Do you consider Ebonics a language?
rio grande valley redneck

San Marcos, TX

#31 May 13, 2009
FlappittyYappity wrote:
Ebonics is a term invented by the Oakland, Ca. school board in an attempt to qualify black teachers as being bilingual.
When this Ebonics thing started, starting pay for a teacher in Ca. was $24,000/year. Bilingual teachers got an extra $5000/yr. Angry at seeing teachers who were bilingual - mostly English/Spanish - getting more than black teachers, the Oakland school board insisted that was used to be known as "jive" was, in fact, an actual second language.
It didn't work, of course, and cries of "racism!" naturally followed the decision that Ebonics was not a genuine language. One black teacher from Oakland finally gave an honest summation to the whole idea behind Ebonics:
"These Messicans is makin' alla this money, why shouldn't we?"
Ebonics is a linguistic term that has been around for decades. It's not true that AAVE is the official term. It's not official. But linguists who research language development and structure termed it Ebonics decades ago. The structure of west African languages [the conjugation of the verb "to be" in particular along with many other linguistic elements] combined with structures and vocabulary of English are at the root of its synthesis.

Since: Jun 07

WEST Columbia SC

#32 May 13, 2009
Persons using Ebonics jeopardize their future. Where they can get jobs will be limited. Valued jobs require proper diction. Why a school system would promote a class on Ebonics is a disservice to the student.
Just My Opinion

Cumming, GA

#34 May 17, 2009
Most black business owners will not allow it's use, when communicating to the public. Employees must be able to communicate with customers of all races. Semi proper use of the English language is necessary for doing business, even on a very basic level. This is not discriminatory in a bad sense, but it is using common sense discretion when interviewing a person for a job.
It does not have to be perfect English, but at least try to speak where people can understand you.

I know people who can speak perfect English, but use Ebonics out of spite, just to irritate someone they dislike. I have also known people who could speak good English, and started using Ebonics, now they can't stop even when they try, because it has been imbedded into their vocabulary. If you use it, try going 90 days without using it, and you can break the habit. Then don't start using it again, always reply in proper English with good annunciation. This may anger some of your friends, but just tell them you are trying to kick the habit of speaking improperly, so that you can make more friends outside of your circle of current relationships. You will be surprised at how many people of all races will suddenly start talking to you, because it's easier to communicate with you. Suddenly you will find yourself being judged by the "CONTENT OF YOUR CHARACTER", when people can understand who you are better. LIKE IT OR NOT, PEOPLE MAKE PERSONAL JUDGMENTS ABOUT YOU ON HOW YOU SPEAK !
KUNTRYGAL

Franklin, TN

#35 May 17, 2009
u cant help what you're taught.. if u can speak to where the person you're speakin to understands you, then its nuthin wrong wit dat!!!!
Sick of this

Beijing, China

#36 May 17, 2009
If you don't have respect for your self i don't care what fake made up language you are speaking. I just wish you raised your kids to understand and speak regular english so i don't have to pay for them to be on wellfare too.

kidritalin

“Conformity Sucks”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#37 May 17, 2009
In my opinion, a person speaking in Ebonics is likely to be less educated and is less likely to be a reliable ,productive employee (black or white).

It sucks when the sports shows have a black guy on there speaking "jive". The black guy then appears to be a token on the set.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#38 May 17, 2009
Are these people serious? A language? Please, go back to the end of the line. It is the talk of a very uneducated individual, one who has no social skills at all. It is jiberish, plain and simple, or..........is it just for simple people, in fact, where do people even come up with a name for such as this, it's most certainly not any type of talk an educated people speak. A language? NO! And they graduate people who talk like this? Is it any wonder our schools are becoming a laughing stock, talk about dumbing down!

Since: Feb 08

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#39 May 17, 2009
jake65 wrote:
Persons using Ebonics jeopardize their future. Where they can get jobs will be limited. Valued jobs require proper diction. Why a school system would promote a class on Ebonics is a disservice to the student.
It's a disservice to the human race.
Harvey

Granite City, IL

#40 Jul 20, 2009
Naw, shiii... Weez goin de uppiddy flas gotz de hampin mash de tip. Shiiii....Why, why, why, all de rampin n ragin gangsta styl bull mo fo go no fo de mo fo sto. Ho de do ho de do. Weez kinde mimba. When de vump mook jiy ta wwc sol la yi ti do. I'z haz a dokeret im filosofee, an i know de know.

“Ewwwwww.”

Since: Jul 09

Dallas Texas

#41 Jul 20, 2009
Nope. It's slave talk. Cool with me though. Dem be fly up in da hood, nah I mean? They hold themselves back with that slave jibberish.
Yo Quiero Taco Hell

Saratoga Springs, NY

#42 Jul 25, 2009
WhiteTaxpayer wrote:
Nope. It's slave talk. Cool with me though. Dem be fly up in da hood, nah I mean? They hold themselves back with that slave jibberish.
Excellent point.Because of this screen name,imagine some dumb asses on TOPIX.COM forum about Mexicans acting like whites,thought I was Latino.I'm not.I can speak/write Spanish because I paid attention in HS language class. Another chance to practice with Latino-American friends during US Army service.I must have missed out on this Ebonics language.Sounds more like slang talk!
Maybe, Rosetta Stone has a new language DVD-ROM? You need to check this video-NOT Ebonics but funny
SPEARCHUCKER EL MAYATE

Temple, TX

#43 Jul 26, 2009
since you axed me HELL UCKING NO!!!!!!!!!!NO NOW NOT EVER THE SHAME OF BLACK AMERICANS

“NativeJax”

Since: Jul 09

Jacksonville, FL

#44 Jul 26, 2009
FlappittyYappity wrote:
Ebonics is a term invented by the Oakland, Ca. school board in an attempt to qualify black teachers as being bilingual.
When this Ebonics thing started, starting pay for a teacher in Ca. was $24,000/year. Bilingual teachers got an extra $5000/yr. Angry at seeing teachers who were bilingual - mostly English/Spanish - getting more than black teachers, the Oakland school board insisted that was used to be known as "jive" was, in fact, an actual second language.
It didn't work, of course, and cries of "racism!" naturally followed the decision that Ebonics was not a genuine language. One black teacher from Oakland finally gave an honest summation to the whole idea behind Ebonics:
"These Messicans is makin' alla this money, why shouldn't we?"
hilarious......

Since: Aug 08

Cleveland, OH

#45 Jul 27, 2009
No, it's not a language. It's too hard to understand.

kidritalin

“Conformity Sucks”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#46 Sep 20, 2009
Harvey wrote:
Naw, shiii... Weez goin de uppiddy flas gotz de hampin mash de tip. Shiiii....Why, why, why, all de rampin n ragin gangsta styl bull mo fo go no fo de mo fo sto. Ho de do ho de do. Weez kinde mimba. When de vump mook jiy ta wwc sol la yi ti do. I'z haz a dokeret im filosofee, an i know de know.
Translation please ?

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#47 Sep 20, 2009
kidritalin wrote:
<quoted text>Translation please ?
There is none, heck, they can't even understand themselves!

Since: Feb 08

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#48 Sep 20, 2009
rio grande valley redneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Ebonics is a linguistic term that has been around for decades. It's not true that AAVE is the official term. It's not official. But linguists who research language development and structure termed it Ebonics decades ago. The structure of west African languages [the conjugation of the verb "to be" in particular along with many other linguistic elements] combined with structures and vocabulary of English are at the root of its synthesis.
Personally, I believe it's all a figment of someone's fertile imagination!
Steph

Kailua Kona, HI

#49 Apr 9, 2010
Erica wrote:
<quoted text>Ebonics makes people sound ignorant. I guess it is a language of sorts..but not one of intelligence.
I could say the same thing about people from the south.

Since: Feb 08

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#50 Apr 9, 2010
Steph wrote:
<quoted text>
I could say the same thing about people from the south.
Now that's funny, I've been saying that about those poor people that live in calif, for years.

Since: Feb 08

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#51 Apr 9, 2010
Steph wrote:
<quoted text>
I could say the same thing about people from the south.
I mean, WHO, in his/her right mind, lives in california?? That's where that scuzz pelosi is from too, isn't it? Wow, what a state. And as for the South?.........it sure beats that hunk of real estate that's SOUTH of Washington!

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