an unhealthy routine, its when people just allow themself to stay that way when its cause for concern.

Just my opinion

“the baby who would be king!!!!”

Since: Jan 07

fort worth

#109 May 28, 2009
Fat vs stupid wrote:
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So you would place more value on a statue than on the pure, unspoiled beauty of a real female? Oh, that's right. You're gay. Still, that's no reason to think that women's bodies aren't beautiful the way that nature intended.
i am a same gender attracted female and find the artful tatoo to be incredibly beautiful and intriguing and far from spoiling of any female's beauty as it implies the attention and intelligence needed to design and acquire an artful and meaningful tatoo

nature has no intent

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#110 May 28, 2009
I guess being gay, I can view a woman as a person instead of a plaything that needs to live up to my expectations.

And can the crap about "the way that nature intended". Nature "intended" women to have body hair, natural hair color, bleed between their legs, and have wrinkles as time goes by. What you want is a barbie doll with a visa card.
Fat vs stupid wrote:
<quoted text>
So you would place more value on a statue than on the pure, unspoiled beauty of a real female? Oh, that's right. You're gay. Still, that's no reason to think that women's bodies aren't beautiful the way that nature intended.

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#111 May 28, 2009
You made the choice that is meaningful to you, and went for it. And there is nothng wrong with that. But not everyone considers "ideal weight" to be a goqal; they have other interests or s8imply don't buy into the concept of vanity over substance.

When you see an overweight person, why do you think they are failing at anything? Should I assume that everyone with an average IQ or average education are "failing" because they aren't developing their mind to the fullest?
Jackie - A very upset fan wrote:
I'll put myself out there, I have gained weight due to focusing more time on work, school, family, friends, and events instead of my body. One day I looked at myself and thought... is that me?!
I read books on nutrition and i go to gym 3+ times a week for an hr or more. I try watching what I eat and try to be more active with my body in general. I am losing weight and I feel closer to my ideal body. I look at over weight people and think, "come on, you can do it, dont accept defeat". When I see anorexic people I also think the same thing. Everyone falls into an unhealthy routine, its when people just allow themself to stay that way when its cause for concern.
Just my opinion

“Only God will judge me”

Since: Dec 07

Chicago, IL

#112 May 28, 2009
Cpetr13 wrote:
You made the choice that is meaningful to you, and went for it. And there is nothng wrong with that. But not everyone considers "ideal weight" to be a goqal; they have other interests or s8imply don't buy into the concept of vanity over substance.
When you see an overweight person, why do you think they are failing at anything? Should I assume that everyone with an average IQ or average education are "failing" because they aren't developing their mind to the fullest?
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My ideal weight is something I would be comfortable in. society tells me for being my height I should be 120 no way in hell am i going to reach that goal,I was happiest at 150 and that is my ideal weight. Its not my vanity, i just didnt feel comfortable in my own skin when I gained weight, big or small I know I am a beautiful person inside. But I love sports and when I was at my heaviest I didnt feel comfortable running around or frustrated when I was at loss for breath so soon. thats why I knew being heavier wasnt for me not because I feel I need to be skiny to be accepted, but just for me.

When I see people that are 300 or anorexic I feel thats them accepting defeat bc its not healthy. I dont believe everyone should be a small size, i think curvier women are beautiful too, but the point is weather you are healthy or not

For example, My dad was close to 300 pnds. finally he decided to do something about it by eating a little healthier, being more active, and stop smoking. He recently was told that he has diabetes type 2. For the first time in my life, I saw this look of defeat and regret. Im sure if he knew to change his habits earlier he could have never had diebetes. even though he made an effort, it was too late. he looks weak all the time and sleeps all the time. Its sad, I never thought he was extrememly over weight, his weight was never an issue but now that he has diabetes we all wished we could have helped him be healthier.
Fat vs stupid

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#113 May 28, 2009
Cpetr13 wrote:
I guess being gay, I can view a woman as a person instead of a plaything that needs to live up to my expectations.
And can the crap about "the way that nature intended". Nature "intended" women to have body hair, natural hair color, bleed between their legs, and have wrinkles as time goes by. What you want is a barbie doll with a visa card.
<quoted text>
Well, what's wrong with that? That's exactly what I have at home (except her Visa bill comes with my name as the responsible party).
This discussion started as whether men felt that tattoos on women were a turn-on or a turn-off. I shared my opinion.'nuff said.

“the baby who would be king!!!!”

Since: Jan 07

fort worth

#114 May 28, 2009
Fat vs stupid wrote:
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Well, what's wrong with that? That's exactly what I have at home (except her Visa bill comes with my name as the responsible party).
This discussion started as whether men felt that tattoos on women were a turn-on or a turn-off. I shared my opinion.'nuff said.
the thread is titled obesity not tatooed women and men's opinion of them

“Be American Buy American”

Since: Apr 08

Big Rock Candy Mtn.

#115 May 28, 2009
scuter pie wrote:
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the thread is titled obesity not tatooed women and men's opinion of them
Wow! I sure started something, didn't I?

“I'm pro-me, not anti-you.;-)”

Since: Apr 07

Rowlett, TX

#116 May 28, 2009
Cranky wrote:
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Honey, I've perused the threads and have already accepted the fact that you think you know everything. Maybe one day you'll figure out you don't. By the way, maybe you'll get a big boil on your forehead and make fat people sick.
Cranky let it go, she's clueless. I've seen her repeatedly say "I'd just go to the doctor." Does she have any idea the number of people for whom that is not even a possibility! It may be hard for her to fathom but there are some that aren't lucky enough to be on mom and dad's insurance plan.

“I'm pro-me, not anti-you.;-)”

Since: Apr 07

Rowlett, TX

#117 May 28, 2009
Cranky wrote:
I know what you mean about hating people, girlfriend.
It's hard to stand in a grocery line with some skinny anorexic chick trying to get in front of us fatties because she only has one item (usually ex-lax) and making us feel guilty.
I also can't stand it when people cut in front of us fatties on the freeway because they think they, their jobs or their rush to the bathroom is more important than our needs.
Sometimes manic depressive people get on my nerves because some of them make threads in an effort to insult people and make themselves feel better.
Know it all, selfish and arrogant types get on my nerves and should be forcibly fed banana splits to get them out of other people's business.
Hahahaha! And I thought I was the funny one around here.LOL
Cranky

Dearborn, MI

#118 May 28, 2009
PSYCHED wrote:
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Cranky let it go, she's clueless. I've seen her repeatedly say "I'd just go to the doctor." Does she have any idea the number of people for whom that is not even a possibility! It may be hard for her to fathom but there are some that aren't lucky enough to be on mom and dad's insurance plan.
Perpetual student. Just wait till she hits the "real world" and starts woofing down pasta and ice cream after her boss gives her a bad performance review.

One day she'll be introduced to karma...and cellulite :)

“I'm not just white, I'm pasty”

Since: Sep 08

Columbia, MO

#119 May 28, 2009
Cpetr13 wrote:
Not all disorders would put it out of your control. But some make weight loss or exercise impossible. Not to mention that if you have a person who just has a slower metabolism, why should they do more work than you to keep a figure you approve of? Not everyone is motivated by vanity. They have other priorities.
One of the biggest causes of weight gain in women is pregnancy. For many, four trips to the gym and eating carrots just isnt' in the plan once they have children to care for.
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I didn't say overweight, idiot. I said obese. Which is not only unattractive (to anyone I know or have ever heard of) but also unbelievably unhealthy. Oh and most women do not become obese when they are pregnant. They gain some weight, sure, but that's not obesity.

“I'm not just white, I'm pasty”

Since: Sep 08

Columbia, MO

#120 May 28, 2009
Cpetr13 wrote:
If the choose not to control their weight--what business is it of yours?
BTW--YOU don't get to decide what is "best" for anyone else.
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Let's ask any health physician or specialist if losing weight when you are obese is best? I bet they'd agree with me that it is.

“I'm not just white, I'm pasty”

Since: Sep 08

Columbia, MO

#121 May 28, 2009
Jackie - A very upset fan wrote:
I'll put myself out there, I have gained weight due to focusing more time on work, school, family, friends, and events instead of my body. One day I looked at myself and thought... is that me?!
I read books on nutrition and i go to gym 3+ times a week for an hr or more. I try watching what I eat and try to be more active with my body in general. I am losing weight and I feel closer to my ideal body. I look at over weight people and think, "come on, you can do it, dont accept defeat". When I see anorexic people I also think the same thing. Everyone falls into an unhealthy routine, its when people just allow themself to stay that way when its cause for concern.
Just my opinion
Oh don't get me wrong I don't think that eating disorders of any kind are good or somehting to strive for. In fact I would chastise someone who is anorexic or bulemic to get help as much as someone who is obese.

“I'm not just white, I'm pasty”

Since: Sep 08

Columbia, MO

#122 May 28, 2009
PSYCHED wrote:
<quoted text>
Cranky let it go, she's clueless. I've seen her repeatedly say "I'd just go to the doctor." Does she have any idea the number of people for whom that is not even a possibility! It may be hard for her to fathom but there are some that aren't lucky enough to be on mom and dad's insurance plan.
I'm on my own insurance plan. With my own income, work two jobs, and pay all my own bills. I buy all my own food, and cook for my boyfriend sometimes too. It's not a possibility? Like hell, get a job at wal-mart or mcdonalds and they'll offer insurance.

“I'm not just white, I'm pasty”

Since: Sep 08

Columbia, MO

#123 May 28, 2009
Cranky wrote:
<quoted text>
Perpetual student. Just wait till she hits the "real world" and starts woofing down pasta and ice cream after her boss gives her a bad performance review.
One day she'll be introduced to karma...and cellulite :)
Uh I graduated, have 2 jobs and work my butt off. I cook healthy meals over the weekend and either freeze or regrigerate them for later in the week. If I have time I cook in the middle of the week to supplement that. I buy fruits and veggies for snacks. I work my butt off so I don't get bad performace reviews, and generally that is not the case. When I do get told something is wrong at work I fix it. That's right I'm a proactive person who works to fix my problems instead of just complaining about how hard life is.

Mind you, I got laid off from several jobs this past year because they either had no more money or hours cut and couldn't keep me. I found new ones, and had enough saved to maintain me while I looked. I keep my life in order. Perpetual college student my butt, I'm 21 with an associate's of science and a bachelor's in business, and I worked my way through college.

“Blessings to you and yours.”

Since: Dec 07

Washington DC

#124 May 28, 2009
Most obese people that I know have been far more successful at losing weight and dieting than you can imagine. Every time you go on a diet and really cut back on calories and lose weight you screw your metabolism and eventually your body goes into survival mode and you go off the diet and regain the weight and an extra couple pounds. The harder and more successful you are at dieting, the more weight you gain and the harder it is to lose. I challenge any 'normal' person to follow a seriously restrictive diet such as most overweight or obese people have done many times and see how it effects your energy level and how long you can keep it up before survival mode kicks in and you go off the diet.
Over a 20 year period, from the age of 13-33 I was almost always on a diet, many of them recommended by doctors, and gained and lost well over 1000 pounds over the years. I would lose 20 and regain 25, lose 40 and gain back 50, lose 60 and regain 75...slowly adding an average of 15-20 pounds each year, until I reached a high of 370 pounds. I did have a hormone problem that "helped" with my weight problem and a major family history of obesity, but I was always physically active and ate a lot less than many of my skinny friends most of the time. Finally at 33, weighting 370 pounds, diabetic, with high blood pressure, barely able to do more than walk due to constant pain because of back, and joint injuries and pain, I had gastric bypass surgery. I lost 50 pounds in the first 2 months and was able to be a lot more physically active again. Six months after surgery I had lost 140 pounds. 5 years later, my weight has been pretty stable at 170 (I am 6 foot tall). I reached a low of 150 which was too thin for me, and am currently gaining weight and up to 190 (which is very hard for me to be gaining weight, even though I am growing a baby). My husband, the kids and I are all physically active and eat pretty healthy, concentrating on eating what we need to eat first (protein, veggies, fruits, and drink our water) and then have an occasional treat. The surgery gave me a chance to change how my body worked and allowed me to overcome the damage I had done to my body over the years of starving myself into obesity.
All 'skinny' people think that all it takes is a little will power and self control to stay at a healthy weight, but unless you have experienced the ups and downs of dieting and the damage it does to your body (or lived as a fat person for a while and seen how people treat you) you really can't understand.
I think everyone should have to wear a fat suit and go out in public doing their activities with an extra 50-100 pounds on while only eating 1200-1800 calories a day for a week and see how well they do working out and sticking to their diet, while judgmental people give them dirty looks and treat them like crap. Give it a try and let me know how you do?
Blessings to you and yours.
)0(

“I'm not just white, I'm pasty”

Since: Sep 08

Columbia, MO

#125 May 28, 2009
magickmom wrote:
Most obese people that I know have been far more successful at losing weight and dieting than you can imagine. Every time you go on a diet and really cut back on calories and lose weight you screw your metabolism and eventually your body goes into survival mode and you go off the diet and regain the weight and an extra couple pounds. The harder and more successful you are at dieting, the more weight you gain and the harder it is to lose. I challenge any 'normal' person to follow a seriously restrictive diet such as most overweight or obese people have done many times and see how it effects your energy level and how long you can keep it up before survival mode kicks in and you go off the diet.
Over a 20 year period, from the age of 13-33 I was almost always on a diet, many of them recommended by doctors, and gained and lost well over 1000 pounds over the years. I would lose 20 and regain 25, lose 40 and gain back 50, lose 60 and regain 75...slowly adding an average of 15-20 pounds each year, until I reached a high of 370 pounds. I did have a hormone problem that "helped" with my weight problem and a major family history of obesity, but I was always physically active and ate a lot less than many of my skinny friends most of the time. Finally at 33, weighting 370 pounds, diabetic, with high blood pressure, barely able to do more than walk due to constant pain because of back, and joint injuries and pain, I had gastric bypass surgery. I lost 50 pounds in the first 2 months and was able to be a lot more physically active again. Six months after surgery I had lost 140 pounds. 5 years later, my weight has been pretty stable at 170 (I am 6 foot tall). I reached a low of 150 which was too thin for me, and am currently gaining weight and up to 190 (which is very hard for me to be gaining weight, even though I am growing a baby). My husband, the kids and I are all physically active and eat pretty healthy, concentrating on eating what we need to eat first (protein, veggies, fruits, and drink our water) and then have an occasional treat. The surgery gave me a chance to change how my body worked and allowed me to overcome the damage I had done to my body over the years of starving myself into obesity.
All 'skinny' people think that all it takes is a little will power and self control to stay at a healthy weight, but unless you have experienced the ups and downs of dieting and the damage it does to your body (or lived as a fat person for a while and seen how people treat you) you really can't understand.
I think everyone should have to wear a fat suit and go out in public doing their activities with an extra 50-100 pounds on while only eating 1200-1800 calories a day for a week and see how well they do working out and sticking to their diet, while judgmental people give them dirty looks and treat them like crap. Give it a try and let me know how you do?
Blessings to you and yours.
)0(
I have to say I agree with you that dieting does not work, but fixing your diet early on does. If you see yourself gaining weight the appropriate approach is to continue eating as many calories as you have been and break them up into smaller meals throughout the day, adding spicy food and home pickled items to boost your metabolism. Plus there are supplements (that aren't too expensive) to help boost metabolism in a healthy way. You'd have to do your research and figure out which ones work and which ones are bs.
Yup

Dallas, TX

#126 May 28, 2009
This is the best thing, EVER.

Go into Wal-Mart, and wait by the ice cream freezer. Oh, in less than 5 minutes, some fatty-fat too fat to walk, will drive up in a go-cart, needing help with the reach-in freezer.

Go ahead! Grab TWO buckets of Rocky Road and put them in the cart. Then you say "I know you didn't ask for two, but I sort of figured.... and besides, it's not like your cart is going to tip over, or anything".

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#127 May 29, 2009
First of all, obesity is defined by BMI, and you are not qualified to decide who is obese and who is not. Some women gain enormous amounts of weight when pregnant, others do not. Complications of pregnancy can cause even more weight gain.

BTW--there are entire websites devoted to men and women who lust after "big beautiful ladies" and "big bears".
FairSkinnedGirl wrote:
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I didn't say overweight, idiot. I said obese. Which is not only unattractive (to anyone I know or have ever heard of) but also unbelievably unhealthy. Oh and most women do not become obese when they are pregnant. They gain some weight, sure, but that's not obesity.

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