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Since: Sep 12

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#9064 Nov 1, 2013
"Though they exist, you will find very few highly educated conspiracy theorists, especially highly educated conspiracy theorists who have spent substantial time in leadership."
___sayeth the disinformation sock-puppet

LOL.

My god. You must have received a raise.

First it's our collective "mental health", now, our intelligence.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#9065 Nov 1, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
"Though they exist, you will find very few highly educated conspiracy theorists, especially highly educated conspiracy theorists who have spent substantial time in leadership."
___sayeth the disinformation sock-puppet
LOL.
My god. You must have received a raise.
First it's our collective "mental health", now, our intelligence.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
I never even read his crap. Total waste of time.

Since: Dec 09

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#9068 Nov 2, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
I never even read his crap. Total waste of time.
If it was a waste of time, why bother to leave a comment?
Welcome

Donora, PA

#9069 Nov 2, 2013
youtube.com/watch... …………… I aint Willing
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#9070 Nov 3, 2013
Hektor Seven wrote:
<quoted text>
If it was a waste of time, why bother to leave a comment?
Anyone else hear something?
Mru486

San Jose, CA

#9071 Nov 3, 2013
Run geysers, I can't figure out what you guys are bickering over. If you really want to read something incomprehensible foia yourself to the CIA. Secret service and thecia both responded to my foia request and both refused for whatever reason. The secret service letter was written in English. I still didn't know what they were talking about. I think pdw must work for the CIA because the letter was written in his/her gibberish.
ptw

Homestead, FL

#9072 Nov 6, 2013
USA Today, Gannett News Organization, Topix forum.

My posts focus on the obvious: Organized Scheming Corruption (civil servant felony criminal behavior) behind which all of enforcement now seem to operate. So tell me, why have logins to Topix been met with an inundation from unsolicited (and according to outside evaluations) false/positive malware and / or spyware?

With all the proven, name brand, respectful software that has earned a good reputation over years/decades, why would Topix rather think to target "enriched site experiences", with weeks old and apparent false/positive malware that hijacks browsers? Or the unsolicited downloading of sudden, "must have" utilities, that if related, are fraudulently using the "microsoft certified" logo for malicious intent?

What is it about posts that cause a backing up to the previous page (deletions of others)? Why again are posts encountering between 10 and 12 minutes before being fully implemented? Why the deletion of posts as in the past (that only identify corruption, crimes and violations)?

What is the problem?

Since: Sep 12

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#9073 Nov 6, 2013
MORE NSA WHISTLEBLOWERS COMING FORWARD
___"The Worst Is Yet To Come"

ABC News

Several more current and former National Security Agency insiders, inspired by American fugitive Edward Snowden, have come forward as whistleblowers with details of the shadowy agency’s operations, according to an attorney at a whistleblower protection organization.“I think the government hopes to chill speech by employees in the national security and intelligence fields, especially those at the NSA and CIA, but the unintended consequence is [that] more and more whistleblowers are coming through the doors of the Government Accountability Project (GAP),” said Jesselyn Radack, referring to the organization where she works as the National Security and Human Rights Director.“I think courage is contagious, and we see more and more people from the NSA coming through our door after Snowden made these revelations.”

http://abcnews.go . com/blogs/headline s/2013/10/more-nsa -leakers-followed- snowdens-footsteps -whistleblower-law yer-says/

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Mru486

San Francisco, CA

#9075 Nov 6, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
MORE NSA WHISTLEBLOWERS COMING FORWARD
___"The Worst Is Yet To Come"
ABC News
Several more current and former National Security Agency insiders, inspired by American fugitive Edward Snowden, have come forward as whistleblowers with details of the shadowy agency’s operations, according to an attorney at a whistleblower protection organization.“I think the government hopes to chill speech by employees in the national security and intelligence fields, especially those at the NSA and CIA, but the unintended consequence is [that] more and more whistleblowers are coming through the doors of the Government Accountability Project (GAP),” said Jesselyn Radack, referring to the organization where she works as the National Security and Human Rights Director.“I think courage is contagious, and we see more and more people from the NSA coming through our door after Snowden made these revelations.”
http://abcnews.go . com/blogs/headline s/2013/10/more-nsa -leakers-followed- snowdens-footsteps -whistleblower-law yer-says/
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This is too good to be true. It also probably doesn't have much to do with organized stalking in most cases. Called the attorney generals office this morning and the minute I told the truth about who is stalking me the guy hung up on me.
ASPIH

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#9076 Nov 7, 2013
Family of Secrets

“Gore Vidal called Baker’s book about the Bush Dynasty and America’s invisible government one of the most important books of the past ten years. In Family of Secrets Baker asks the obvious, but unanswered question, how can “such a clan occupy the presidency or vice presidency of the US for 20 of the past 28 years” with yet another Bush, Jeb Bush waiting in the wings. Family of Secrets reads and was conceived as a detective story, based on more than 500 interviews and thousands of documents, backed up by more than a 1000 footnotes. And even though the book uncovers a secret political life for all Bushes it is much more than a family expose. In this interview Russ Baker describes the powers behind the scenes, with examples from the CIA, oil and banking, and how these institutions are created by, and make use of people like the Bush family.”

http://www.tucradio.org/2013_FamilySecretsONE...

More at: FightGangStalking.com
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#9077 Nov 7, 2013
ASPIH wrote:
Family of Secrets
“Gore Vidal called Baker’s book about the Bush Dynasty and America’s invisible government one of the most important books of the past ten years. In Family of Secrets Baker asks the obvious, but unanswered question, how can “such a clan occupy the presidency or vice presidency of the US for 20 of the past 28 years” with yet another Bush, Jeb Bush waiting in the wings. Family of Secrets reads and was conceived as a detective story, based on more than 500 interviews and thousands of documents, backed up by more than a 1000 footnotes. And even though the book uncovers a secret political life for all Bushes it is much more than a family expose. In this interview Russ Baker describes the powers behind the scenes, with examples from the CIA, oil and banking, and how these institutions are created by, and make use of people like the Bush family.”
http://www.tucradio.org/2013_FamilySecretsONE...
More at: FightGangStalking.com
It's BOOOOOOOOOSH'S fault!!!!
I'm so tired of hearing this shit. If it's all on Bush,why is it still happening?
If it's all on Bush,why is it happening around the world?

This isnt about any one president. It's about control of the population.
First you have Bush and the Patriot act and Homeland security.
Then along comes obama who buys massive amounts of ammo and weapons for Homeland security. Then obama implements obama care knowing full well it will be a disaster....all for control.
obama care is the biggest threat to TI's ever,and you want to blame it all on bush??? Not to mention the abuse of power using the IRS. The massive increase in domestic spying....all on obama.
You give control of your health care to the very people who are attacking you??
Pull your head out of your ass!!
IT'S BOTH PARTIES!!! All they are doing is taking turns implementing the plan so each side can blame the other.

Party affiliation has no place in Organized stalking.

Since: Jun 13

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#9079 Nov 7, 2013
from another forum...
RunGsersRun wrote:
I'm kind of hesitant to suggest this but what the hell.
We all see that there seems to be no rhyme or reason to who gets targeted. Could it be we are resistant to whatever form of control they are using against the rest of the population and we are a threat because of it?
The reason I say this is the absolute secrecy they seem to enjoy. How is it possible that they could include so many people in this crap,and yet the word never gets out?? How can they get family and friends to go along with this crap and no one talks??
It truly seems they can control people.
This is just idle speculation for conversation.
The way people maintain secrecy in the real world is by security clearances. Google "surveillance role player" jobs and you will see that the requirements are training in counterintelligence and an active security clearance. The perps have two incentives to not reveal what they are doing:(1) they like making money from the federal government's pig trough and (2) they don't want to get prosecuted.
ASPIH

France

#9081 Nov 7, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
It's BOOOOOOOOOSH'S fault!!!!
I'm so tired of hearing this shit. If it's all on Bush,why is it still happening?
Pull your head out of your ass!!
IT'S BOTH PARTIES!!! All they are doing is taking turns implementing the plan so each side can blame the other.
Party affiliation has no place in Organized stalking.
__________
Geeez. CALM down.
Point taken and agreed upon.

Here's a quote by Chris Hedges:

"Our shift to corporate totalitarianism, like the shift to all forms of totalitarianism, is incremental. Barack Obama cannot defy corporate power any more than George W. Bush or Bill Clinton could. Because Clinton and Obama, and their Democratic Party, understand the destructive roles they played and are playing, they must be seen as far more cynical and far more complicit in the ruination of the country."

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/19658-our-i...

***But, he did start it.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#9082 Nov 7, 2013
FightGangStalking wrote:
from another forum...
<quoted text>
The way people maintain secrecy in the real world is by security clearances. Google "surveillance role player" jobs and you will see that the requirements are training in counterintelligence and an active security clearance. The perps have two incentives to not reveal what they are doing:(1) they like making money from the federal government's pig trough and (2) they don't want to get prosecuted.
I'm not talking about the people who do the actual stalking.
I'm referring to friends,family and all the others they convince to do this.
You would think after all these years people would talk.
They would have to have one hell of a damage control plan to keep that many people quiet.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#9084 Nov 7, 2013
ASPIH wrote:
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
It's BOOOOOOOOOSH'S fault!!!!
I'm so tired of hearing this shit. If it's all on Bush,why is it still happening?
Pull your head out of your ass!!
IT'S BOTH PARTIES!!! All they are doing is taking turns implementing the plan so each side can blame the other.
Party affiliation has no place in Organized stalking.
__________
Geeez. CALM down.
Point taken and agreed upon.
Here's a quote by Chris Hedges:
"Our shift to corporate totalitarianism, like the shift to all forms of totalitarianism, is incremental. Barack Obama cannot defy corporate power any more than George W. Bush or Bill Clinton could. Because Clinton and Obama, and their Democratic Party, understand the destructive roles they played and are playing, they must be seen as far more cynical and far more complicit in the ruination of the country."
http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/19658-our-i...
***But, he did start it.
This has been building for decades.
We needed a disaster big enough to to justify the PA and HLS.
Along comes 9/11(and knowing what I know now I'm not sure that was an accident)and here we are.
The thing that makes this whole war on terror BS is the porous nature of our borders. Wouldnt that be he first thing you would do? Seal our borders?
Instead both parties have had an open door policy for illegals and granting amnesty on a regular basis.
Why do you need a huge influx of underclass citizens? They are easy to control with gov assistance and compared to mexico this is paradise so they're fine with it.
On top of that they dilute the patriot nature Americans generally have. They dont care about our Constitution. All they care about is the jobs and benefits they receive with no idea how these freedoms were won.
The funny thing is...? These people are the hippies from the sixties who were supposed to be against "The Man"
Turns out they're worse then the original a-holes....

Since: Jun 13

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#9085 Nov 7, 2013
from another forum...
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats the obvious answer. But when you think about how many people you would have to silence it's mind boggling.
There have been hundreds in my case alone over the years.
There is no mystery to it. Perps get money and power by participating as Big Brother's brown-nosers. As for how the feds get the useful idiots to cooperate, that has already been studied scientifically:

http://fightgangstalking.com/what-is-gang-sta...

Since: Jun 13

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#9086 Nov 8, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not talking about the people who do the actual stalking.
I'm referring to friends,family and all the others they convince to do this.
You would think after all these years people would talk.
They would have to have one hell of a damage control plan to keep that many people quiet.
When the feds recruit useful idiots to participate, here is what they DON'T tell them: "I'm a federal contractor with a secret clearance working as a surveillance role player on a counterintelligence operation commonly known as gang stalking. We want you to assist us with psychologically terrorizing this person as part of a secret illegal unconstitutional operation involving tactics such as those used by the original FBI Cointelpro operations and the CIA's MK Ultra program and the communist Stasi."

Instead, they can just flash a badge and tell them there is an "investigation" and they want them to assist (as good citizens)- and to not say anything - and that if they DO say anything, they could potentially be charged with interfering with a federal investigation.

It's interesting that you are so skeptical ("They would have to have one hell of a damage control plan to keep that many people quiet.").

You were much less skeptical when someone in this forum kept floating the theory that gang stalking was the work of Freemasons.

Normally when a person spends a lot of time in a gang stalking forum and makes skeptical comments it means he is a perp. You're not a perp by any chance are you?:)
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#9088 Nov 8, 2013
FightGangStalking wrote:
from another forum...
<quoted text>
There is no mystery to it. Perps get money and power by participating as Big Brother's brown-nosers. As for how the feds get the useful idiots to cooperate, that has already been studied scientifically:
http://fightgangstalking.com/what-is-gang-sta...
I have seen all the evidence these last fourteen years. So you're not telling me anything I dont already know.
It still amazes me that with all the contact they have with the general public that someone hasn't put two and two together.
And what about the disgruntled stalker? Or the one who finds out he has a conscience?(hard to believe,I know)
You would think the shear numbers would eventually turn out some info. Especially now with all the domestic spying and the general distrust in government these days.
Edna

Palo Alto, CA

#9089 Nov 8, 2013
Hektor Seven wrote:
Are there now or have there ever been any organized 'gangs' stalking people; targeting individuals?
Who are these gangs, and what is their purpose?
Please attribute your source of: any official record, publication or broadcast, name of any official in government or business, any organization or corporation, any witness, any record of accident or other event published, and any published account of any person involved with or affected by this!
Let's read what you have to say!
The NSA, the secret service, 1 million other evil people who remain nameless.
Edna

Palo Alto, CA

#9090 Nov 8, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
I have seen all the evidence these last fourteen years. So you're not telling me anything I dont already know.
It still amazes me that with all the contact they have with the general public that someone hasn't put two and two together.
And what about the disgruntled stalker? Or the one who finds out he has a conscience?(hard to believe,I know)
You would think the shear numbers would eventually turn out some info. Especially now with all the domestic spying and the general distrust in government these days.
Most of my stalkers are from 3d world countries. They don't care about laws and they will follow authority. Obviously they enjoy sadistic behaviors. They are in a foreign country so probably think gang stalking is a natural American behavior.

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