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RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#8996 Oct 15, 2013
Mike wrote:
It is 100% government owned and operated. It's all about political control.
I've flown on business in the US to many cities and it's the same everywhere. Same caravans, same hand signals, sames colors, etc. A lot of money being spent and a high degree of organization. This is not about life insurance or criminals. It's about COINTELPRO tactics being used to crush legitimate dissent and to create a police state(of course other perceived enemies and practice targets are thrown in too).
Here's my website.
http://homelandstalk.com/
I've thought about that angle as well.
It would certainly fit with Patriot Act and Homeland Security.
Not to mention all the ammo and weapons they've purchased.
And of course now the gov will have ultimate control of your life with obama care.
Add the fact that the gov doesnt seem to care how big of a deficit they rack up because they know the shit is about to hit the fan....your theory is entirely possible.

RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#8997 Oct 15, 2013
Mike wrote:
It is 100% government owned and operated. It's all about political control.
I've flown on business in the US to many cities and it's the same everywhere. Same caravans, same hand signals, sames colors, etc. A lot of money being spent and a high degree of organization. This is not about life insurance or criminals. It's about COINTELPRO tactics being used to crush legitimate dissent and to create a police state(of course other perceived enemies and practice targets are thrown in too).
Here's my website.
http://homelandstalk.com/
Checked out your website..
Very compelling stuff!! It most definitely dovetails with my experience(14 years)
I'm a Constitutionalist with a slight Libertarian lean and I do like my guns. Not in an unhealthy way mind you,just a Constitutional way. LOL
Tried to register on your site but no joy. They do mess with my email on occasion...
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#8998 Oct 15, 2013
Mike wrote:
It is 100% government owned and operated. It's all about political control.
I've flown on business in the US to many cities and it's the same everywhere. Same caravans, same hand signals, sames colors, etc. A lot of money being spent and a high degree of organization. This is not about life insurance or criminals. It's about COINTELPRO tactics being used to crush legitimate dissent and to create a police state(of course other perceived enemies and practice targets are thrown in too).
Here's my website.
http://homelandstalk.com/
How do you explain the world wide use of stalking?
It kinda goes with the whole new world order thing.

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#8999 Oct 16, 2013
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FightGangStalkin g

Pasadena, CA

#9000 Oct 17, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you explain the world wide use of stalking?
It kinda goes with the whole new world order thing.
No it doesn't. Gang stalking is a set of counterintelligence tactics. The reason they're used in multiple countries is because they work. It's the same reason that certain military tactics are used all over the world.

It doesn't suggest anything about a one-world international government. Communist East Germany was an enemy of the U.S, but they used the same tactics to control their citizens.

Gang stalking serves the purposes of counterintelligence agencies like the FBI - who have been using the tactics for decades to suppress political dissent. They used it against the civil rights movement and against the anti-Vietnam war movement, and now they use it against the Occupy Wall Street movement, etc.

The "New World Order" claim is a B.S. theory which counterintelligence perp's (like the disinformation sock-puppet trolls in these forums) use - just like the "Freemasons" claim - to distract from the fact that gang stalking is the work of the feds - and is largely outsourced to brown-nosed greedy intelligence firm contractors with security clearances.

Those people participate for selfish reasons - not for a global agenda. They want to feed at the federal gov't pig trough. They make some easy money, and they get the added benefit of the thrill of belonging to a secret brotherhood of brown-nosed piglets that don't have to follow the Constitution (a document which they don't believe in).

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#9001 Oct 18, 2013
FightGangStalking wrote:
<quoted text>
No it doesn't. Gang stalking is a set of counterintelligence tactics. The reason they're used in multiple countries is because they work. It's the same reason that certain military tactics are used all over the world.
It doesn't suggest anything about a one-world international government. Communist East Germany was an enemy of the U.S, but they used the same tactics to control their citizens.
Gang stalking serves the purposes of counterintelligence agencies like the FBI - who have been using the tactics for decades to suppress political dissent. They used it against the civil rights movement and against the anti-Vietnam war movement, and now they use it against the Occupy Wall Street movement, etc.
The "New World Order" claim is a B.S. theory which counterintelligence perp's (like the disinformation sock-puppet trolls in these forums) use - just like the "Freemasons" claim - to distract from the fact that gang stalking is the work of the feds - and is largely outsourced to brown-nosed greedy intelligence firm contractors with security clearances.
Those people participate for selfish reasons - not for a global agenda. They want to feed at the federal gov't pig trough. They make some easy money, and they get the added benefit of the thrill of belonging to a secret brotherhood of brown-nosed piglets that don't have to follow the Constitution (a document which they don't believe in).
And, assh*le-self-righteous-holier- than-thou-I'm-a-little-secret- agent-citizen-spy "neighbors".

***"piglets". That's funny....but they're just too cute.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#9002 Oct 18, 2013
FightGangStalking wrote:
<quoted text>
No it doesn't. Gang stalking is a set of counterintelligence tactics. The reason they're used in multiple countries is because they work. It's the same reason that certain military tactics are used all over the world.
It doesn't suggest anything about a one-world international government. Communist East Germany was an enemy of the U.S, but they used the same tactics to control their citizens.
Gang stalking serves the purposes of counterintelligence agencies like the FBI - who have been using the tactics for decades to suppress political dissent. They used it against the civil rights movement and against the anti-Vietnam war movement, and now they use it against the Occupy Wall Street movement, etc.
The "New World Order" claim is a B.S. theory which counterintelligence perp's (like the disinformation sock-puppet trolls in these forums) use - just like the "Freemasons" claim - to distract from the fact that gang stalking is the work of the feds - and is largely outsourced to brown-nosed greedy intelligence firm contractors with security clearances.
Those people participate for selfish reasons - not for a global agenda. They want to feed at the federal gov't pig trough. They make some easy money, and they get the added benefit of the thrill of belonging to a secret brotherhood of brown-nosed piglets that don't have to follow the Constitution (a document which they don't believe in).
I can buy that.
I look at it like this. We know the gov is in on it due to the money and resources involved.
Does it really matter who's actually doing the stalking?
All we need to know is the gov is responsible.

There is no way they can claim ignorance when you consider these days of hyper surveillance.
In fact it makes it more likely it's gov putting to use all that illegally obtained info.
ptw

Homestead, FL

#9003 Oct 19, 2013
FightGangStalking wrote:
<quoted text>
Just to clarify my point in raising the question about the "demons" references...
I think it's perfectly obvious that all the numerous gang stalking websites and forum comments which include mentions of "demons" (or UFOs or Bigfoot or whatever) are deliberate disinformation being posted by intelligence contractors who are participating in a federal government counterintelligence program. The goal is to make the whole community of targeted individuals appear crazy.
By raising the question I was trying to get Eleanor White to clarify where she stands on that issue, because it's helpful to know which side people are on.
I agree with you that individuals targeted for gang stalking need practical solutions to the very real harassment they face, but my view is the only solution is to expose the exact nature of gang stalking - namely, that it is a federal gov't counterintelligence program just like the original FBI Cointelpro was - with elements of the values and practices and goals also of the CIA's Program MK Ultra and Communist East Germany's Stasi.
In other words the "localized crimes" you refer to are actually part of a NATIONAL crime by the federal gov't and the only way to stop it is by exposing it to the public.
FightGangStalking.com
I agree. And the demon ref goes back to it's originator as well. It seems to me that if someone is not focusing on the real problem (local, county, state, federal) gov corruption, violations etc.,(maybe because their afraid of getting kicked out of a country), then they ought to come clean and say that, vs. dodging the issue and downplaying or disassociating these crimes!!

As far as I'm concerned, one can't get enough reinforcement on OS sites, towards referencing originating (and adapted) Stasi and existing govt counter-intell abuses/crimes/violations taking place today (recent news of NSA grabbing 250mil email contact lists per month).

Point being, this civil servant corruption/crimes/violations (military to local, county, state and federal govt positions, offices, departments. enforcement etc. required hiring and transference of abuses/misconduct), needs to be broken down and understood at the "local level" for victims (putting together Searches and publications as ref'd on this site).

The general public should know all about this "database corruption" and how its being formulated to permeate everyone's life through nothing but illegal, unwarranted sleazy violations, malicious tracking and targeting !! Every citizen; all Americans are victims to this ongoing covert corruption taking place behind their backs; they just haven't recognized or discovered the sicko violating and screwing them over for the sport of it, yet !!
anonymous

Nutley, NJ

#9005 Oct 20, 2013
yes this is true and factual. I am a targeted individual, someone who has been blacklisted and is being gang stalked every time I go out. surveillance in the home and out and being used as a research experiment of these directed energy weapons used by the military and cops that have lasers, radio frequency scanners, satellite, computer software programs, hacking, wiretapping of phones, mind control is the worst and I am try ing o defend my civil rights and human rights from this torture I am being made to feel. they want to own me and use me like a robot to do with as salve with whatever they want they make my parents mind controlled at times and cause very extreme heated arguments where as they want to cause you a heartattack aneurysm, when you are arguing against a family member who is not believeing you and saying oh what rights do you have where is your proof, as if the cops are allowed to threaten me and my family! u have plate numbers from gang stalkers in Suffolk county NY. gal, far, gbz, geu.,are some of the main ones for the past year. sleep deprivation mixed with induced dreams of bizarreness. no one is mentally imagining this! I amnot paranoid or delusional and this a brainwashing game to them to getyou so stressed out they hope you will check yourself in somewhere. or go to jail fro defending yourself and acting out of anger. either way its all abuse against me and unhealthy for me to subject myself when I go out, yet my parents don't want to see me become a recluse, staying in a lot, but they don't get it, and its ok. we are all human, and I have to keep my core beliefs and stick to what I feel is right and I just cant be a victim in any way any more. I was raped and assaulted years ago and I bow down to no one, the cops are not god they cannot continue to abuse their authority, nor can the military or government, responsible for mind control, gang stalking me, etc. I live in America and im not in a communist country, and neither is my family. I was born by God not them, they don't own me im not for sale, they cant do what they want to me even though they are and getting away with this but hopefully not for long. even if I have to see a judge and sue the fbi cia precinct, or see the president, dod secretary, officials. they cant make me their puppet, their doll, their project like a mental patient, like a dummy doll , a dog actually a dog doesn't get zapped and tortured.
The gangs are different groups of people, health nurses, Italian mob, 20 year old students doing research with computer savyskills, all in it for MONEY. they think they are doing a service but they are only doing abuse. there purpose is money to harass you and try to make you look crazy, or discredit you when in public, and get you stressed enough that you getsick enough to go into a doctor or hospital! or jail.
Hektor Seven wrote:
Are there now or have there ever been any organized 'gangs' stalking people; targeting individuals?
Who are these gangs, and what is their purpose?
Please attribute your source of: any official record, publication or broadcast, name of any official in government or business, any organization or corporation, any witness, any record of accident or other event published, and any published account of any person involved with or affected by this!
Let's read what you have to say!

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#9006 Oct 21, 2013
[QUOTE who="anonymous] I have to keep my core beliefs and stick to what I feel is right and I just cant be a victim in any way any more.....and I bow down to no one[/QUOTE]

An excellent outlook.

NO TI should "bow down" to ANYONE. In fact, the tactic should be to make the whole "process" and "system" as difficult for the criminals as possible. This includes assh*le neighbors and anyone else just "going along for the ride".

It's necessary to make them all realize just what they've chosen to be involved in.......criminal activities.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#9007 Oct 21, 2013
In response to today's news in Nevada:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...

Attorney General Eric Holder states that "deadly shootings" are becoming epidemic.

In response, the DOJ will be training 50,000 police officers in tactics dealing with these "deadly shootings" around the country.

Another excuse to step-up the police state in Amerika.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#9009 Oct 22, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
In response to today's news in Nevada:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...
Attorney General Eric Holder states that "deadly shootings" are becoming epidemic.
In response, the DOJ will be training 50,000 police officers in tactics dealing with these "deadly shootings" around the country.
Another excuse to step-up the police state in Amerika.
If certain segments of our society would stop killing each other,our murder rates would be among the lowest in first world countries.
But of course it's not politically correct to say that.
That and of course the fact that you need bad guys in order to justify adding all these cops....for our protection of course.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#9010 Oct 22, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
If certain segments of our society would stop killing each other,our murder rates would be among the lowest in first world countries.
But of course it's not politically correct to say that.
That and of course the fact that you need bad guys in order to justify adding all these cops....for our protection of course.
That may be true, however the article posted was regarding another school shooting. I don't think it has anything to do with heritage or ethnicity but bullying....once again.

The reaction by Eric Holder is something that anyone following the trend of police-state issues would already have seen coming.
Mru486

San Jose, CA

#9011 Oct 22, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
In response to today's news in Nevada:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...
Attorney General Eric Holder states that "deadly shootings" are becoming epidemic.
In response, the DOJ will be training 50,000 police officers in tactics dealing with these "deadly shootings" around the country.
Another excuse to step-up the police state in Amerika.
I just received an answer to a foia query to the FBI about myself. Turns out there's a section to the code saying that they don't have to disclose information about law enforcement investigations. It's written into the code, title 5 sect. 552 and 552a. boots on the ground gone wild. At least the FBI answered and openly tells you how [email protected] the lawmakers are. The NSA and homeland security didn't answer at all. I do agree that the shootings are out of control but I tend to think that police harassment is the reason for much of it already.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#9012 Oct 22, 2013
Mru486

San Jose, CA

#9013 Oct 22, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
I didn't read the links and have read some of that before on westhues site, but thanks for putting this together. Westhues, like everyone else, doesn't want to talk about gang stalking. Interesting that he lives in ontario where so many targets seem to live.

The media is a gang stalking group themselves so they will never report on this. I just heard a radio show talking about how Jeff bezos bought the washington post because he wants to keep real journalism alive. Others are starting to work on this as well. I think the show was on NPR.
Waste Not Want Not

United States

#9014 Oct 23, 2013
Dear, god wanna be gangstalkers and mind control freaks! Did you ever noticed the peacefulness in my demeanor, and the smile on my face everytime you let your amateur acting poodles and "try-hard" fraudulent telepathic hound dogs stalk, harass, bully, and play god with my life, because you know I'm not in any position to fight back? Do you know why I'm filled with joy and satisfaction no matter how it makes you so smug, justified, and arrogant to mind control me, electronically harass me, exploit me, rape my basic human rights, take away my privacy and civil liberties, isolate me from family and friends, discriminate me, constantly set me up, persecute me, put me down, and humiliate me day after day for seventeen long years for no reason whatsoever,(other than you're just a bunch of cowardly  psychopath lunatics high on your god wannabe power trip delusional program). And, have you ever stop to think why you tried just about everything for seventeen years and nothing ever worked for you. Or, have you even realized how I BLED YOU DRY for all the time, money, and energy you wasted on me over the years, but still I remain UNBREAKABLE, and even STRONGER than ever. Well, let me fill you in on a little secret. You see, my elite psychopath friends, at any given moment, when your time is up,(because NOBODY LIVES FOREVER). You will inescapably end up in a very special kind of hell with your names already engraved in it as we speak. In your own private little hell, prepared for you by God, maker and creator of the universe, you will be reincarnated as pigs, cows, or chickens: caged, beaten, and starved only to be slaughtered for human consumption for eternity. You will relive this vicious cycle over, and over, and over, and over again, The movie "FOOD INC," will give you a special glimpse of your most wonderful and glorious fate that awaits you in the hereafter. So the next time you see me smile at your smugly criminally insane cowardly faces, you will know exactly why. So congratulations! You have actually read my mind. So please what ever you do, have a great and wonderful time at "FOSTER FARMS FOREVER FOR CONTROL FREAK LUNATICS". The hell you created for me today is a nonillion times so much better than your own future and inescapable private paradise. I'M SO HAPPY AND GRATEFUL I'M NOT YOU TODAY! Instead, I only pity you and wholeheartedly forgive all of you elite frauds and zombified gangstalkers alike. LUKE 13:28 and Matthew 8:12. IT IS NOW WRITTEN SO SHALL IT BE. AMEN.
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#9015 Oct 23, 2013
A Special Place In Hell wrote:
<quoted text>
That may be true, however the article posted was regarding another school shooting. I don't think it has anything to do with heritage or ethnicity but bullying....once again.
The reaction by Eric Holder is something that anyone following the trend of police-state issues would already have seen coming.
Those types of killings are few and far between and amount to a small fraction of the killings in the U.S.
And I'm not so sure some of them aren't staged with the intent to disarm America.
I put nothing past my government anymore.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#9016 Oct 23, 2013
RunGsersRun wrote:
<quoted text>
Those types of killings are few and far between and amount to a small fraction of the killings in the U.S.
And I'm not so sure some of them aren't staged with the intent to disarm America.
I put nothing past my government anymore.
Another typically schizophrenic distortion!
RunGsersRun

Katy, TX

#9017 Oct 23, 2013
Hektor Seven wrote:
<quoted text>
Another typically schizophrenic distortion!
Man you're like blister on a hookers lip,you just keep coming back.
And you're just as welcome....

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